Monday, January 07, 2013

The Turban and the Hijab for the Norwegian Police?

Ummah Norway

An official state committee in Norway recommended today that police officers be allowed to wear the turban, the hijab, and other religious gear while on duty. A little while later, however — apparently after dipping a toe into the turbulent waters of public opinion — the Ministry of Culture announced that no such decision had been made.

Our Norwegian correspondent The Observer has translated an article about this morning’s announcement, and sends this commentary about the aborted decision and its aftermath:

I have translated a depressing article from today’s Dagbladet about the rapid deconstruction of Norway instigated by radical and dim-witted Norwegian multiculturalists and their allies. These brainwashed cultural relativists condescendingly berate their compatriots, who are worried about losing their identity and culture, that nonwestern immigration constitute absolutely no threat whatsoever to Norway and Norwegian culture.


Why then are all the cultural changes that are occurring in Norway at the moment justified with the rationale that Norway is becoming increasingly multicultural? The population of Norway was roughly 3.9 million when this immigration started in earnest in the late 60’s. As of now first- and second-generation immigrants number almost 900,000 and this number (mostly non-Western) is expected to grow by an additional 1,250,000 by 2040, according to figures released by the Norwegian bureau of statistics (SSB).

Talk about cognitive dissonance.

These dimwits even have the nerve to suggest that Norway doesn’t have a unique culture; everything has apparently been imported from abroad. Norwegians are a people without roots, customs and traditions, a terra nullius if you like.

Our first Muslim government minister, Hadia Tajik, who happens to be Minister of Culture, will have the last word in this matter. A couple of years ago when she was just a simple government department advisor, she anonymously co-authored a press release, without having the authority to do so, that boldly stated that hijab had been allowed as part of the uniform in the police force.

One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out where this is going.

An update from The Observer at 11:00am EST:

Apparently Hadia Tajik, Norway’s Minister of Culture, has announced at a press conference just now that the hijab will not be allowed in the police force.

In my opinion this is not a decision that she has made herself, but is coming from someone higher up in the system. I presume that the response from the ‘peasants’ couldn’t be ignored (“we can’t afford to treat them too harshly in an election year”).

As I mentioned in my commentary to the translated article, Tajik wanted to allow the use of the hijab in 2009, when she co-authored a press release that declared it as an acceptable supplement to the police uniform.

I guess it’s still another couple of years down the track.

The translated article from Dagbladet:

Are considering allowing hijab and turban in the Norwegian police force

This is the conclusion of the Life-Stance Committee which will deliver its report to the Minister of Culture later today.

Judges and police officers should be allowed to wear hijabs and turbans while carrying out their duties concludes the Life-Stance Committee which will submit its report to the Minister of Culture on Monday.

It also proposes to replace traditional marriage ceremonies with civil unions.

Sturla Stålsett, who is an ordained priest, has led the Faith and Life-Stance Committee for the past two years. Along with a majority of twelve other committee members, he recommends that judges and police officers should be allowed to wear religious headgear. Only three committee members are opposed to the recommendations, writes Aftenposten.

There has been considerable political opposition to amending the police uniform regulations. The main argument is that the police and the judiciary must remain completely neutral. It is however permitted for soldiers in the military to use headgear such as hijabs, turbans and Jewish yarmulkes.


“I feel the same way now as I did when we passed the resolution at our national convention and which has been agreed upon unanimously in Parliament: It is important that those who exercise civil authority against individuals on behalf of the State come across as completely neutral. An in such instances they can’t wear a hijab or any other religious garments, but rather wear completely neutral clothing. And that means that police officer wear a uniform and judges wear a cloak,” says Jan Bøhler, the spokesperson for judicial matters for the Labour Party.

Politician and member of the AUF, Prableen Kaur agrees with the Committee:

“The Life-Stance Committee has taken into account that society is becoming more and more diverse, and that it is necessary to have a proper framework to encapsulate this diversity. It is a decision that reflects the times that we’re living in, and which are going to mirror tomorrow’s society in a more accurate manner,” she says.

The report will be presented to Minister of Culture, Hadia Tajik (AP — Labour Party) on Monday. The report also contains a number of other proposals that are likely to generate a debate, writes Vårt Land [“Our Country” — Christian newspaper].

