Friday, January 18, 2013

The Bee and the Lamb, Part 9 (Continued)

Note: Takuan’s post (which was originally published last night) is to remain at the top for a while, so I made it “sticky”. However, much has happened since it went up, including the Blogger outage. Scroll down for a report on that.

See also: Two forthrightly anti-Semitic Islamic leaders in Norway, Judicial coddling in Germany, and Part 3 of the Imran Firasat interview.

More new posts will be added below this one. Oh, and don’t mess around with JIM.

The essay below is the conclusion of the ninth part in a series by Takuan Seiyo. See the list at the bottom of this post for links to the previous installments.

Left: Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Dance at Le Moulin de la Galette, 1876
Right: George Grosz, Metropolis, 1916/17

The Bee and the Lamb
Part 9 (continued)

By Takuan Seiyo

A Whole New Road to Serfdom

That Which is Not Seen (continued)

For over 60 years, White mea-culpists have had a firm grip in all fields of cultural mind imprinting: education high and low; paper media, then electronic, then digital media; all forms of entertainment, the plastic arts and music high and low, and religious instruction and worship too. Their main endeavor has been to enforce their compulsory (e.g. K-12) and discretionary (e.g. television) self-flaying on account of long-ago Slavery, Colonialism, Imperialism, Male Supremacism, Racism, Antisemitism, and so on.

It’s the evils of the Iberian Inquisition — which were evil — but not the evils of the Japanese equivalent in which, in the 40 years up to 1597, 50,000 Christians were publicly crucified, burned or beheaded. Nor the evils of the worldwide Islamic Inquisition which — not in the 16th century but now, in the 21st, condemns Muslim apostates to barbaric execution. It’s America’s destruction of the snail darter but not Mussulmanism’s destruction of the Bamyan Buddhas or its proposed destruction of the Sphinx and the Pyramids, let alone its obliteration of all the pre-Rome cradles of Christianity but for remaining ruins in the Middle East and dust of the desert in North Africa.

It’s the evils of feudalism and industrial workers’ exploitation in Europe and America, but not the strict Confucian evils of Northeast Asia. There, a member of the ruling class in China had, essentially, a free hand with anyone of the lower classes, a Japanese samurai could test his sword by cutting down an insolent peasant, and farmers were so squeezed by their fief holders that they habitually sold their daughters to bordellos for the few coins it provided for next season’s seed.

Feminism, Socialism and anti-Antisemitism should have arisen in Saudi Arabia or Yemen, Algeria or Peshawar, for good reasons. Instead, aggressive White androphobes of all genders which I can no longer count are decimating the philogynous and egalitarian West. Equality psychos are tearing down the most egalitarian society that ever existed (except for initial communist experiments, before they turned bloody). American Jews, at the apex of the greatest fortune and philosemitic tolerance their long diaspora has ever bestowed on their kind, are busy supporting all the ideologies and policies that demolish their safe harbor and build up their Muslim, Black and Third World enemies. They will come to rue their tacit assumption that better the antisemite you don’t know than the few hundred imputed and real ones catalogued at ADL.

One would be hard put to find a nation not based on the invasion of another people’s territory and their mass slaughter. Yet poisoned American madmen proclaim “No Thanks for Thanksgiving” as though the Indians themselves did not fight endless genocidal wars from Peru to Canada, with torture, ritual murder or slavery for the captives and, at times, cannibalism too.

Leftoid masochists and the Christian meek call for returning Hawaii to the Hawaiians and capitulating before a massive Mexican reconquista of one-third of America. The self-defined “Feminist-Tauist-NeoPagan-Post-Structuralist-Deconstructionist-Socialist” useful idiot Gillian Schutte begins her New Year 2013 Dear White People by “wholeheartedly apologizing for what my ancestors did to the people of South Africa and inviting you to do the same.”

Yet the Magyars don’t seem to feel much guilt over the Illyrians, Pannonians, Sarmatians and Celts whose land and lives they took in the 9th century, to form Hungary. The rightful Etruscan landowners are not bearing angry placards in front of the Vatican. The Japanese are not planning to relinquish Hokkaido to its original owners, the Ainu. The tall, white and fair-haired Chachapoyas of the Andean forest have, alas, no remnants left to sue the Incas for genocide in a Peruvian court of law. The Aztecs, whether in Jalisco or Los Angeles, don’t agonize over having taken what would become Mexico City from its original Culhuacan owners, with lots of grisly details. Yet for 38 years Neil Young has been reminding adoring audiences about “Cortez the Killer”, discreetly omitting Tlacaelel the killer and the killer people whom Cortez killed.

Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust (1996) is a book by Daniel Goldhagen presenting the thesis that the German nation as such was composed of willing executioners of the Jews because of a unique “eliminationist antisemitism” in the German people, with long historical roots. However, even that great moral abyss of Western civilization — the Holocausts — stands out more in its industrialized and organizational features than it does either in the quality of its hatefulness or its relative or even absolute volumes. And Holocausts they were, for in addition to the nearly 6 million Jews, the Germans also murdered over 21 million civilian Slavs, and that’s counting Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Belarus and Czechoslovakia alone.

In absolute numbers, the total number of World War II non-German civilian victims of Nazi Germany is smaller than the 50 million victims of the Bolsheviks in Russia, or Mao’s 70 million in China, or the Mughal-Muslim genocide of Hindus — the latter have their own Holocaust Day on August 14.

In relative numbers, in just one year, 1994, the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, killed off a total of one million, in a population of 7 million. 75% of the Tutsi population was erased. Is it more humane to go by a stroke of a blunt machete than by a whiff of Zyklon B?

