Friday, December 07, 2007

Our Offensive National Flag

The Fjordman Report

The noted blogger Fjordman is filing this report via Gates of Vienna.
For a complete Fjordman blogography, see The Fjordman Files. There is also a multi-index listing here.

Jeremy Clarkson heads the program “Top Gear” at the BBC, one of the funniest shows on TV. Since it has absolutely nothing to do with politics or religion, only with cars, it is one of the very few programs at the Burka Broadcasting Corporation still worth seeing.

I have to disagree with Clarkson regarding the English national flag, though. Discrediting national flags as signs of “bigotry” is happening all over the Western world.

And no, you are not being robbed of pride in your national heritage because of your colonial history. I’m Norwegian. We don’t have a colonial history, yet we are still subject to similar attacks. They don’t do this because you are English, they do this because you are Westerners and — dare I say? — white. British colonial history is just a convenient excuse.

From the Times Online, “We’ve been robbed of our Englishness”:

Today, things are rather different. Mention the war and you’ll be told by an outreach counsellor that we must empathise with the Germans, who are coming to terms with their mistakes of the past. “And you know, children, it was actually the British who invented concentration camps . . .”

Empire? When I was at school, teachers spoke with pride about how a little island in the north Atlantic turned a quarter of the world pink, but now all teachers talk about is the slave trade and how we must hang our heads in shame.

Right. So we must forgive Germany for invading Poland. But I must beat myself to death every night because my great-great-great-grandad moved some chap from a hellhole in Ghana to Barbados. In fact I can’t even say we’re British any more because then all of Scotland would rush over the border, pour porridge down my trousers and push a thistle up my bottom.

I believe people need to feel like they’re part of a gang, part of a tribe. And I also believe we need to feel pride in our gang. But all we ever hear now is that we in England have nothing to be proud about. In a world of righteousness we are the child molesters and rapists.

Our soldiers were murderers. Our empire builders were thieves. Our class system was ridiculous and our industrial revolution set in motion a chain of events that, eventually, will kill every polar bear in the Arctic.

And it gets so much worse. Because if you say you are a patriot, men with beards and sandals will come round to your house in the night and daub BNP slogans on your front door. This is the only country in the world where the national flag is deemed offensive.
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Then there’s our national character. In the past, boys were told in school assembly that their mothers had died and were expected to get over it in a nice game of rugby. Crying only happened abroad. Not any more. We were ordered to weep like Americans when Diana died, and no local news report is complete today without some fat oik sobbing because his house has fallen over.


Do you see? We can’t be proud of our past because it’s all bad, we can’t use British humour because it’s offensive and we can’t use understatement to deal with a crisis because the army of state-sponsored counsellors say we’ve got to sob uncontrollably at every small thing.


Sodra Djavul said...

Across the pond we have another slow creep of ideological suicide. If you listen to the "counter-jihadists" over at LGF, they claim that America was founded as an "idea." No, no respect for the historical context of forced slave labor or non-existent women's suffrage. Just an "idea."

When your nation is reduced to nothing more than an idea, something so intangible that its qualities could never be recognized in any substantive form amongst its citizenry or immigrant applicants, the ultimate end result is the destruction of the nation itself.

All the while these same people bemoan illegal immigration and the third world invasion of Europe. And yet they can't divorce themselves from the leftist notion that their own national identity an "idea," and we are all cut from the same cloth. We are not.

Any government is a function of its people. Even dictatorships are a function of a weak-willed and malleable civic consciousness. I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would suggest taking the dregs of these failed societies and importing them into their own homes.

- Sodra

Homophobic Horse said...

Yes they emphasise the "idea" because ideas can be installed on peoples brains like computer software.

Which brings me to this second point: "I believe people need to feel like they’re part of a gang, part of a tribe. And I also believe we need to feel pride in our gang. But all we ever hear now is that we in England have nothing to be proud about."

The multi-cultis don't like the idea of you having a loyalty to something they can't control. They don't like you asserting an inalienable quality "I am English" because they can't control it. They don't like anybody elevating themselves above the basically human, because they don't like life and existence.

On psychological self elevation: Similar to the concept of royalty. A royal person is endowed with an inalienable essence that has no recourse to the crowd, this is distinct from presidenthood because a president is elected and has to reference all his actions by the people. And so an exclusive alliegence - a patria - puts you in a position of great responsibility.

Ordinarily human psychology accepts no responsibility; makes no decisions, has no sense of importance, and believes itself justified in its attitudes by some kind of consensus of social agreement. Which is why they prefer the merely human; humanity is cheap and undemanding.

Kafir Canada said...


Kind of like how the multiculturalists will answer "human" to the question "what race are you?" Because they don't accept any differences between people; they want everyone to be functionally the same. They must believe that no one should be allowed to interbreed with any discrimination for phenotype, so that we really do all end up the same race. You already can't legally discriminate on the basis of phenotype for employment, housing, or commercial service or contracts. Marriage would be the next logical step.

Homophobic Horse said...

The BBC reconstruction of the nativity is instructive in your above regard Mr KFC. In the BBC version Joseph is now a black illegal immigrant/asylum seeker with a heavily pregnant white wife facing an immigration crackdown by a minister serving as King Herod.

So the multi-cultis think a racially mixed baby is the representative of the Prince of Peace? It's completely surreal. It just goes to show that multi-cultis are disavowed racists of the most Hitlerian variety. Multiculturalists think all hitherto conflict is race conflict and all wars race wars. If there were no more clearly defined races then peace will prevail according to their ideas.

Unknown said...

Just one.

All I asked for was one:

I never got it.

Wonder why?