Civil unions

The Life-Stance Commission wants a Norway that is open to all belief systems and where there is plenty of room for differences. The Committee wants to establish a clear principle in which national commemorations of mourning and celebrations are not delegated to any specific religious denomination.

“Faith and spirituality should not be feared or tucked away, but rather be allowed to express themselves visibly and naturally in opinions, attitudes and actions,” writes committee leader Sturla Stålsett in an op-ed in Vårt Land.

The Committee believes that religion should have a prominent position in society, but that the church shouldn’t be the master of ceremony at national commemorations. The Committee therefore wants civil unions to be the norm, rather than traditional weddings.

The committee also wants to ensure that arrangements such as traditional ‘church services’ for students’ don’t exclude other faith groups from inviting its students to religious services during school hours.

The committee also wants to sever the ties between the military and Christianity and the Norwegian Church. Faith should no longer be used to strengthen cohesion in a conflict situation, writes Stålsett in the op-ed.


Anonymous said...

2040 my foot. Norway will be history
by 2030 if present 'trends' keep up.
A nation of zhombies shuffling towards the edge of oblivion.

Anonymous said...

I visited Norway in 1999 with my family and we lost our hearts there. The amazing lanscapes and brave people living in such harsh climate. Now we feel sorry for this proud nation who make fool of themselves. Police officers with turbans in scandinavian landscape - seems more like a musical. Sad.

Hamid said...

"...The Life-Stance Commission wants a Norway that is open to all belief systems and where there is plenty of room for differences. "

Great - so then re-vivification of Nazism is OK???

No??? Why not???

'Totalitarianism and fascism, you say???'

Why do you think Nazism is any more totalitarian than Islam?

Prove it!!!!

Anonymous said...

I visited Norway in 1999 with my family and we lost our hearts there.
The amazing lanscapes and brave people living in such harsh climate.
Now we feel sorry for this proud nation who make fool of themselves.
Police officers with turbans in scandinavian landscape - seems more like a musical.

Anonymous said...

At present pace they will change the name of Norway in less than a decade. Probably Norkey,Turkway. Something along that line. Let´s make it clear, we won´t grant PM Stoltenberg the refugee status when he flees the country he is destroying. As legend has it, Boabdil, the last emir in the tiny kingdom of Granada expelled by the christian troops in 1492 in Spain, turned his head back to see his home for the last time and wept. His mother then told him: don´t cry like a woman for the country you didn´t defend like a man. History repeating itself in the opposite corner of Europe, only this time the christians are the loosers

Anonymous said...


A Norwegian habit of procrastination, and then, at the end a solution is found to getting the work done. Based on this habit, might there be hope that at a certain point the Norwegians will say stop and get to work?

Anonymous said...

Skippertak, in a word no, there is zero chance of Norway avoiding this awesome fate. The Breivik incident
has made it more difficult, and
Stoltenberg is another totally
bought politician. If they could get rid of him it would be a start, but like all of us in the White World,
we have to understand the need for
a physical solution. Democracy has turned into a trap for us, there is only one way out.

Beach Bum said...

"... people living in such harsh climate".

Harsh climates develops able people. Not to be discounted quite yet. Even independent Christians in Norway are now starting to reconsider some of the qualities possessed in the area while still practicing the Norse religion. Something that would be unheard of only a few years ago. A few left-wingers and even communists are speaking out against the madness. New trends.


Yes. Can be seen as a annoying national habit. Or, in this case it might be seen as a habit with a potential for some big surprises for the elites in the future. Patient and slow to anger, but when sufficiently provoked or suppressed...

Somewhat numbed by the control of schools, media and most political parties. More people changing to the Internet as their primary news-source each day.

2012 was a good year. My prediction is that 2013 will be better.

Anonymous said...

Beach Bum, yes harsh environments
will create a hardy people, but you are over 50 years out of date. The cold weather, snow, harsh terrain have all been mastered by the very capable Norwegians and a high level of comfort has been achieved. But this is the same high level of comfort which weakens the descendents of the old Norway. The urbanisations do not turn out pioneers now, just over-weight, spoiled and unambitious children who would rather watch telly than chop some logs, rather spend a few hours farting around on the computer than go out hunting for
game, and would rather somebody else solved the immigration/Moslem/
rape epidemic problems.Back to square one.