The Khmer Rouge murdered at least 2 million Cambodians between 1975 and 1979: one quarter of the population, by a conservative count. Is it more humane to die by wallops from a Cambodian pickaxe handle than by a bullet from a German Mauser?

Ukraine 1942, Jewish Aktion, Ivangorod
Inscription on the back (in German): “Ukraine 1942, Jewish Aktion, Ivangorod.”

There is a special horror attached to the Third Reich, because those were 20 th century Europeans, Christians, and in many ways the smartest, most civilized people on Earth. But the Holocausts do not prove that Whites are worse than other people, just that they are no better. The history of the Third Reich also proves that with the right formula of economic blowup, misery and humiliation, sparked by charismatic evil, no people are immune to such horror, at no time.

And that includes the here and now. Unaware that history that occurs first as tragedy repeats itself as farce, the Rulers of the West have cooked up a potion with similar ingredients to those of 1930s Germany, complete with an imported Semito-Turkic minority that Europeans have far fewer reasons to like than they did the previous, semi-indigenous Semitic minority once living among them. What’s missing are hyperinflation and the evil genius. But not to worry — they are working hard on “quantitatively easing” and “prime pumping” the hyperinflation into being. And hyperinflations have a way of unearthing evil geniuses too.

All that while thinking that they have run away from Hitler as far and as fast as is humanly possible, having roiled from Berlin to Brisbane 24/7 for 50 years to find the fascist in every White and the evil in every facet of Western tradition.

Hence the loud guffaw reverberating through the cosmos.

De mortalitate

The early Church Father and martyr, Cyprian of Carthage, was witness to the smallpox pandemic that devastated the Roman Empire in the second half of the third century. The pandemic is known as the Plague of Cyprian, because he described it in the consoling missive to his congregation, De mortalitate, i.e. “On the Plague.” At its height, the plague killed 5,000 people a day in Rome alone and, according to Cyprian, no house in Carthage was without its victims.

It’s the irony of recurring human folly that the powers that be and the mob in Carthage blamed the Christians for the plague and unleashed murderous persecutions against them, just as the Christians would blame the Jews for the bubonic plague a millennium later, and kill them by the hundreds of thousands across the continent, from Spain to Lithuania. [1]

The task of science in epidemic etiology is to find and isolate the cause. Only then can the cure be devised. With respect to the Western brain rot that I call acute cognitive spongiform encephalitis, a small group of academics in the 1950s-60s was “patient zero.” What the homosexual Canadian flight attendant Gaëtan Dugas was with respect to the spread of AIDS, they were with respect to multiculturalism, “diversity,” demonizing the white race, extolling the barbaric and inferior as long as non-white, rewriting history, white population replacement, Islamization, “justice and equity” (with mutations such as “environmental justice”), celebration of loose sex and of deviant sexuality, demonization of men and masculinization of women, sabotage of the West camouflaged as love of Gaia, and the conversion of the entire Western gestalt from amalgamated Christianity and Enlightenment rationalism to a fanatical secular religion replete with totems and taboos, manifest lies, forbidden truths, hallucinatory mandates revealed to chosen prophets, and persecution of apostates.

Stephen R.C. Hicks: Explaining PostmodernismThe American philosopher Stephen Hicks has traced this causal chain superbly in his Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault.[2]

Hicks traces the roots of postmodernism to Rousseau, Kant and Heidegger, but we shall examine just five of the post-1950 main branches: all university professors of major renown. Of the four academics whom Hicks credits with originating postmodernism — Michel Foucault, Jean-François Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, and Richard Rorty — we shall look next at Foucault and Derrida. Then, the father of the postmodern New Left, Herbert Marcuse, whom Hicks also covers in his book. Finally, two chief Anglophone spreaders of the pox in the realms of history and literary criticism: Howard Zinn and Edward Said.

All of that, and all of these, have been mutations of Marxism, just as the successful virus absorbs and adapts to the body’s defenses and then finds a new avenue of attack that circumvents the body’s immune system.

This perception is of significant operational implication. To cite just one of some twenty major plagues now bedeviling the West, it implies that the advanced Islamization of Western Europe and the creeping one of the Anglophonic diaspora cannot be combated by arguing about the history of Islamic imperialism, the wiles of taqiyyah or the evils of sharia.

Islam and Muslims are not the lethal disease. It’s the West’s postmodern Marxism-soaked universities that are the lethal disease, and the generations of their programmed graduates who are now the Ruling Class of the West. Without them, Muslims would have been back where they were in 1955 — in Sanaa and Fallujah, Islamabad and Jawhar, but not in Houston, Melbourne, Amsterdam and Cologne. Islam would have still had its supremacist dreams, but dormant and subdued — for Muslims, in their own native milieus and dealing with a self-confident, rational West, would have had other things to worry about than how to make the World Khalifate come true. In fact, a sort of tenuous friendship could have existed between the West and Dar-al-Islam, the way it existed between mid 19 th and mid 20 th centuries.

If only the West’s nouveau-Marxists had not shot their host society in the head…

Liberalism, Islam, and Socialism
Picture on the left by permission of D.T. Devareaux; picture on the right, popular icon, creator unknown


1. It’s important to keep track of such things in a civilization that’s dying by its own hand. For what is taking place is bad karma accumulated from horrific stupidity in the past, acting to produce a countervailing horrific stupidity in the present. The chain of stupidity could be broken if people were able to see the pattern. You cannot and should not atone for the murder of six million Jews by self-kneecapping through the import of 25 million profoundly alien Muslims three generations later.
2. Stephen R. C. Hicks, Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault, Ockham’s Razor, August 2011.

