Tuesday, June 03, 2008

Chaldean Christians in Germany…Meet Your Turkish Neighbors

Gates of Vienna has written about the plight of Christians in Iraq before, beginning in 2006. You can find the stories here, here, here, and here.

Christians are for the most part hated in Iraq. They tend to be better educated and from the higher classes. As a result, they often serve as scapegoats for angry Iraqis, who have even crucified Christian Iraqi children.

Chaldean church in IraqIn the years of the war, Christian refugees have spent their time shuffling from Damascus, where they are tolerated, back home again, or out of the Middle East all together. Some have gone to Iran, where they feel safer, at least for a while. Others have died, often in their churches, specifically targeted for their religion.

Today, someone sent us a story on the Christian Iraqi refugees that Germany has taken in:

...Reports compiled by the [Foreign Ministry department -- headed by …Frank-Walter Steinmeier, a member of the Social Democratic Party (SPD) -- paint a grim picture of the situation for Christians in Iraq. Only 400,000 of the 800,000 Christians who were living in Iraq in 2005 remain there today. “Threats, murder and abduction are part of daily life for Christians in Iraq,” says the German government’s human rights commissioner, Günter Nooke, a member of the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU). According to Bishop Wolfgang Huber, the head of the Evangelical Church in Germany, Christians in Iraq face violence that is the equivalent of “ethnic cleanings and genocide in other places.”
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Huber has quietly joined forces with representatives of the Catholic Church to campaign for the establishment of a German humanitarian assistance program, and his efforts have apparently met with success. This week Erika Steinbach, human rights spokeswoman for the CDU and the Christian Social Union (CSU) joint parliamentary group, plans to argue for a contingent solution that would involve the rapid acceptance of a large number of refugees in Germany.

The Interior Ministry has already taken an important humanitarian step. In a decree dated May 15, 2007, Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU) ordered that asylum already granted to Iraqis should not be revoked “for the time being.” It could be assumed that Christians from central and southern Iraq, Schäuble wrote, were being “generally persecuted as a group by non-government parties in Iraq.” This provides the roughly 2,500 refugees already in Germany with the certainty that they will not be sent back to Iraq, at least for now.

In a few days, however, there will be far more at stake within the Human Rights Commission in the German parliament, the Bundestag. The churches want lawmakers to guarantee the long-term right of asylum and settlement for a much larger number of refugees -- between 20,000 and 30,000 Christians who are part of the educated upper and middle classes in Iraq. There is enough capacity in Germany, argues Bishop Huber, “to provide, in collaboration with European partners, a relevant number of Iraqi refugees with the opportunity to settle here.” According to a spokesman of Interior Minister Schäuble, the government “is thinking about a contingent solution.” Human rights commissioner Nooke also favors Germany accepting the Iraqi refugees.

What are not mentioned are possible fissions and fractures that will arise between the Iraqi Chaldean Christians and the numerous Turkish immigrants already present in Germany for some generations. The harsh treatment of Christians in Turkey, and the contempt in which they are held by most Turks, could prove to be a problem for the peaceful assimilation of the new arrivals.


Hat tip: Insubria

10 comments:

randian said...

As long as German authorities are willing to enforce German law they should be ok. If German authorities have become as craven as Dutch authorities are, they're screwed.

pasta said...

Maybe I am missing something, but it looks to me as if the kafir countries sacrifice the lives of their soldiers, spend enormous amounts of their money and take in refugees into their countries in order to help the muslims to make the Iraq kafir-free. Can it get more absurd?

At the very least, the west should carve an Israel out of Iraq, in which the Iraqi Christians can live in peace. This would win us a reliable long-term ally in the region, too. Why is this option not even being considered?

latté island said...

pasta, that's exactly right. It just occurred to me...why not do a population exchange, Israel trades their Palestinians for Iraqi Christians. I know it'll never happen, but wouldn't it solve a lot of problems?

Zenster said...

pasta: Maybe I am missing something, but it looks to me as if the kafir countries sacrifice the lives of their soldiers, spend enormous amounts of their money and take in refugees into their countries in order to help the muslims to make the Iraq kafir-free. Can it get more absurd?

You aren't missing a thing, pasta and, no, it can't get more absurd. You're right on the money. My own immediate reaction was to be appalled that America has facilitated Muslim dominance. If the countries we liberate cannot actively promote genuine freedom, then they have no right to self-rule.

The Cold War saw America necessarily ally itself with some pretty unsavory governments in the fight against communism. That we are at war with Islam and simultaneously advancing Muslim agendas simply goes beyond comprehension.

This is cultural relativism brought to its logical conclusion of turning our foreign policy into a suicide pact.

Profitsbeard said...

This is what happens when you blindly encourage "democracy" and forget that such mob rule, in a region thoroughly brainwashed from birth to consider Islamic imperialism to be the norm, will end inevitably up instituting an intolerant, brutal theocracy.

Without a foundation of secular laws and secular government and an ironclad Bill of Rights that guarantees freedom of speech, press, belief and behavior, nothing is gained by freeing a mass of retrograde, anti-liberty fanatics by one more "holy" tyranny.

Not worth one drop of our blood or cent of our treasure.

Profitsbeard said...

TYPO-
...but [not by] one more "holy" tyranny.

The Poster Formerly Known as Gordon said...

It's interesting to note that the Brussels Journal crowd are probably almost as hostile to Iraqi Christians immigrating to Europe as they are to Iraqi Muslims.

Any comments, Archonix, Afonso, and other regulars?

The Poster Formerly Known as Gordon said...

Or are 400,000 Iraqi Christians to be sacrificed in order to prove a point that the Middle East should not be exclusively Islamic?

Consul-At-Arms said...

I've quoted you and linked to you here: http://consul-at-arms.blogspot.com/2008/06/re-chaldean-christians-in-germanymeet.html

Graham Dawson (Archonix) said...

Gordon: Reading the article and associated comments I believe you are referring to, it's clear that the "brussels journal crowd" are rather determined to not actually be the unified groupthinking blob you seem to want them to be.

So the question becomes, then, what are you actually trying to prove? Rather than drop insinuations, why not simply state your point? I have an idea of what it is but I shall leave it up to you to demonstrate it.