First They Came for the English Bloggers
by Baron Bodissey
I have said a number of times that what I do here would be illegal in some countries in Europe, and that a European citizen doing what I do can be arrested there.
Britain is such a country. Its recent laws concerning the incitement of racial and religious hatred have made illegal much of what is published in the Counterjihad blogosphere.
And now the first British blogger is about to face the Multicultural perp-walk.
Lionheart is a well-known patriotic blogger in England, and is on our blogroll. He is currently outside the UK, and has been informed that he will be arrested for stirring up racial hatred as soon as he returns home.
Here’s what he has to say about it:
Keep an eye on Lionheart’s blog, because he will be posting there concerning the progress of his case. If you’re a blogger, please post about this to help give him as much publicity as possible.
Writing letters to Her Majesty’s ambassadors might be a good idea. I’m going to look for a comprehensive list of contact emails, phone numbers, fax numbers, and addresses.
Britain’s anti-incitement laws are well-harmonized with the Framework Decision, which means that the rest of the “provinces” of the EU will have the same laws on the books when the Lisbon Treaty goes into effect and the legal systems are standardized.
This is just the beginning.
And don’t think that the United States is immune. There are people working diligently right now to get laws through Congress which are almost identical in wording to those used by the EU.
The First Amendment has become all but meaningless in the last two decades. We are at the mercy of nine old men in black robes who sit in summary judgment on our freedoms.
The election of a Democrat as President along with a Democrat Congress could topple freedom of speech here as surely as it has been toppled in England.
Hat tip: JEH.
Britain is such a country. Its recent laws concerning the incitement of racial and religious hatred have made illegal much of what is published in the Counterjihad blogosphere.
And now the first British blogger is about to face the Multicultural perp-walk.
Lionheart is a well-known patriotic blogger in England, and is on our blogroll. He is currently outside the UK, and has been informed that he will be arrested for stirring up racial hatred as soon as he returns home.
Here’s what he has to say about it:
The cultural weapon in the hands of the modern Jihad within Great Britain, silencing the opposition using our own laws against us — The Dumb Filthy Kaffir’s as the Moslem would say to his children behind closed doors.- - - - - - - - -
What has become of my homeland, the land my forefathers fought and died for on the battlefields of the world when one of their children is forced into the position of facing years in prison for standing up for what is right and just within British society.
At least my words of truth have obviously now reached people’s eyes and ears, with the powers that be now intent on silencing me — Third World Tyranny in a supposed 21st Century democracy!
[…]
Who have I killed, who have I threatened to kill? No one, all I have done is written about my reality on a computer screen, and now I face going to prison in my own country for standing up for myself and others.
What has happened to those who threatened my life or who have killed my friends — NOTHING — This is British justice in the 21st Century — Shove your British Labour justice because it is worthless to the Englishman whose country this is, whose country you have destroyed.
Keep an eye on Lionheart’s blog, because he will be posting there concerning the progress of his case. If you’re a blogger, please post about this to help give him as much publicity as possible.
Writing letters to Her Majesty’s ambassadors might be a good idea. I’m going to look for a comprehensive list of contact emails, phone numbers, fax numbers, and addresses.
Britain’s anti-incitement laws are well-harmonized with the Framework Decision, which means that the rest of the “provinces” of the EU will have the same laws on the books when the Lisbon Treaty goes into effect and the legal systems are standardized.
This is just the beginning.
And don’t think that the United States is immune. There are people working diligently right now to get laws through Congress which are almost identical in wording to those used by the EU.
The First Amendment has become all but meaningless in the last two decades. We are at the mercy of nine old men in black robes who sit in summary judgment on our freedoms.
The election of a Democrat as President along with a Democrat Congress could topple freedom of speech here as surely as it has been toppled in England.
Hat tip: JEH.