Takuan Seiyo is a European-born American writer living in exile in Japan.

Previous posts:

2008 Oct 14 The Real Mark-to-Market
  Dec 1 You Say Mumbai, I Say Bombay
2009 Apr 8 The Deadly Jive of Jiverly Diversity
  Jun 2 The American Press: The Unbearable Lightness of Treason
    12 Critique of the Culture of Kevin MacDonald
  Jul 31 Sons of Onan
  Sep 2 Be the Change
  Dec 15 F Street
2010 Apr 25 Vast Canyon of Gas and Dust, Inshallah
  Jul 7 Vast Canyon of Gas and Dust — Progressive Progress Report
  Dec 12 The Art of Strategic Citizenship, Part 1
2011 Jan 7 The Art of Strategic Citizenship, Part 2
    31 The Art of Strategic Citizenship, Part 3
  Mar 20 The Art of Strategic Citizenship, Part 4
  Apr 2 The Art of Strategic Citizenship, Part 4(b)
  Sep 30 On Fanciful Attributions and Wishful Imputations
  Nov 1 The Bee and the Lamb, Chapter 1
  Dec 1 The Bee and the Lamb, Chapter 2
2012 Jan 1 The Bee and the Lamb, Chapter 3
  Feb 12 The Bee and the Lamb, Chapter 4
    13 The Free University of Brussels is Not Free
    23 A Short Treatise on Modern Dance
  Mar 6 The Bee and the Lamb, Part 5
  May 4 Prokophy is Destiny
    12 The Three Cs
  Jun 16 Through the Looking Glass
  Aug 6 The Bee and the Lamb, Part 6
  Sep 25 The Bee and the Lamb, Part 7
  Oct 17 The Bee and the Lamb, Part 8
  Nov 7 Cowards Lose
  Dec 6 Stupidity Worse Than Hate
    6 The Bee and the Lamb, Part 9


Anonymous said...

August 14 Celebrations

"the Mughal-Muslim genocide of Hindus — the latter have their own Holocaust Day on August 14."

On that same day that the Pakistanis are celebrating their national day...

Lisa Beth W. said...

Hurray, you're back! :)

Grumpy said...

Welcome back-- You had some people concerned.

I was on Blogger a couple years ago and through some of what happened to you- The forums are okay I guess, but I recall Google being slow to release information.. Not what you want when your site is missing

Now I pick up the phone and call my host if something isn't right.

I posted earlier about you being MIA- I need to update that-

PMP said...


Thank you. I am not going to comment on the brilliance of your essay, we already knew about this. No:
I want to thank you for giving people the truth.

"Islam and Muslims are not the lethal disease. It’s the West’s postmodern Marxism-soaked universities that are the lethal disease, and the generations of their programmed graduates who are now the Ruling Class of the West. "

It took me some time to realise this. This acknowledgment is KEY to the entire future of our movement. We cannot try to stop or combat a global religion and a population of a billion. The problems is not the muslims or their religions. That they CAUSE a problem is a PRODUCT of the REAL PROBLEM. Without acknowleding the root issues, we cannot deal with the chaos that will be in front of us.


Anonymous said...


It would be most interesting to hear your opinion on Der Grossmufti's influence on his friend Adolf regarding Holocaust.

Knowing that the idea of Endlösung was nothing new, being clearly expressed in that great book of the former, would it not be obvious that Adolf had more than a little help figuring out the whole concept, and that the whole idea quite simply was not at all conceived by the latter all by himself? Adolf, the Austrian megalomaniac friend, was actually a tool that came in handy for the former, it may seem.

Anonymous said...

Postmodernism (social Marxism whatever you want to call it) is very much like AIDs. AIDs does not kill directly but rather it destroys the immune system so that viruses and bacteria that would otherwise just be unpleasant and annoying end up becoming deadly.

Islam is a flue virus that AIDS (Political correctness) will make deadly by destroying the immune system.

Green Infidel said...

Many years ago as a child at school in London, England, I remember in geography lessons a film being shown (one part every week, for around five weeks) about the cowboys versus the Indians. As we usually had some challenging task to do beforehand, all of us were looking forward to the next part of the film. A couple of parts were covering Sitting Bull, General Custer and how the American whites treated the Indians. By the time the film reached the Battle of the Little Bighorn, all of us (me included) were cheering on the Indians. However nowhere in the series was it mentioned how the Indians treated each other. One had the impression that they all got along happily until the whites came along.

To this day I believe the Indians were badly treated - however, as Takuan Seiyo discusses in this essay, many if not most nations badly treated others - at one point or another. However which of those nations feels such a guilt about it, beyond the "white" and "Christian" countries?

And yes - Islam is not the main problem. Instead, it's certain features of our own civilisation. If not for Islam, would things be much better? Or would another aggressive ideology come along wanting to destroy us? The AIDS virus does not directly kill any patient - instead, it destroys the immune system so that other, normally curable diseases end up being deadly. Such as rare forms of cancer, which would normally be fought off (the human body sees many new cancers forming on a normal day - however most of these are destroyed by antibodies). So is Islam not like the cancer, and political correctness and cultural Marxism the AIDS virus which allows it to spread, unhindered?

However, this surely begs another question - WHY has this cultural Marxism spread like wildfire around our universities and institutions - and, most importantly, the general public? What process is it that changes a society from having a sense of togetherness and responsibility, to one that wants to be "tolerant" and "inclusive" at all costs - even to elements that want to destroy it - and labels anyone that challenges this state of affairs a fascist? Surely if we can change this, then the problem of cultural Marxism may be resolved. However by then, could the threat of Islam be too big to be able to withstand it?