Anonymous said...

@Beach Bum

Yes. Can be seen as a annoying national habit. Or, in this case it might be seen as a habit with a potential for some big surprises for the elites in the future. Patient and slow to anger, but when sufficiently provoked or suppressed..."

Thank you, Beach Bum!

You are precisely expressing my idea.


Anonymous said...

Ongoing discussion in Norwegian MSM

This superficial discussion is avoiding the basis for a people's, the Norwegian, culture, namely that culture is what you find on the inside of the head.

At this stage, what is generally being discussed, and ridiculed, is the superficial expressions, which are nonetheless important, however, the immaterial cultural capital, is what brought Norway from a land of poverty, to overcoming this poverty, saving for rainy days and prospering.

Virtues like
- trust
- hard work

are what built this country. Christianity cannot be separated from the Norwegian culture, as it has been tightly woven into the People's history and culture.

What did the Scandinavian immigrants bring to America, when they arrived in the nineteenth century? Why did they succeed, starting from scratch, in the new land? Was it some of the Scandinavian cultural capital that they had brought with them all the way over the sea?

Lutefisk and ribbe are symbols of the Norwegian culture, but the recipe for the people's progress lays in the mind and set of values.
Trust - now, with the mites in the fabric - being on the decline has been the glue that kept the Norwegian society together, despite hardship, up until the oil era, that is.

By avoiding the real discussion, about what Norwegian culture is, and not the least, ignoring why totalitarian imperialistic islam is eating great cultures down through history, islamization is gnawing on the Norwegian fabric while the MSM and the rest of the "good" people are pseudo-trying to establish what Norway's culture really is.

Beach Bum said...

@Anonymous 1/09/2013 9:11 AM

I refuse to accept fatalism and defeatism. To be successful at something, you have to believe that you can be successful. If not, why try?

I disagree with a static evaluation of the Norwegian youth, or even entire population at any age. I will agree that a large part of it is numbed down at this moment. They appear to be the majority, but I do not think that appearance is correct. If a conflict should ever occur, between the urban/"intellectuals"/globalists and the rural/"salt of the earth"/nationalists, I know who's side I would be on, and who would carry the new regime. Norway's written recorded history is more than 1000 years already, the last 35 is only a fart on the horizon (a translation of a Norwegian expression to describe something really insignificant).

- It is impossible to significantly change a population in 30+ years (or even double that, see what happened after the Soviet Union collapsed for a recent example).
- It is impossible to measure or otherwise figure out what each individual really thinks.
- We have no science to tell us exactly when individuals decides to build interest groups, or how fast it will happen.

Even urban areas turns out independent people. In the current societal climate the large parts of the population are opportunists. That does not mean that they agree with what is going on, it only means they do not see it as opportune, or necessary, to counter it at this moment.

Concerted efforts by individuals needs leaders, as flagpoles or mounds to rally around. When the time is ripe, it is my belief that the necessary leaders will present themselves. In Norway, and in other countries.

Anonymous said...

Well Beach Bum of 2:59 pm, I hope you are young and will live for 30 years WITHOUT having to eat your words, but all the clues are there. In Britain in the 1970s when
immigration of far fewer browns and sub-Saharans was in progress, we had a party called the National Front which enjoyed massive but mostly silent support from the public.They went on marches AND were prepared to be physical with little provocation. Where is this group now, where is this Golden Dawn physicality and energy? And as we are talking with little Norway in mind, where is the energy and impetus to change things or to protest? It is nowhere to be seen, and you know it. We have become a race of couch-potatoes and girly-boys.

Beach Bum said...

Maybe I'll have to eat my words. Maybe I'll be dead. But at least it will not be because of my lack of effort, or because of my unwillingness to believe in myself or other common people. Defeatism is the first sign of a loss. If you fight for the same cause, Keep your defeatism to yourself. Tomorrow or next year, you might find your willpower again. At that point in time you will curse at yourself for bringing down the spirit of your compatriots. When feeling low, keep it to yourself. When feeling high, shout it from the rooftops. This is how to help a cause, even while you otherwise feel helpless.

Anonymous said...

Halvdan in Hagia Sophia
"Halvdan was here"

"Halvdan.." (wrote these runes), in old Norse, was carved into, and is to be found in the Hagia Sophia church in Constantinople