Monday, April 05, 2010

Update on the Ottawa Machete Jihad

The Facebook story I posted earlier today has made it into the Canadian MSM. The Carleton University students who were attacked have filed a complaint with the police, and it will be interesting to see how the excruciatingly multicultural Ottawan authorities handle this one.

Here’s the report from The Ottawa Citizen. Notice the sand-poundingly stupid PC bromides uttered by Carleton University administrators:

Machete used by attackers, students say

Carleton students file complaint with Gatineau police


A well-known student supporter of Israel at Carleton University and an Israeli engineering student at the university say they are counting themselves lucky to have survived an attack with what they say was a machete near a Gatineau bar early Monday.

Nick Bergamini, 22, vice-president of the Carleton University Students’ Association, said he and roommate Mark Klibanov were leaving Le Volt bar on Promenade du Portage at 1:45 a.m. when a group of about 10 men began yelling in English and Arabic that they were Zionists and Jews.

“These people must have been Carleton students because I recognized one of them,” Bergamini said. “I said I love Israel because I support Israel’s right to exist.

“I told them not to do this because I knew who they were, but I got hit hard on the back of the head. We ran to the bar entrance because bar security was there.”

The two men later decided to walk across the Chaudière Bridge to Ottawa when the crowd surrounding them dispersed about five minutes later. As they walked through a parking lot near the bridge, however, a car with three men inside pulled up beside them.

“One of them rolled down the window and said: ‘I am the one who hit you, you f——-g Jew,’ although I am not a Jew,” Bergamini said. “Two guys came out of the car, and one of them tried to kick my roommate.

“One attacker said, ‘Open the trunk,’ and another guy pulled out a machete that glinted in the street lights. I yelled that they had weapons, and we started running as fast as we could. I saw the guy wind up with the machete as I looked back.”
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Bergamini and Klibanov reported the attack to Gatineau police on Monday and said they planned to tell university officials about it. Gatineau police Lt. Gilbert Couture confirmed that police were investigating the attack, but provided no further details.

Klibanov, 20, said the machete missed the back of his friend’s head by about a foot as they sprinted across the bridge to Ottawa. He said they were not injured because they outran their assailants.

“I have never spoken to that guy in my life, but it is known at Carleton that I have been to Israel and that I have a Facebook site supporting Israel,” Bergamini said. “My roommate is on the board of the Israel Awareness Committee that does advocacy on behalf of Israel.

“I am happy that I am still alive. We both could have been killed (Sunday) night because he swung a machete at my neck.”

Klibanov said he recognized one man in the group, but couldn’t remember how many people were chasing him. He said somebody should be charged with the assault to prevent similar incidents in the future.

“The first thing they said before punching my friend is that we were Zionists,” Klibanov said. “This situation surprised me, but the intentions of these people did not.

“If you are from the right wing or are a supporter of Israel, it gets around pretty quickly because Carleton is one of the worst campuses for having a division between Palestinian and Jewish students. It is a really polarized campus between left and right, Jewish and Arab students.”

Jason MacDonald, a spokesman for the University, said Carleton provided opportunities for students to discuss emotional issues.

“The Israel and Palestine issue is one of the things that can cause people to become emotional,” MacDonald said. “Our job is to make sure that these debates can happen without anyone’s personal safety being threatened.

“We have met with student groups on both sides of such issues and told them that we are not here to tell them what to think, but certain kinds of behaviour are not acceptable.”

Len Rudner, director of the Ontario chapter of the Canadian Jewish Congress, said being a Jew or Zionist in Canada should not prompt such an attack.

“Maybe we should consider the impact that words can have in accelerating the argument to the point where people feel that this kind of behaviour is acceptable,” Rudner said.

“If you permit a constant invective and demonization of the Jewish state and people who support the Jewish state, some people will feel that this gives them the permission or responsibility to carry out this kind of attack.”


Hat tip: DS.

9 comments:

PatriotUSA said...

Finalrefuge said earlier:
"There is not much that can be done. It is well known that the large arab and somalian communities commit a disproportionate amount of crime. My arabic friends have told me on confidence to never trust an arab as duplicity and dishonour seem to be their culture and way of life."

So this is why there are CCW
permits availabale in most states.
I am not sure about Canada but if
this is a problem then you had
better arm yourself in some manner.
For too long people, and
many Jews seem to think others
will solve their problems. Hate
to be the bearer of bad
news but it is time
to stand up to these
mussie cowards who always
seem to travel in large groups.