Anonymous said...

@Anon 5:38

I don’t know much about what transpired in exchanges between Hajj Amin and Schicklgruber. I am aware of one book on this subject, but don’t know the depth or integrity of the writer (Micah something, Israeli name). However, the Bosnian-Albanian SS Muslim troops notwithstanding, I feel (rather than know) that Hitler had had so much Jew-hatred to pick up from Germanic and other European sources, that it would have been redundant for him to draw on Islamic ones too.

Consider that Austrian parliamentarian and later Vienna’s mayor Karl Lueger was an outspoken antisemite already in the 1880s. Among the most charismatic mayors of Vienna ever, his antisemitism was an important part of his popularity. Both the Austrian Christian Social Party and the Christian Socialist Workers’ Party in Germany had antisemitic platforms already in the 19th century. The First International Anti-Semitic Congress met in Dresden in 1882. Édouard Drumont founded the Antisemitic League of France in 1889. And so on...

There are large, earlier founts of antisemitism in the German culture: in Luther, for instance, or in Fichte and Kant, not to speak of earlier medieval times. There was plenty of rich indigenous humus on which Hitler’s ideas could grow. But that’s not enough to paint all Germans and Austrians with a broad brush, or to commit now the perversion of self-hatred (rampant in Austria) or self dissolution – i.e. population replacement -- practiced with abandon in both Austria and Germany.
Takuan Seiyo

Anonymous said...

@Anon 8:21 & Green Infidel

You will see in Chapter 10 that ot the two great French pillars of postmodernism, Foucault was a nymphomaniac homo who died of AIDS after cutting a swath through the gay bathouses of San Francisco, and Derrida specifically described all his theories as a cultural virus; something intended to jam the Western mind. So yes, Islam is a virus, but it's a virus that didn't bother us much after 1715. The important virus is the postmodern HIV, through which other virusess such as Islam found a pathway of infection.
Takuan Seiyo

Matt Bracken said...

Jean Raspail said it very well thirty years ago in The Camp of the Saints. Now we get to watch the slow motion death of the West from a front row seat. Very good essay. A history to be read by...?

Anonymous said...

TS is correct, the Marxocracy of the Western University system is the font of almost all of the poison that is infecting and destroying our societies. These rich Marxists live lavish, taxpayer-funded lives of ease and pleasure, while crapping all over the very people and system that allows them to have such a cushy existence.

We need to create strategies for destroying the Marxocracym, such as:

--Campaign for cutting off most funding for liberal arts programs at universities. Emphasize the lavish salaries, subsidized faculty meals, private gymnasiums, junkets to the Caribbean, etc., that your average tenured Marxocrat sucks from the taxpayer's teat every year. Ask if the lavish lifestyle for the "teachers" of worthless ideologies is justified at a time when police and fire departments are being cut back, and the poor and elderly are being deprived of needed services?

--Campaign for online university education, which will eliminate lots of cushy university jobs in the liberal arts. After all, anybody can film a video teaching "Hating Western Civilization 101" to millions of students online, so why do we need to spend money on having so many of them? Make the argument that one well-known, rich Marxocrat, like Noam Chomsky, can do the "work" of thousands of lesser known ones, so it's a waste of money to pay and employ all the other ones.

--Campaign for monuments to the victims of Communism in all Western countries. There are none, except for one in Poland, I believe. Yet Communism killed 10 times as many people as Nazism. Of course, none of these monuments will be funded, but it will put the establishment, taxpayer-teat sucking Reds in a very uncomfortable ideological place. Make them defend their "reasons" for not honoring the victims of mass murderers like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. For once, we need to seize the moral high ground and HOLD WESTERN REDS ACCOUNTABLE for supporting and apologizing for so many mass murderers in the 20th century.

--Demand that the files that Germany inherited from the Stasi after reunification be fully opened to the public so that we can all see how many Western "intellectuals", "jornolists", "activists" and "politicians" were pocketing bribes from the Communists during the Cold War, in exchange for undermining and poisoning the West.

Anonymous said...

"The important virus is the postmodern HIV, through which other virusess such as Islam found a pathway of infection."

Great essay, but Marxists have purposely imported Muslims as their own personal 'brown shirts' rather than Muslims wandering along and happening upon the unprotected West on their own.

Marxists intend to use Muslims in two ways: 1) to break down civil order and civil and human rights, and 2) to give cause to eliminate ALL religions after Muslims have served their role as useful idiots.

I suppose the most important and uncomfortable unanswered question is WHO are the very busy but very quiet Marxists at the top of the heap? Shhh.


Anonymous said...

@Matt Bracken

History is always written by the winners; we all knew that.

Indeed there have been self-aggrandizing distortions in taught history. But we live in an age when revulsion with “history by the winners” has produced a history written by the losers. There are always delicate moral orchids (Jews have a special aptitude for that, and let’s remember that Jesus was one) for whom our sins and excesses become a catalyst for voicing the losers’ version of history. So now we are in a period when three generations have grown being taught history as it would have been written by the losers, had the losers written history. And the distortions there are at least as large, going the other way, as there had been in the previous versions of history.

All those distortions happen to stick large spikes into our living flesh, as all our rulers are firmly convinced that what they have been taught about male whitey’s evil is the Truth itself. And nowhere have they been taught such agitprop more than in the graduate schools of law, education and journalism. Those three happen to determine how the brains of the rest of society are shaped and how our world is run.

