Sunday, May 24, 2009

Stopping the BNP at Any Cost

Earlier today I encountered this brief notice at the unofficial BNP blog:

BNP Main Website Down

Suspected Denial of Service Attack. Recent attempts originated from Russia.

At that time there was nothing further. A series of updates later in the day reported that the site was back up, then down, then up again but running slowly. The latest word as of this writing is that the site will be down until sometime tomorrow.

Simon Darby, the deputy leader of the BNP, posted more about the incident at his blog:

BNP Website Under Attack

The main BNP website is currently down due to a massive Denial of Service Attack. The site was attacked last night, at one point dealing with 28 million hits, but we managed to block out the traffic which was emanating from Eastern Europe and Russia.
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The size of the assault today is unparalleled and there is no doubt that whoever has organised this has had to pay out a serious amount of money to the criminal underworld.

On Friday the servers of Clear Channel, part of a huge conglomerate that provides billboard advertising, suffered a similar attack. Their IT professionals tracked the criminal activity back to a notorious “anti-fascist” organisation openly aligned to the Labour Party and supported by the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats. This organisation was protesting at the decision by Clear Channel to allow the BNP to display advertising in support of our European Election Campaign.

As a consequence of the criminal actions against Clear Channel we understand that their legal team is currently in the process of issuing writs against the perpetrators which as well as civil actions will involve the possibility of potential criminal charges including racketeering.

There’s no doubt that the three major British political parties are pulling out all the stops in an attempt to prevent the BNP from trouncing them in two weeks’ time in the EU elections.

But would Labour, the Tories, or the Lib-Dems go this far? And do they have the resources to pull off this kind of caper?

The latest Sunday Express EU election poll conducted in the constituency of Secretary for Communities Hazel Blears shows the following voter preferences:

BNP 38.4%
Labour 19.2%
Tory 13.4%
Lib Dem 10.7%
Green 7.1%
UKIP 7.1%

So both Labour and the Tories have ample motivation to do something drastic.

Depending on the size and scope of the operation, it can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (or pounds) to launch and maintain a DDOS attack over an extended period of time. What’s being done to the BNP website does not come cheap, so only someone with a compelling interest in damaging the party would attempt it.

Obviously — given its intimate relationship with the pocketbooks of British taxpayers — the Labour party has the wherewithal to resort to these extreme measures.

But would it stoop to something as blatantly criminal as this?

One thing is certain: the Russian criminal networks are not doing this for fun.

Thanks to Gaia for the additional information.


heroyalwhyness said...

BNP attracts more clicks than all other major partiesLeftists know, as Robert Spencer stated here:
"You say things that they don't like, say things that the powers-that-be object to - and they don't debate. They won't discuss. They won't talk about why it is that they believe that you're wrong and they're right. They won't go over first principals. . .because they know, leftists know, everywhere that they cannot win a fair fight. They cannot win a debate. And so, the only thing that they can do is try to silence those with whom they disagree."

laine said...

Such cyber attacks against anyone who displeases them are child's play for Russia which crashed and entire country's system (albeit a small one) some months ago. Because Estonia is one of the most wired countries in the world, including voting on line, banking etc., this was a serious assault, studied by NATO and American experts to glean tips on how to defend against future cyber warfare.

babs said...

I am conflicted about the BNP. This is the ONLY SITE I read that supports it. While I would never condone an attack on their web site or any other portal of speech, I still am not sure what they stand for other than native British rights.
The BNP is called Nazi for their "natives first" point of view. Other than that what I have read about their socialistic policy to nationalize all kinds of industry is scary to me. Others use much more inflamitory rhetoric, drawing on what they claim is an historic perspective to denigrate them.
I really would appreciate it if someone like Fjordman, who I believe can write an honest essay, would give me the low down on the BNP.
It is clearly vilified in so many quarters that it would be helpful to an outside observer if someone would write a sober essay.


So why do you not READ thier manifesto,and make up YOUR own mind?

Simon said...

Lawrence Auster's View from the Right blog has a good deal of intelligent discussion of the BNP from an American perspective.

The BNP has changed radically. The BNP were founded as a neo-Nazi party by John Tyndall. After Nick Griffin took over the party he radically changed its orientation, explicitly rejecting anti-Semitism, such that it now has Jewish members and an elected Jewish councillor. It has also ceased to denigrate blacks-as-blacks (its Euro-election broadcast spoke of the 'loyal desscendants of immigrants from the '50s and '60s'), and is heavily focused on anti-Islamisation.

It is no longer a race-hate party, as far as can be ascertained from its literature and statements. It is not exactly 'white nationalist' in the American sense, it doesn't see 'whiteness' per se as transcendent over local attachments. It is an ethno-nationalist party for the indigenous peoples of the British Isles - English Irish Welsh & Scottish. However my impression is that it has a fairly strongly ethnic-English character. This is because the 'Celtic fringe' nations have tended to define their own identities in antagonism to the dominant English nation.

Much of the hostility to the BNP from the relatively right-wing media & blogosphere relates to its origins as a neo-Nazi party and its current 'post fascist' status.

Hope this helps.

Baron Bodissey said...


