Monday, December 11, 2006

Democrats Held Meetings with Hamas

World News Daily says that a meeting between unknown American Democrat politicians and Hamas took place before the elections: [emphasis mine]

According to the report, the alleged meeting with the Democrats took place in a European country following a series of preliminary meetings with representatives from the British and French governments.

The source told Maannews the Democrats expressed an understanding with the Hamas principle of not recognizing Israel and applauded Hamas’ willingness to accept a long-term cease-fire with the Jewish state in exchange for an Israeli withdrawal to what is known as the pre-1967 borders - meaning an evacuation of the Gaza Strip, West Bank and eastern sections of Jerusalem.

Last month, overall Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said his group would accept a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern Jerusalem.

Israel withdrew from Gaza last summer. Since then, Palestinian terror groups have been regularly firing rockets from the territory into nearby Jewish cities. The West Bank is within rocket firing range of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Israel’s international airport.

The Maannews report quoted the Hamas source as claiming prior meetings with European representatives “broke the ice” and facilitated the alleged talks with Democrat officials. The source claimed Britain and France recently discussed with the terror group the possibility of breaking an international financial embargo imposed on the PA since Hamas won parliamentary elections earlier this year.

The source claimed Britain and France are “coming to terms” with the Hamas position of mediating the so-called Israeli-Palestinian conflict with a long-term cease-fire instead of final status negotiations in which the PA would agree to peace with Israel in exchange for a Palestinian state. The source said the two countries asked Hamas for a position paper outlining ideas for a long-term truce with Israel.

Killing the childrenThis news follows closely on the heels of the assassination, by Hamas, of several children whose father is an intelligence officer in Fatah, the opposition party. Supposedly Hamas is angry that Abbas has called for early elections - a threat to Hamas since it currently holds the reins in Palestine’s parliament.

Hamas is also known to have a long-standing grudge against the father, Baha Balousheh, for his crackdown on violence some years ago.

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The initial news reports claimed that Mr. Balousheh was the supposed target of the killing. However, Carl in Jerusalem puts it in even starker terms: “I believe that they were trying to get the kids as a warning to the father and to other Fatah members.”

In other words, they knew the father wasn’t in the car; instead, the targeting of the children was a message to him. And the fact that the message was delivered in a font called Overkill, in a street full of other children, didn’t matter at all. What was important was to deliver the message.

And these people have the gall to complain about Israelis’ targeting of known killers. They are moral imbeciles and that fact is immaterial to them.

Meanwhile, on another subject, One Cosmos has this to say about the Palestinians:

[They] are probably the most comprehensively depraved people on the planet, truly one of the worst cultures that mankind has ever produced. But there is little the individual can do about it, because the essence of their cultural pathology revolves around the delusional idea that the existence of Israel has something to do with their problems. In short, they do not just hate Israel because they are so backward and barbaric; rather, they are backward and barbaric because they are obsessed with hatred of Israel.

Thus, the Palestinians have created a sick culture in which it is strictly impossible to realize — literally “unthinkable” — that the source of their suffering is within. A Palestinian who comes to the realization that the Jews are not the source of their problems — and is foolish enough to speak up about it — will soon find himself dangling upside down in the town sqaure with his testicles missing and a couple of lumps obstructing his breathing. Mental health is not allowed in much of the Islamic world.

There’s not much diversity allowed in the Islamic world , either. But some of the more useful idiots on the left are willing - nay, eager - to meet with and support these monsters.

In the same report noted above, World Net Daily said:

Last month, just prior to U.S. midterm elections, WND conducted a series of exclusive interviews [see WND article for this link] in which prominent Middle East terrorist leaders said they hoped Americans would sweep the Democrats into power because of the party’s position on withdrawing from Iraq - a move, the terrorists explained, that would ensure victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

The terrorists told WND an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are “tired.” They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.


Many Democrat politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

In a recent interview with CBS's "60 Minutes," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, "The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn't mean we stay there. They'll stay there as long as we're there."

Pelosi will become House speaker when the new Congress is seated in January.

WND read Pelosi's remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

Islamic Jihad's Saadi, laughing, stated, "There is no chance that the resistance will stop."

This conclusion is so clear that only the blind leftists in our country can’t see it.Or is it that they don’t care?

By what moral calculation did they arrive at the idea of meeting with Hamas? Are they that overweeningly ambitious? Do they inhabit some UN-equivalent moral universe, a world much like the one inhabited by the members of the Iraq Study Group, who think sitting down to discussions with our mortal enemies is going to lead to a good outcome?

Hamas is evil. So are the leaders of Syria and Iran. They all fervently desire and work toward the ruin of the United States. And the best defense that either these unknown Democrats or the Surrender Group can come up with is a get-together to talk things over.


upyernoz said...

um, is this a joke post? you're quoting anonymous hamas insiders and taking it as true? and quoting world news daily?

by the way, hamas and al-qaeda (both the original and "al-qaeda in iraq") have web sites and effectively post press releases. they are in arabic, but they openly talk about who they like or don't like, you just have to read arabic to follow it. there's no need to go to news sources with dubious track records to get a quote from an unnamed terrorist source for your news.

if you take those groups at their word, then bin laden endorsed bush in 2004 (he said that he thought having him as president was helpful), al-qaeda in iraq urged bush to stay the course in iraq, etc. of course, it could all just be propoganda. maybe even reverse psychology. but if you're gonna dismiss what they say openly in their web sites, then you also have to dismiss when you read third-hand accounts of what they allegedly said.

m'a salaama

Carl in Jerusalem said...

Actually, it's even worse than you put it.

The initial reports did not say that they were trying to kill the father - that came out an hour or two later and sounded like an excuse. And if you look at the evidence, it appears unlikely that they were trying to kill the father. If three kids were being driven to school and the father was in the car, the father would have been in the front. But if you look at the car, it's all shot up in back and almost unscathed in the front. The fourth person killed was a 'bystander,' and not the car's driver was one would have expected to be the case if the children were not the target. That's why I wrote that I believe that the children are the target.

As a parent, there is nothing more painful emotionally than God forbid losing a child. The senior people in the 'Palestinian Authority' are not - for the most part - the demented individuals who proudly send their kids to be suicide bombers. They are rational people who are not in a catatonic stupor from drugs or alcohol, and still have feelings for their children (you will note that they never send their own children to be suicide bombers - this is well known). I believe the children were the target.

Concerned Citizen said...

There were multiple news agencies reporting the meeting of Hamas and unnamed Democrats. On my site I listed a few additional sources including Al Jazeera who was touting it as a conspiracy.