Even for the military. Consider that you have no chance at even the first star unless you have been properly indoctrinated either at Madeleine Albright’s CFR, or at the Kennedy School of Progressive Gummint at Harvard.

Speaking about the military, since I know your short CV, I’ll admit to a fascination with the absolutely insane military adventures of the transition period from the 19th to the 20th century. If you have not seen the 1968 “The Charge of the Light Brigade” with Trevor Howard and John Gielgud, it really fleshes out a point in history that the negativist can hang his shingle on. The animation title sequence alone is worth the price of the DVD.

Then there is WWI. I have two Scots-American friends whose grandfathers emigrated after each became the sole man to return to his Highlands village from the war. The decisions of the [male] heads of state and military commanders in WWI were so insane that they contributed greatly to a singular moral and spiritual breakdown after, and to many political streams (e.g. feminism) whose sole virtue was that they stood in opposition to the upper-class patriarchal hegemony that had led the world to its First War.

The problem is that other than being in opposition to what had gone wrong, those trends are just as wrong and dysfunctional as the trends they replaced (think female Marines, race promotions, the Super-BS of “Navy - A Global Force for Good”).

We really need some new kind of thinking to get out of this morass. The idea is to return the pendulum back to its equilibrium zone, at least for those who still own their brains.
Takuan Seiyo

Hesperado said...

"It’s the evils of the Iberian Inquisition — which were evil..."

-- from Takuan Seiyo's essay.

I'm not so sure about that. I'd like to see a bit more substance to such a sweeping indictment, rather than a parenthetical truism glibly fleeting by.

Anonymous said...

The Left is one prerequisite for the advance of Islam, but the other, just as important, is that Islam is powered and funded by oil money. The devastating consequences of allowing oil to remain in possession of Islam was predicted in detail in 1975 in an article titled "Seizing Arab Oil" written by pseudonym Miles Ignotus (Henry Kissinger). In 1975 the leaders of the West rejected the arguments of Miles Ignotus and surrendered to Islam. What we are seeing now are just the working out of the century long consequences of that surrender. And the only way to bring the advance of Islam to a halt is to go back to 1975 and revisit the recommendations of "Seizing Arab Oil".

goethechosemercy said...

"Islam and Muslims are not the lethal disease. It’s the West’s postmodern Marxism-soaked universities that are the lethal disease, and the generations of their programmed graduates who are now the Ruling Class of the West. "

The West, to redeem itself and preserve its identity, must take responsibility for itself-- recte and non recte.
That means extirpating the spectre of Western exceptionalism, most particularly in the matters of genocide, racism, poverty and slavery.
It also means shifting the exceptionalist premise to where it needs to be-- an appreciation of the uniqueness of Western civilization and every assumption about human nature and society it makes.
In Islam, duress is the essence of law. He who submits is law-abiding.
In the West, anything done under duress, anything taken, raped or degraded under duress, has no standing in law.
Contemplate the implications of that idea, and you see Western exceptionalism.

Kepha said...

Since you mention the Iberian Inquisition, and other posters mention Marxism--

From its inception in 1484 to its abolition by the French occupation forces of Napoleon in 1804, the Spanish Inquisition in Spain itself actually killed about 4,000 people in its heresy hunts. That's roughly a year's body count for the intramural heresy hunts of the Spanish Left during the 1930's.

Speaking as a physical descendant of Sephardic Jews and a spiritual descendant of Dutch Calvinists, I hold no candle for the Inquisition. Yet the crimes and terrors of the 20th century ought to make every evolutionary materialist deeply ashamed of himself.

Anonymous said...

Anthropology has long established some universals, that is, traits found in every human group. They are due to our biology and basically are: long infant dependency, some sort of family, group living, male dominance over women, exogamy (taboo of incest), ethnocentrism and related to the latter religiosity. In this sense God becomes the symbolic representation of the group itself and religion (re – ligare or re – unite) does exactly what it says for the group.
In a modern society the concept of nation occupies the place of religion. Therefore well integrated individuals fight for their country to guarantee personal and group survival, which are interdependent. Marxist accused God of being the alibi of the ruling class and killed him, but to their surprise nothing much changed because the nation, the group’s symbol, remained strong. The obvious target for these murderous morons should be the symbolic group itself, the sense of belonging. Therefore the mass immigration and the cultural relativism. Once no one person can relate to the group and identify with it all meaningful opposition will have disappeared and a small well organized and ruthless groupuscule of commies will grab power all over the world. End of story

Lawrence said...

Firstly, the Nazis where not Christians in the true Biblical sense. Nazi-ism had developed it's own unique religious cult that many embraced. Yes, Christians did participate in many German atrocities but where violating their Christian doctrines in doing so.

While Hitler acknowledged his Western Civilization identity in context of common religious ideologies, he neither embraced nor promoted a specific religious theology other than the cult which he and Goebbels dreamed up.

To say that Christians participated in all this (without acknowledging these actions as non-Christian) makes it seem that Christians and Christianity was/is okay with the Nazi agenda.

This misleading context seriously misconstrues the history of the atrocities blaming established religious ideologies for the actions of various secularists and cultists.

True Christian theologies and ideologies had virtually no bearing on Hitler's secular and cult practices and political machinations. He was primarily driven by his selfish aggrandizement and selfish need for power.

Lawrence said...

Following on my previous post, historically, Hitler's initial effort of rounding up people for prison was not an ethnic issue but an ideological-political issue.