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Baron Bodissey | 1/04/2008 09:08:00 AM
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That, my friends, is real fascism. Not some bogeyman, some imagined threat, but a real, genuine fascism that distracted the world with scary stories about phantom nazis while it inserted itself into the political infrastructures of europe. The worst part is, we believed it. Every last word. The obsession with the nazi past and the bogus threat of neo-nazis blinded us to the threat we faced. In the last decade any voice raised against the rise of the EU was met with cries of "we bring peace!" as the EU claimed to have prevented a return to the "petty nationalism" of the early 20th century, as if mere national confidence were enough to start wars.
Of course the atrocities of the past have to be studied so we can learn not to do them again. As many have said through the ages, ignore the past and you doom yourself to repeat it... but, by the same token, it is impossible to prevent others repeating that past if you are not looking at the present too. The dictum meant us to glance over our shoulder at what came before and make note of it, not that we should walk backwards.
And of course, little or no interest over at the "counter-jihad" blog LGF.
Asleep at the switch, or busy high-fiving CJ to actually understand that these European fascists they've made their bed with have completely fooled them.
Of course, I'm sure Oyvind Strommen, now a registered LGF contributor, approves of this threat of incarceration.
How pathetic.
Well, I intend to fight even if they don't. I'm writing the British ambassador this weekend. Maybe not much else I can do, but still...
- Sodra
England has never had Freedom of Speech.
Also, things are no where near as bad here in the USA. I would remind you that nothing is quite as unattractive as hysteria.
Also, we're not going to crumble if the worst happens and DHIMMIcRATs sweep the elections. If that happens, your worries about our economy will overshadow any First Amendment concerns.
Yes, you hurt your argument terribly by the hysterical comments about the First Amendment at the end.
Well, this is it.
An aphorism: "In a socialist society facts are not permitted. Facts havea certain value and can make people unequal. For that reason there shall be no facts."
The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - Web Reconnaissance for 01/04/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often.
The shows true enemy is liberalism, not Islam. Thomas Paine, who knew Islam very well, explained to us that evils, like poisons, have their uses, and there are diseases which no other remedy can reach. Islam reveals the great damage we have done to ourselves through liberalism.
Paul and cf --
You are quite right that things are not as bad here. But 10 years ago in the UK free speech was not that different than it was in the USA. Things can change very quickly.
What is dangerous here is the utter disregard for the Constitution, which now means what the nine old men in DC say it means. For example, I refer you to Kelo,or campaign finance laws, or affirmative action laws (now renewed with a 25-year sunset, thanks to our friend Sandra Day O'Connor), or the abortion decisions. The justices have twisted the Constitution into a pretzel to ram these things through.
If Scalia were to die next January and Hillary were to appoint his successor, "hate speech" restrictions might well pass constitutional muster. Conyers and CAIR have been working on them for several years.
This is not an absolutely insane fancy; it's quite possible.
Which is what I meant in my post.
And the Republicans are only a hair's breadth better. Consider McCain on the First Amendment or Giuliani on the Second.
We are no longer a nation under the rule of law. This has been true at least since Lyndon's time, and probably all the way back to FDR.
We are ruled by a presbyter of judges, and their feelings determine the outline of our liberties.
This stems from the perverted issue of so called ‘hate crimes’. Violent crimes for the history of mankind has been the outward expression of hatred. One does not murder and rape that which they love. The problem is is that it has evolved into a get whitey law. It is what it has always meant for, to stop white hatred and white identity and isolationism. Look at the Jena 6. Hate crimes can only be committed by Caucasians and people of color or of foreign origin, especially the third world. None can be considered racists by this, the largest hate group in the world, western liberalism.
Take Mark Steyn, he is being persecuted for his comments against the jihadists and what is ironic, his most intemperate remarks are those that quote directly Imams and other Muslim leaders. National Review Online has taken up this cause with great ferocity.
“First they came for the redneck trolls, and I did not speak out because I was not a redneck troll. Then they came for the male chauvinist pigs, and I did not speak out because I was not a male chauvinist pig. Then they came for Mark Steyn, and I did not speak out because I was not Mark Steyn...”
And of course, little or no interest over at the "counter-jihad" blog LGF.
Asleep at the switch, or busy high-fiving CJ to actually understand that these European fascists they've made their bed with have completely fooled them.