The college administrators want
to discuss the Palestinian issue.
How touching they try to turn
it around to this issue.
It is about Jew hatred
from mussies and
anyone else who disagrees
with them. It is
the same in Ottawa,
Los Angeles, Antwero,
Paris, England. One must
take some responsiblity for
your own safety.

costin said...

“If you permit a constant invective and demonization of the Jewish state and people who support the Jewish state, some people will feel that this gives them the permission or responsibility to carry out this kind of attack.”
These people live in a paralel universe..

rebelliousvanilla said...

I guess they missed the demonization of white people in the media to say that about the Jews. And I really wonder what stance these two have on immigration.

On the other hand, it's time get rid of these people from our shores - machetes or not.

Morgan said...

“The Israel and Palestine issue is one of the things that can cause people to become emotional,” MacDonald said.

No kidding, Mr. MacDonald.

“Our job is to make sure that these debates can happen without anyone’s personal safety being threatened.

Well, I'd say your university hasn't done a good enough job, to say the least, Mr. MacDonald.

Len Rudner, director of the Ontario chapter of the Canadian Jewish Congress, said being a Jew or Zionist in Canada should not prompt such an attack.

And yet they happen, Mr. Rudner.

“Maybe we should consider the impact that words can have in accelerating the argument to the point where people feel that this kind of behaviour is acceptable,” Rudner said.

Are you serious, Mr. Rudner? We should consider the impact of words? Nothing but pathetic lip service.

filthykafir said...

"...a spokesman for the University, said Carleton provided opportunities for students to discuss emotional issues."

Dialog-with-machetes is, of course, just another discussion technique employed by the University. It's proved helpful to deal with "emotional issues" for many of the school's more verbally challenged students.

Thorkell the Tall said...

PatriotUSA, unfortunantly weapons are banned on virtually all college campuses at this point. CC permits don't work on them, nor are non-conventional weapons allowed (ie, swords, knives, spears, etc.) That's how it is in the US, I'm pretty sure Canada is even worse.

I wouldn't really mind dialog-with-weapons, but being so into history I'd prefer to see such dialog taken honorably, not in surprise attacks against unarmed opponents. Sadly, I think we've lost that path. Since it's clearly the case that the other side is willing to bring the weapons, we should probably be ready to bring the pain and hope they hurt worse than we do.

FinalRefuge said...

Not much of a chance of dialog occuring when the two sides are on such opposite extremes. The liberal majority in Ottawa have a barely concealed contempt for Israel. Lots of support for the underdog Pals but I can tell you this is mostly the result of our biased educational system and the loud voice that muslim student groups have on campus.

Yet there is hope. One person at a time I have been educating people and once they know some facts behind the situation they soon come to realize that we have a muslim problem in this country. Most people have a general unease towards islam and how far we should go to accomodate their demands yet everyone is still afraid of being called a rascist.

One day that silly overused word will come to mean nothing.

doom-and-gloom said...

RV,

I repeat what I said on the other thread..

Of these two guys one isn't Jewish and the other is Israeli. I doubt the Israeli has any stance at all regarding mass immigration to the West in general. I didn't have any opinion on that in the past, whatever Europe decided on that matter was fine with me. But I can assure you most Israelis are not supporters of Muslim mass immigration to Europe.

We also know them a bit better than Westerners, including Jews. It's you who decided to paint Israel as the big bad guy and the greatest threat to world peace (a European poll) and the Muslims as poor innocent victims. And it's you who invented the myth that Islam wasn't spread by the sword and that it was ultra tolerant and peaceful religion. It's you who explained everything that happens in the Middle East and the hatred of the West in Muslim lands as a result of the horrific oppression of 1.3 billion Muslims with 57 countries, oil and money by 5.5 million Jews living in a tiny strip of mostly desert land that comprise something like 0.2% of the Middle East. And it's you who believe that if only the Jews lay down their weapons (and be slaughtered) there will be complete and eternal peace in the Middle East. It's you who fully accepted the Muslim narrative rather than learn from our experience, and it's you who refused to see the Muslims for what they are. So these are the consequences.

costin said...

Blazingcatfur posted a Michael Coren interview with Nick about this attack. I've known Michael for a few years now and I've been surprised again and again how he is always all over this stories. He does a great job, in this interview and all the other.