If we are truly honest about our history here, Hitler initial concern was to crush the growing communist movement within his country. His national socialism was in direct conflict with communist socialism, and one of the primary reasons he didn't get along with Stalin.

In this, Hitler's efforts to round up people where primarily focused on Marxists and communist sympathizers, many who where of Jewish decent. It became an anti-Jew endeavor rather quickly but it wasn't just Jews it was any Marxist (non-nationalist) sympathizer.

I'm not excusing what Hitler and his minions did. Just pointing out that history isn't always what we are taught that it is.

Interesting parallel is that most of us fighting back against Marxism today are fighting the very agendas Hitler was during his rise to power.

In this struggle the Marxists and Islamists are using each other to conquer those of us who resist. And once we are conquered they will eventually turn on each other.

So who do we fight? Do we side with the Marxists against the Islamists, and then fight the Marxists? Do we side with the Islamsts against the Marxists? Or do we try to fight both?

I don't know. But currently, the governments of the west are ignoring the Marxist threat (often embracing the Marxist agenda) in our war with Islamist Terrorism. And the Islamists are living it since these initiatives are actually destroying the wester nations from the inside out.

All Islamists have to do is keep our attention focused away from our internal destruction long enough for us to bring ourselves down. And all they have to do is simply walk in and pick up the pieces. And their first target will not be Western Christianity, but the Secular Marxism bringing down Western Civilization from the inside out.

Anonymous said...


Your revisionist comment about the Inquisition is a common problem with Catholic apologists and Holocaust deniers. But these are two incontrovertible historical events, the massaging of which by people who feel uncomfortable with recorded facts is counteproductive to the very causes they profess to care about. For any restorative endeavor must begin with the motto, "First, the Truth" -- and that's phenomenological truth, establioshed by rational means, as opposed to the revealed truth of religious devotees.

Like with the Holocaust, the only issue about the Inquisition is not whether it was evil, but how many victims there were. I am not an expert on this and have therefore no strong opinion (about the number of victims). But before you casually toss phrases like "parenthetical truism glibly fleeting by," I urge you to read about the Inquisition in "A History of Christianity" by a conservative, practicing Catholic, Paul Johnson.

One related topic that I know better and researched in primary sources is the history of the Swiss Anabaptists. You will find "The Martyrs Mirror" posted on the web, subtitle,"A collection of testimonies and letters of 16th century Anabaptist martyrs, enlarged by Thieleman van Braght around 1659 based on earlier works published in Holland more than a century before."

Read that, and reflect.

Takuan Seiyo

Anonymous said...

@ Lawrence
I don’t think you’ll find anyone in this forum who might allege that Christianity motivated the Nazis. Arguing such a point is more relevant in progressive loonie forums like the HuffPo, Daily Kos etc. But it is relevant that some of the worst of the worst, e.g. SS, Gestapo, Concentration Camp command etc. were practicing Christians – Catholic Austrians and Protestant Germans. And prior to WW2 both creeds had pronounced antisemitic components, which is perhaps why these people did not find in their religious faith the brake that it should have been.

The history of Hitler’s initial activities you cite is, to my knowledge, the correct and accepted version of history – but then I was not indoctrinated in the American K-12 system so perhaps I am off the mark. One correction: the German anti-commie struggle predates Hitler and exceeds him – that’s what the Freikorps were doing in 1919. Moreover, the astonishingly high percentage of Jews among the top leaders of German communism at that time is no secret either, though perhaps not many are aware of this. A famous, respected biographer of Hitler (I forgot which one, but Brit) wrote that it was that fact that brought on the acute phase of Hiter’s Jew hatred. We shouldn’t care whether it’s politically correct to state this, nor are people justified who make unwarranted inferences that writing such things somehow expresses a justification for Hitler’s exterminationist machine.

As to your question “who do we fight,” you have to start from the fact that there is no fissure between Marxists and Islamists where we might enter. They are one front. But the power is with the Marxists – it’s only because of their power that Islamists have power too. That’s why my point is that what you describe as “All Islamists have to do is keep our attention focused away” is what we cannot let happen.” The Islamists are the minor point; the Marxists, the major one. I’ll get into the implications of this later.
Takuan Seiyo

Anonymous said...

We dropped the ball big-time in 1990 when we did not hold Western Marxists accountable for their treasonous behavior during the Cold War. Thus, they were able to spring back stronger than ever, like the Phoenix.

We need to publicize the atrocities of the Red Holocaust wherever and whenever we can, and point out how Western leaders (like the EU's Barrosso, and most of the old guard of the comically misnamed "Green Party") currently in power fawned over Mao and Pol Pot.

A book by a Chinese witness to the horrors of Maoism has been published in English, called "Tombstone" which documents the brutal slaughter of the so-called "Great Leap Forward" in which 36 million people perished due to both government persecution and government-engineered famine:

If you read the thread to this Guardian article, you can still see many unreformed Western Marxists trying to minimize and apologize and deny Mao's crimes. No one shames them for their support of Communist mass murderers and that's why they still flourish.

Of course, Hollyweird will never make a "Schindler's List" equivalent out of this book, nor out of any of Solzhynitzen's work on the gulags. But maybe someone from China eventually will?

Anonymous said...

The Mayans were right. We have reached a crisis point for human advancement. If high iq Europeans and their civilisation go down then the the world will cease to progress and sink back three thousand years.