First of all, I don't support the BNP. I report on it. I try to give a clear and unbiased picture of it.

Most of my British contacts are going to vote for the BNP, even the ones who don't really like the party, because it is the only party in Britain that stands up for native British values, and against Multiculturalism and Islam. I can sympathize with their position, and I might well do the same if I were British.

The main objection I have to the BNP is its statism -- it draws voters away from Labour by supporting an anti-immigrant version of socialism. I much prefer the more libertarian and free-market policies of Vlaams Belang.

But for right now, there is nothing similar in the UK. The BNP is the only alternative to cultural suicide, so people who want to save British culture are voting BNP.

Required said...

Look, Baron, I support you and Pam & Spencer to the hilt against the Joihnson Nonsense, but trust me on this: steer clear of the BNP. They actually are a racist neo-nazi organization. They are also the worst kind of muck-feeding bottom dwellers who are of no use whatsoever in this fight.

There's a good documentary on them, done by Dispatches, the same group that did Undercover Mosque.

Fjordman said...

Cimourdain: I have never posted any direct support of the BNP, and there is a reason why I haven't done that. But they are growing now because the mainstream parties have abandoned the native British people or deliberately stabbed them in the back. If they don't stop doing that, the BNP are going to continue to grow. It's as simple as that.

And it is significant, regardless of what you think of the BNP, that somebody is paying this amount of money to stop them. The Baron is right: This is not done by some random teenager in his garage.

X said...

I don't meant to sound rude when I say this, however the fact that someone reports on a particular thing does not automatically imply support for that thing. GoV reports on the islamic threat day in and day out but that doesn't imply support for it.

the BNP are a growing force in British politics. You can't just try and pretend they don't exist. You can't do like the major parties and say "that's wrong" without offering any alternatives. The BNP are rising because people think they have no other choice - no other party is listening to them. They're all telling the people what to do rather than asking what needs to be done.

If the tories were to stand up and say "withdrawl from the EU and an end to uncontrolled immigration will be at the core of our manifesto" they would form the next government with an insurmountable majority and the BNP would lose nearly all their support. Right now they're just sticking their heads in the sand and ordering the voters to go back to sleep and vote for "nice" parties and as long as they carry on this charade they will continue to boost support for the BNP.

With all that in mind it is impossible - immmoral - to avoid reporting on the BNP. It would be like ignoring Napolean's troops at Waterloo.

ɱØяñιηg$ʇðя ©™ said...

It's interesting to see how threatened the elites feel that they are, that these national parties could bring their multicultural dreams to a halt. I feel it is all connected, Wilders in NL, Dewinter in Belgium, not allowing the Sweden Democrats taking place in the public debate. The elites has unlimited resources and they are obviously using it too. What I fear most is that the leaders for these national parties will be murdered, if they can't stop them in any other way. Most probably it will look like an accident (Haider in Austria) or suicide (that guy in UK a few years ago which name eludes me at the moment).

Required said...

Here's a good article on the subject by Nick Cohen:

Fact is that Griffin was caught with his pants down, saying that his party was about racial purity.

As regards their growth, I consider that the umpteenth malign effect of Islam in our society. Maybe that'll get people to wake up.

In Hoc Signo Vinces† said...

As we are in a democratic election period (European elections) this is a serious attack on democracy, to infringe the communications of a legally constituted political party - questions should be asked in both the British Parliament and the European Parliament, if any security service or quasi financed state affiliate was involved.

Avery Bullard said...

Here's a good article on the subject by Nick CohenAnd with that your credibility is shot. Nick Cohen is a life long enemy of the British people. You whinge about BNP 'nazis' then recommend a Trotskyite like Cohen!

Simon said...

From the Nick Cohen article:

"Not the least of the BNP's problems is that Nick Griffin was caught on camera at a meeting with the former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke explaining how he would seek to con the public by using warm words - freedom, security, identity, democracy.

"Perhaps one day, once by being rather more subtle we've got ourselves in a position where we control the British broadcasting media, the British people might change their mind and say, 'Yes, every last one must go.' But if you offer that as your sole aim to start with, you're gonna get absolutely nowhere. So, instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity.""

I don't know how accurate this tale is, though I know Griffin did speak with Duke, but I would very much like to know what is really going through Griffin's head these days. Is he still a raging anti-Semite like Duke, covering it up with smooth words? If so, why isn't he allying with the Islamists, who are set to give him everything a Jew-hater could want? Griffin says he supports Israel, though it's none of our business. Can you imagine Duke saying he supported Israel?

Homophobic Horse said...

""Perhaps one day, once by being rather more subtle we've got ourselves in a position where we control the British broadcasting media, the British people might change their mind and say, 'Yes, every last one must go.' But if you offer that as your sole aim to start with, you're gonna get absolutely nowhere. So, instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity.""

Yeah.. I wouldn't put that past Griffin at all. Still, primary evidence will be required before I believe the likes of Nick Cohen, a second rate writer par excellence.

Required said...

Look, this sort of thing happens quite a lot with the BNP. They're thugs and racists and riff-raff - and quite a source of Islamic converts, at least in prison anyway.

I believe Nick Cohen. He's one of many lefties who has come to his senses post 9/11.