~Norsk Troll
Ps. Fjordman: I got your message through the Baron where you intimated that it is beneath you to answer me (or this subject, or both) directly. Got it...

eatyourbeans said...

The BBC Nativity Scene: An astute grand inquisitor of latent racism would find it suspicious. Is "Blessed art thou among all women" in this context entirely innocent? Why should the Mother of God be assumed to be white? Who decided that a woman of colour is a worthy vessel? Who?

idomeneo said...

So getting rid of the concept of race seems to be priority number one with the left since their neo-marxist idea that race, like class is merely a false social construct by the minority elite to oppress the masses, minority elite now being the white heterosexual male no matter what class. i think it is no consequence that whenever you go to a movie these days, or watch tv there is always a interracial couple, not to show that its okay for people of different races to marry but rather that diffferent races MUST marry do get rid of this false construct known as race. My opinion is this, if you hate your own race you are a racist, if you hate the fact that there is different races and yearn for them to disapear visa via procreative racial deconstruction you are a racist, when i go to school and hear my teachers telling me how my race is going to be extinct in a century, and they say this with huge smiles on their faces, i think they are racist. Hitler hated other races and used violent means to see about their distruction, these lefty wackos hate race and now are using propaganda to distroy it, they are cut from the same cloth as hitler in my book.

P.S. i am new to gates of vienna and i would like to say thank you to the authors and creaters of this website it is very informative and entertaining.

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Avenger said...

Look everyone, it doesn't really matter what race you are as long as you're Muslim.

Non-Arab Muslims can be acceptable, as long as they display their devotion to Allah (PBUH) by threatening to behead any teacher who calls a teddy bear by the name of Mohammed (PBUH).

Yes, you're not Arabs. I know that, and accept it. I personally wouldn't marry any of you (although I'd be tolerant enough to accept one of you as a housemaid), but the opportunity is still always open to you to become Muslims.

Why not just accept that one day, Islam and sharia law will rule over all of you and that it's better to accept Islam freely than just say the Shahaada at the point of a sword?

You European Christian types are just SO unreasonable. Next you'll be saying that women who don't cover themselves up completely don't deserve to be raped or have acid thrown in their faces.

Well, I know what kind of retarded logic to expect the next time I have the misfortune to find this site accidentally, 'Baron' and 'Dymphna'.

Homophobic Horse said...

Multi-Cultists are everything they hate.

Ed Mahmoud said...

No reason to be ashamed of the Cross on your flag, or the civilization it brought to Europe, than the World.


Irish immigrant to Houston, father of 5, and, oh yeah, Catholic priest loses battle with cancer, Cardinal DiNardo to celebrate his funeral Mass.

Barb said...

I don't know how non-political Top Gear is. One of the guys was in America driving around and said the only cultural benefit America had given the world was right turn on red. Arrogant wanker. Stop listening to jazz in all its many permutations for starters.

In Russet Shadows said...

I agree that there's not much good jazz out there and probably a much lower ratio of good to bad than in any other genre of music. But on to the main point -- yes, the multiculturists are holding hands with the Muslims in an attempt to set fire to the Western world entire. If they fail, it will only be because we, helmets and swords decked with ideological gore, best them in the realm of ideas and the realm of action.

Ginro said...

Caprice, calm down and go and fluff some cushions.

But honestly, lol, you don't get his sense of humour do you? And compared to some of the things I've heard said about the UK e.g. LGF has a whole host of them in the archives, his comment is pretty mellow stuff.

Lighten up and laugh about it.

ziontruth said...

Sodra Djavul,

It's not that Americans are obstinate, but simply that most of them haven't confronted and internalized the issue of national cohesion. On that note, I venture to say that the first American allies of Europe are those living near the US-Mexico border, experiencing first-hand what happens when national identity is reduced to a mere idea.

One can advocate "embracing diversity" 'til the cows come home, but he might rethink his stance if immigrant cannibals moved into his neighborhood without leaving their original dietary habits. To use an extreme example.

God bless.

Beckett said...

National identitiy is being watered down in the United States just the same as it is in Europe. Multiculturalism is the neo-socialist concept that embraces political correctness at the expense of truth, freedom, and liberty. This concept diminishes the right of host cultures to exist, revises history, and holds minority rights above the rights of the masses. Being white and of European decent is the greatest crime of this coming century. The socialist power structure (through the preverted and distorted policies of the modern American Democrat Party) is inviting the ruination of European culture through a policy of self-loathing and the commission of societal suicide. I am proud to be an American first, and a person of European decent second. The problem with our immigrants in the United states, many of whom are illegal and who number more than a small European country, is that they identify themselves as of their home nations first, they stubbornly refuse to learn our common English language, and they refuse to assimilate into American culture. The socialist power structure is waging an all out assault on the English language. The are creating two Americas, which consolidates their power base as they keep the masses involved in conflicts, set up the system against the host culture, and set themselves up as the answer to the conflicts. Diversity does not work unless minorities identify themselves with their host cultures, learn the languages of their host cultures, and begin to share common values as their host cultures. They must begin the process of becoming an engaged citizen in their host culture. We can see that throughout history the multiculturalism in the Alexander's Greek Empire, the Roman Empire, Tito's Yugoslavia, and The Soviet Union was a strong reason for their demises. And take notice of the nations I reference. They were all empires or dictatorships that imploded. Can we not learn from history???

Patricio Bridges said...

First they took away my guns, then they took away my religion, then they took away my history, then they took away my flag and with that flag my pride was removed and this how I became a slave!

Kathy said...

There was one line in the movie Spartacus that Kirk Douglas said that I have always remembered. "When just one man says 'No, I won't!', Rome begins to be afraid."