As to why Europeans have allowed this to happen to them there are two reasons. Firstly, they have used guilt against us whilst fragmenting our homogeneous nations and tarnished our history so that individuals feel that they are alone in being against what is happening. They do not know what their fellow indigenous neighbours are thinking as they dare not express an opinion. So I dare not express an opinion for fear of being labelled racist and reported to the thought police and I feel guilty because I think I am alone and guilt eats away at my resistance. I am too paralysed by guilt to resist and too fearful of arrest if I do. After all, if there is a mass protest as with the EDL here in Britain, look what happens. Better keep mum and hope somebody else comes to our aid.

The second is that it is always easier to submit than to resist. It is almost as if we have been hypnotised and made to feel that we are filled with hate and bile and are unloving and unloveable if we stand up for ourselves. It is almost like the manipulation of the vampire of his victim before he digs in his fangs.

Here in Britain we are almost now so weakened that we are lost. An analysis of the census results shows that there are large areas where people put themselves down as British rather than English. For the first time the English had the option. You know that the British areas are those now dominated by the immigrant population who have flooded in to the tune of 15 million people in the last 60 years. Chief amongst those British areas are London, Birmingham and the Asian areas of the West and East Midlands and Lancashire and Yorkshire. The most English areas are now on the periphery. How do you ever remove 15 million people and growing rapidly without bloodshed. We are paralysed into inactivity especially when we see what happened to Tommy Robinson and poor Emma West who despaired at seeing she was the only indigenous English person left on her tram. Incarserated for their impudence.
They have used multiculturalism to create their totalitarian Marxist state and we are in no better a position than those living under the hammer and the sickle were.

Anonymous said...


I appreciate your time and your response to my comment.

Furthermore, we must always keep in mind regarding islamic ideas about "The Jew" in Germanic areas, the Ottoman Empire, and the evil's presence and its influence, which we can only imagine, until further research developed and communicated. We may imagine that there is a lot to be told about the subject.


Anonymous said...

@Anon 4:58

I discussed some old commie propaganda posters with a Polish friend and she said, "Yes, we were surrounded by this propaganda in Poland, but all -- at least a great majority -- knew that it was lying agitprop. Americans are surrounded by similar political lies, but not so many know that those are lying hogwash."

The two underlying themes of this work are "What happened to the Anglos" and "What happended to Christianity." You will find at the end that I see the solution for the former in a reformation and reblossoming of the latter.

Without a strong, transcendent belief it's impossible to oppose such a sea of lukewarm evil as envelops you in the UK and envelops all of us, in varying degrees, in all Western countries. You have to create a congregation of reactionary Christians, with belief as strong as that of the Christians of yore or the Muslims, yet channelled onto a modern track that's compatible with Biblical history, science and scientific analyses of the Bible, and shorn of the claims to a monopoly on transcendent truth by allowing that Catholics, Buddhists etc. have their own ways of transcendence -- though Muslims, however sincere their desire, don't because of the contaminated book and surrounding lore that guide them.

With faith regained, getting arrested for your political views is no longer a problem. Two million Britons would actively seek imprisonment by speaking the naked truth publicly, and fifteen million of their family and congregation members would hold 24/7 vigil in front of those prisons.

And the malignant dam would give way.

Takuan Seiyo

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Matt Bracken said...
"Jean Raspail said it very well thirty years ago in The Camp of the Saints"

- A must read! Personally, I have not read it yet, though.

Anonymous said...

I second Hesperado's questioning comment with regards to the Spanish Inquisition.

The European Christians benefitted immensely from the de-Islamification of the Iberian Peninsula of which the Spanish version of the Inquisition was the final and and thorough doing. Jews naturally got swept up, given the previous 500 year history of Muslim oppression and war, where the Islamists most certainly caused much animosity and suspicion between the two groups, granting favors for those who would do their bidding at the expense of the other. Jews sucked up to the Islamists to save their own hides, whilst carrying out unjust bureacratic regulatory activity on Christians.

Im not a scholar of the Spanish Inquisition, but I believe the flippant way in which you referenced it is very problematic and indicative of the demonizing European Christendom that you mention in your article.

Im not willing to condemn Ferdinand and Isabella, just as I am not willing to condemn Vlad the Impaler...or Harry Truman whom firebombed Japanese cities full of women and children.


Anonymous said...

Indeed there have been self-aggrandizing distortions in taught history. But we live in an age when revulsion with “history by the winners” has produced a history written by the losers. -- TS


Ive been commenting upon this for years now, after it dawned on me.

I think that Bob Dylan saw this we discussed on GOV a few days ago. See The Times They are a Changin' and Slow Train Coming.


Anonymous said...

Takuan Seiyo Post #26

I agree, excepting that their can be no truth ambiguity, where Buddhists have their own ways of trancendence.

The truth isnt relative.

What you are wishing for is wishy washy New Ageism crapola....where there is no truth, or there are many truths, and it's all relative, do your own thing man, dont force your ways on others. That isnt going to light fires under anybody, and certainly wont have anybody confronting the Moral and Cultural Relativist Marxists. That is where we are now and why Christianity has been crumbling. It's also why the Envangelicals are the fastest growing segment of Christianity, gaining new members from both within Christianity and converts to Christianity (in China for example).


Anonymous said...

@Anon 4:58 "and shorn of the claims to a monopoly on transcendent truth by allowing that Catholics, Buddhists etc. have their own ways of transcendence"

This is a very postmodern statement. This is why we have no hope! The AIDs virus cannot get rid of the AIDs virus.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for getting along with people who don't share my faith but really giving up claims to the objective truth and swapping it for relative truth is not how you create "Christians, with belief as strong as that of the Christians of yore" its how you create cultural Marxists.

