At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe.We are in a new phase of a very old war.
I watch this guy on YouTube. I like how frank he is.
Pat's videos are a splash of cold water on one's face - short and too the point without any of the baloney.
Pat is still an optimist that a democratic awakening can turn the slide to EU-dictatorship.I, unfortunately believe that we are beyond the event horizon on this.Take this as an example - referring to the Lisbon treaty, http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/04/david-cameron-referendum-campaign-overThe Conservative campaign to hold a referendum on the Lisbon treaty is now over, David Cameron declared today.Confirming a complete U-turn on his "cast iron guarantee" that a Tory government would hold a public vote on the controversial treaty, the party chief said the Czech Republic's decision to ratify the agreement meant he could "no more hold a referendum on the treaty than ... a referendum on the sun rising in the morning.Democracy has become a sham.
I agree with doxRaven, but not only as regards Europe.Illusions of Control ContinueUpon hearing Mr. Condell confess his faith in democracy, a famous line of G.K. Chesterton came to mind.
Summing it all upMore of that medicine that doesn't workYour democratic vote will be a vote against democracy!"Peace", says PatYeah..Either Peace, or Peace, as in Religion of peace.
The modern day Winston Churchill. And just like in Winnies time, people are not listening to him.Until it is too late.
After his third insult towards religion by the 2 minute mark I gave up and shut him off.Whether he's right or wrong about the EU, I can't tell. His angry atheist approach just comes across like he's shaking a broken bottle at everyone in a barfight.
@Ernest:If you cannot stand a man's opinions based on his views towards religion, the loss is yours. If your faith is so weak that you cannot stand it being questioned/contradicted then I really doubt how much faith you really have, or if no faith at all the ability to read between the lines so you can pick out what is of interest or not, ignoring it will not make it go away.If ignoring things we do not like were to become the norm, we would be even worse off than we are right now and that carries some weight.The Trickster
I'm okay with Humanists who posit the notion that individuals have Godlike capacity if their freedom is respected. I'm not okay with the type that set up "Humanity" as a whole as the object of veneration.I get the monotheism of traditional Judaeochristianity, but I don't feel a particular attachment to it. I'm more of the opinion that the commandment to worship a Supreme God does not in any way necessitate the disparagement of other beings of similar qualities. So as long as an "atheist" believes in the god-like potential of his fellowman and the corresponding necessity of individual freedom, I don't feel theologically repulsed.Individual humans may not be the most god-like beings I've encountered, but at least they're real beings, unlike "Humanity". And making them a bit more god-like by fostering their freedom and personal dignity as sentient beings is all good with me.On the other hand, I'm not so fond of listening to old guys rant about stuff. Aesthetically, you know.Chiu Chun-Ling.
The idea of Plato's republic doesn't work, does it?
I support Mr. Condell's argument in this case but why does he have to bring his atheism into it? He says a great many true things but his stridency must put many people off.ALSO I clicked on a window after listening to him, entitled "The gathering storm".Maybe you are not aware of this but it blames the Jews for everything in a most unpleasant way. The article seems out of tune with Gates of Vienna.
@ AndreWell people are not listening to him for the simple reason (s)1. Most have never experienced Pat. I do MY bit by circulating most of the totally common sense (remember that?) videos by Pat. ALL should do the same and, like pyramid selling, the message should get around. I used to be selective about where to send. Now I take the risk of losing friends who might think that I've "lost it".2.MOST people here in the UK, and very likely everywhere, are now so selfish that they take no interest in political issues and just live for today. Like the Germans, and the German Jews,in the 1930s they will become aware when it is too late.Just saying.
I can remember British people telling me how the UK would flourish in the EU and that without the UK market, my country would be in in the Third World,it isn't.Ah, the pleasures of schadenfreude.The entire EU circus would be rather amusing expect for the possibly that the EU could infect well-run economies with its disease.
Ernest It seems you are looking for a fight with Mr. Condell. @ Trickster, good point regarding faith's fragility; most particularly as the fight to retain a semblance of freedom and democracy may indeed require an understanding of differences in freedom's genesis, man or God. Either way, freedom is the keystone of the structure. I prefer the freedom to believe in a God that Mr. Condell is free to disavow. Both he and I share the need to preserve that freedom. Unless and until he attempts to silence my faith, he and I will happily agree to disagree in re:God for the sake of all who desire freedom, self determination, and their ability to exercise said through their franchise. Cordially, Prospero
Ernest It seems you are looking for a fight with Mr. Condell. @ Trickster, good point regarding faith's fragility; most particularly as the fight to retain a semblance of freedom and democracy may indeed require an understanding of differences in freedom's genesis, man or God. Either way, freedom is the keystone of the structure. I prefer the freedom to believe in a God that Mr. Condell is free to disavow. Both he and I share the need to preserve that freedom. Unless and until he attempts to silence my faith, he and I will happily agree to disagree in re:God for the sake of all who desire freedom, self determination, and their ability to exercise said through their franchise. Cordially,Prospero
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