Of course, I'm sure Oyvind Strommen, now a registered LGF contributor, approves of this threat of incarceration.
Both neo-Nazis and nanny-state socialists can be against free speech. We've already seen what Nazis do.
Oyvind Strommen is dead on about Vlaams Blok. That doesn't have anything to do with Lionheart.
There are commercial forms of attacks on free speech as well. The web content filtering software Websense filters out the Gates of Vienna but not MoveOn.org. Go figure.
Both neo-Nazis and nanny-state socialists can be against free speech. We've already seen what Nazis do.
Oyvind Strommen is dead on about Vlaams Blok. That doesn't have anything to do with Lionheart.
Simply claiming someone is a Nazi does not a Nazi make. Oyvind Strommen is absolutely wrong about the Vlaams issue, as he is about a number of other issues. He is about as diametrically opposed to the counter-jihadi cause as one can be, and he is still regarded with honor simply because he tows CJ's party line.
And of course it has everything to do with Lionheart. Oyvind Strommen and his ilk would see the same censorship applied to their political opposites as this EU law is now doing to Lionheart.
Just ask him if the political party should be banned.
That speaks volumes.
- Sodra
I posit that the very concept of a hate crime embodied in law is an abrogation of the 1st amendment. If I am bludgeoning someone to death, does it matter that I call them a nappy hedded ho in the process? Everything else can be considered violence or the destruction of property.
No, we still have the First Amendment. But if Hillary Stalin-Clinton wins this year, and takes office next year, she will probably have an even larger Congressional Demonratic majority. Combined with the Republicans who are weak on conservative/constitutional principals, like the author of the McCain-Feingold act, the two women senators from Maine, well, a President Clinton will have a near filibuster proof majority in the Senate.
Supreme Court Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Anthony Kennedy have already expressed an opinion that international law and precedent should be used to adjudicate SCOTUS decisions. Ginsburg was the chief abortion rights litigator with the ACLU, a communist front organization set up to use our own Constitution to destroy this country as a capitalist constitutional democratic republic. More ACLU lawyers would probably be nominated and confirmed to the SCOTUS. Hillary and Congress would then be free to pass unconstitutional laws, and if they have a majority of fellow travellers on the Court, unconstitutional laws will be ruled constitutional.
Hillary will almost certainly want to shut down conservative talk radio, as it provides an alternative to the liberal leaning newspapers and televison news reporting. Blogs could be next.
I hope that the American people will be smart enough to reject Hillary or Obama, because if the Demonrat Party, now an ideological descendant of the Soviet Communist Party through Henry Wallace and the unsuccessful 'Progressive Party' split in 1948, and later through Progressive Party volunteer George McGovern taking control of the party machinery in 1972, gain control of all three branches of the Federal government this country will be in serious trouble.
England has never had Freedom of Speech.
Either you are foreign and don't know, or you are a product of the comprehensive education system. Either way I can't precisely fault you for saying what is perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I have heard all year, but I do want to correct you.
We do have freedom of speech. Our freedom of speech was guaranteed along with all our other rights by Magna Carta, which required the monarchy to respect the ancient freedoms of the pre-existent anglo-saxon polity. The Bill of Rights set this freedom in stone. NEither of these facts are tought in schools. The constitutional documents of the United Kingdom have been suppressed for over a century, with the constant refrain that we have an "unwritten constitution", or that we have an "institutional" government, both of which are frankly a load of tosh. What we don't have is a document calling itself a constitution; we still have constitutional documents.
Freedom of speech, the right to bear weapons and the freedom to move anywhere within the Kingdom without interference by agents of the king are our guaranteed rights, confirmed in multiple treaties between the monarchy and the people, but they have all been overridden and ignored by successive governments because the people have not even heard about them, or the documents that guarantee them, for the last century.
The elites believe that they can control the beast. All they need is a little time. They will coddle them to their bosom and protect them from those horrible men. They have learned to protect the weak from those horrible men and eventually, the children of the beasts, weaned from the government teat will sit on the lap of their mothers, the nanny state, and together they will rule by force of numbers and those horrible men will breed no more. In this way Hispanic Catholics will share cause with secular elite for the purpose of building the socialist state. Muslim fascists will play their part as well. It is necessary to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
Why the dig at the Catholic church? The Right Reverend Rowan Williams is a far bigger toady to Islam, than almost any other Christian leader.