I'm happy to co-operate with those of other faiths (including to fight a common enemy) and happy to let them live in peace but that doesn't mean I give up my claim to absolute truth (or expect them to give up theirs - I can live peacefully with them being wrong - but I won't stop believing I'm right).

If we (whoever "we" are) ever defeat postmodernism it won't be by also being postmodern. Unless we can come to believe in absolute truth we have no hope.

Those with an absolute truth (even an untrue one) will wipe the floor with those without one. That’s why Islam is on track to win in Europe.

I agree Islam are the useful idiots at present but with the current rate of change of demography that can (will) get out of hand in coming decades and then the roles will swap and the left will be seen to have been the useful idiots (of their own making).

Personally I doubt there is an all powerful small secret cabal of Cultural Marxists pulling the strings (just a lot of not so secret individual Marxists in power). Same with the Muslims. It’s a bit like ants that are dumb as individuals but have a hive mind that is smart. People united by memes rather than taking orders from secret leaders but it doesn't make the movements any less dangerous (maybe more so). Nor does it mean Europe won't finish up one day with power concentrated in the hands of a few.


Anonymous said...

The way to go? That is the question. In my view, we can use the feminized society we are living in to our advantage with videos like that of the Norwegian kid being attacked by enriched children. It should be translated, or subtitled to German, Spanish, French...and uploaded in Youtube. The reason being that here we are crossing a red line. Adults can take almost any dirt, but we are not accepting it for our kids. This should be our agitprop into the woman-minded society of present day. We must hold not infected/enriched ground with a discourse of legitimacy that invokes our children´s safety as often as possible. Such abuses should be talked over in every kitchen, once we have the minds and hearts political action will swiftly follow.

southwood said...

@Hesperado should just study the 20th century inquisition in Croatia where armed monks and other clergy ran concentration camps such as Jasenovac ?(40 exterminated), cut Serb throats, slaughtered whole villages, including children, and so on. 700,000 Serbs were slaughtered in WWII Croatia simply because they were not Roman Catholic.

Anonymous said...

Egghead - I just can't see Marxists consciously importing Muslims to act as their brownshirts, as you say. How would they do such a thing? It would be impossible to keep secret wouldn't it - the biggest problem conspiracies face.

Anonymous said...

to anonymus 34
I am sure you can picture marxist that hate imperialist and capitalist USA as the source of all evil, the force preventing the communist utopia. They have spotted the weakest link in the chain, namely Israel. Now that they don't have USSR they can only count on Islam, even if that implies letting in zillions of mahgrebies

Anonymous said...

What you learned of religion when you were nine years old, bolstered by confirmation bias as you grew older and perhaps by an instinctive and not sufficiently thought-out clinging to the unreconstructed old in response to the horrors of the day, does not qualify you to opione reliably what "truth" is with respect to God, or to define my so-far-sketchily hinted ideas relative to Christianity as New Ageism crapola.

Particularly so as I have already devoted almost an entire chapter to the Christianity of the Founding Fathers, which was nothing like like yours, and my ideas follow theirs. So if you feel ready to dismiss as Mew Ageism crapola the relevant insights of, Washington, Franklin, Jefferson and Madison -- and there are dozens more -- go ahead. I do not object to your faith or to your expressing it; just know that it will never again reclaim a strong following of even a plurality of Whites, whatever progress it may make in Africa and China.

As I have already stated, I am not willing to discuss Christianity except with people fluent in at least two of the three major languages necessary to really know something about Christinity: Aramaic, Hebrew and Koine Greek. Latin and German get you extra points. Second requirement is that you be familiar with historiographic New Testament research; I suggested Bart D.Ehrman. Read two of his tewenty books, think about them for a year, and then come back with opinions about Christianity that reflect knowledge and thinking rather than feelings posing as thinking. As to Vlad Tepes, Torquemada, Pope Leo X et al, well, as the French say, everyone has his own taste...
Takuan Seiyo

Anonymous said...

Here in Britain the fate of the cousins of America's white Anglo-Saxon protestants, the founders of your nation, will probably be decided by what happens over there.

If Obama succeeds and neutralises any resistance and America becomes racially another Nicaragua and no longer European in character and perhaps no longer even Christian then our fate is probably sealed.

The mystery is America's Jews who are voting for this. I fail to understand how they would wish to do this to the American people who have allowed them to settle and be so successful there and gave them their power base of New York.

If however the WASPs fight back and retake America, presumably resulting not only in an Islamic but also a mass hispanic exodus then we may survive and not end up like the Indian Sub-continent or Brazil. We are probably depending on you. Please don't let us down.

Hesperado said...

"Your revisionist comment about the Inquisition is a common problem with Catholic apologists and Holocaust deniers." -- Anonymous in response to me.

Anonymous lumps together two wildly different events, and by implication, two wildly different victim populations. The Jews were not doing anything wrong (except in the fevered imaginations of paranoid antisemites); the Muslims (the main target of the Spanish Inquisition) not only were a current ongoing threat through espionage and deceitful conversions, they had brutally conquered and occupied Spain for nearly 800 years, ruining and raping that country, its culture, its people.

Spain did what it had to do with a real and present danger. The German Nazis imagined a fantasy danger, and in the process perpetrated grotesquely, staggeringly worse crimes both quantitatively and qualitatively.

Why all this has to be pointed out to an ostensibly intelligent person in 2013 reflects one glimmer of the reason why the West at large remains myopic to the danger of Muslims.

Hesperado said...

"@Hesperado should just study the 20th century inquisition in Croatia..."

Apples and oranges. I was talking about the Spanish Inquisition.