How dare those power hungry fools seek to silence me or anyone else like me from speaking the truth for the sake of our children, grandchildren and the future of our homeland, who do they think they are, they are nothing more than mere men like the rest of us, just in positions of power over us that they totally abuse against us, look at the treason that has happened within Brussels by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, handing over the Sovereignty of our Nation into foreign hands - Treason is the only word for it yet no one is arresting them, no they are arresting me for writing a few words of truth on a blog.
You cannot hide from you actions within the Catholic Church.
Annoymouse- The Hispanic Catholics who came to this country fleeing Communism, like the Cubans, and many of the multi-generational ones who have found a middle class existence, don't vote Democrat automatically. Of course, illegals, who don't respect our laws, will tend to gravitate to the party offering the biggest handout.
El Paso County in Texas, 90% Hispanic, went for George W Bush when he ran for re-election as governor of Texas.
They are very much like the blacks, who also have leaders who are more concerned with their personal enrichment and power than the well being of the people they purport to represent.
Ed
I am not digging on the Catholic Church in any way. I do find it ironic that here in America that the secular/atheistic liberals are inviting all of Latin America to the USA who are predominately practicing, breeding Roman Catholics. As a Christian I have more kinship with Catholics than devoted atheist socialists but that it the nature of this conflict of civilizations. Find a common cause from without your country and use that power to reinforce your sides argument. Divide and conquer.
THE head of the worldwide Anglican Church, the archbishop of Canterbury, will reportedly mark the third anniversary of the September 11 attacks by praising Islam in an address from the pulpit of an Egyptian mosque.
Rowan Williams had accepted an invitation to speak at Al-Azhar University in Cairo, considered by many to be the Muslim world's most important centre of learning, Britain's Sunday Times said today.
He would speak of the common ground between Christianity and Islam with their shared inheritance as "children of Abraham", the report said.
Dhimmi Watch
Did he get a letter or something? I don't see anything about it in that blog post.
annoy mouse- talking about Lion Heart's gratuitous swipe at Roman Catholicism.
No need for it. The CoE is going dhimmi faster than about any Christian church I can think of. Not sure if he is CoE, Lionheart may be a more Bible based Christian, which is fine, but Labour's embrace of Islam seems to have little to nothing to do with any Christian church.
i have to sound a note of caution here. we do not yet know the specifics of the charges due to be brought against lionheart. furthermore, we only have his word that the current state of affairs is as described on his site. of course i am not suggesting that he is deceiving us, but until there are more concrete developments, is it not rather too early to be discussing this in such apocalyptic tones? the preparation the baron speaks of in terms of letter-writing campaigns, etc., is all to the good, but i am not sure the roof is coming down just yet.
i yield to no one in my contempt for the stuffed shirts of the EU and their desperate muslim brown-nosing initiatives. but the picture of the muslim woman as a skeleton with a bomb representing her unborn child is rather off-colour, is it not? are all muslim women undead breeding machines whose children will want to kill us? the demographic peril that islam presents us with is something that i have written about myself, as have many others in far more public forums than GoV, without being thrown into prison. are there any lines that should not be crossed in this debate?
the picture on lionheart's website is akin to wartime propaganda (think of the tentacles of the japanese octopus reaching across the whole world), and such propaganda is an essential part of fighting a war. but lionheart does not have the authority to declare war, and must expect conflict with the state if, however unwittingly, he seems to be doing so.
given my own biases on this subject, i hope nothing comes of the charges and lionheart remains at liberty to continue blogging. but even i get a bad whiff of something looking at that picture. are there any regular readers of GoV who have not caught a glimpse of something murderous and malevolent inside themselves in the face of what we are opposing? i certainly have, and i am not ready to embrace it just yet, something i think i would have to do to remain nonchalant about that picture.
i cannot help but think of the hijabbed muslim woman who used to work in a post office i went to in london. she was friendly, always smiling, perfectly pleasant. lionheart wants me to look at her as a lich bent on destroying us via differential reproduction. i am not prepared to go there yet. there will be plenty of opportunity to jump into the abyss later. why go now? is the water so warm in there?
ED
I am not digging on the Hispanic either for that matter. I live on the border in San Diego and lately American tourists have been getting robbed and raped by Mexican police officials. Our government is ashamed of our wealth and dare not stand up for US citizens. There is a war at the border. A real war where men with assault rifles are in control of what used to be US sovereign territory. US government agencies are pulling back because the situation is no longer tenable. How this is supposed to relate to the thread at hand, free speech, is that western governments have made it their job to protect the third world from the predations of free men in the place of their birth. They call this nativism. If you can deconstruct that term it would say everything as to why this is germane to this thread. Our elected leaders have a radical vision of what the new world order is going to be and us traditionalists, with our command of the facts and command of the language are making it hard for them. That is why they are inviting illegals who are less politically active into the USA. There are too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
No doubt, the Demonratic party welcomes citizenship for illegal aliens for the same reason they want to give the franchise back to convicted felons. More votes for the Dems.
Same reason they favor motor voter, and striking down ID requirements to vote: Voter fraud favors the Dems.
Bob Dornan lost his House seat because of voter fraud, mostly illegal aliens voting. The Washington state governor won her race by voter fraud.
“are all muslim women undead breeding machines whose children will want to kill us?”
It would sure seem so. If I do not speak for the state then I must be silent? I like the cartoon. I like all cartoons. It is reality that is offensive to my senses. What is it about free speech that you find so abhorrent?
I had to fess up to the reality that those who say they are at war with us are at face value at war with us. I do not like the idea. Ten years ago I thought we were all building a great new beautiful tomorrow but now realize that we must give up our vision of the future or go back to basic principles and fight for that vision. In short, I decided not to give up.
El,
I suppose it all depends on your own moral tipping point that must be crossed prior to engaging in resistance.
It is a proven fact that third-world immigrants to the Western world are breeding at a faster pace than native Westerners. That is a demographic ticking bomb, unless of course you aspire to live in a third-world nation centuries of their kind have passed on to the modern world.
So what would it take before you're ready to take action? Due to the very clear demographic shift apparent in the last 50 years and the subsequent birth rates any meaningful resistance to this Balkanization must occur, and must occur soon, if it is to be successful.
As we have seen in recent demographical studies, second and third generation immigrants feel much more closely attached to their ancestral homes, religions, and customs than even those fresh off the boat.
Just because the woman in the hijab smiles at you in the bank does not mean her grandchildren would balk at enslaving your own under an Islamic-based society, if not a full-blown Caliphate.
I have come to the conclusion that Islam has no place in the Western world. It has never been associated with any good introduced into the Western world, and I personally feel it is fundamentally incompatible with democratic rule. There isn't a single Islamic nation on earth, even the more progressive ones, that I would consider a fantastic place to live and raise children.
And they've had centuries to build their own failed civilizations.
In my opinion, conflict is inevitable, it's only a question of when, of what scale, and what the balance of power the battlefield will take when it does. This isn't just a personal hunch - this has been the case throughout ALL of recorded human history.
- Sodra
El, yes, it is propaganda but if you hadn't noticed we're already at war, it just hasn't escalated to the point of warfare between states.
I understood that picture to represent the timebomb of muslim demographics. The "other" bomb.
More to the point you seem to have missed the fact that simply saying this, putting up a picture like that, is now illegal in this country, it now carries criminal penalties. Facing criminal charges for saying something, not even incitement to violence, but simply that muslims are dangerous... there's no way to spin that as a "lets wait and see" thing. It's wrong. The state has no business regulating what a man might say.
I can't help but speculate, if it were a jew in the picture, instead of a muslim, would they be signing a contract for him at the BBC already?
Thank you for highlighting this. I have put it on my site - www.anorak.co.uk.
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I've written an entry in German on my blog and kicked it over to the biggest German bloggers.