From Reuters:
Malaysia’s “Obedient Wives” Anger Rights Groups
(Reuters Life!) — A Malaysian group urging wives to avoid marital problems by fulfilling their husbands’ sexual desires like prostitutes has angered politicians and women’s rights groups, the New Straits Times reported on Sunday.
The Obedient Wives Club, which was set up by a group of Muslim women, said domestic violence, infidelity and prostitution stemmed from a lack of belief in God and a failure of women to satisfy their husbands.
The club’s president, Rohaya Mohamed, said it was open to women of all religions and would conduct seminars on how to be a good wife as well as offer marriage counseling.
“A man married to a woman who is as good or better than a prostitute in bed has no reason to stray. Rather than allowing him to sin, a woman must do all she can to ensure his desires are met,” Rohaya told the newspaper.
Note: the presidency of the Obedient Wives Club has a Mohammed Coefficient of 100%.
Hat tip: AC.
17 comments:
This fits in perfectly with the "new" feminism: slutwalks!
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/05/washpo-writer-slutwalks-future-of-feminism/
Tilth.
Will there be a famous Muslima sex therapist, "Dr. Ruthless"...?
Imagine the worldwide lefty horror and outrage if anyone but muslims did this.
But they are noble savages, so allowed to continue their barbarity unopposed.
Given my treatment at the hands of the empowered wimminz of western civilization, and the ongoing brutality of the family courts against my brothers, I find this particular article to be amusing in the extreme.
A woman actually wanting to and being taught to uphold her marriage vows and her half of marriage contract? Oh yes, heaven forbid.
That it comes from a credo of filth such as Islam is an irony of the most extreme caliber.
Okay, so, a man's lustful desire for unhealthy/immoral sexual gratification with a woman should be sated by women subjecting themselves to degrading sexual behavior?
Sounds a lot like the hedonistic Romans who would prostitute themselves on the steps of whatever idol they happened to worship to raise funds for their temple.
While I agree that men and women should seek to gratify each other within marriage. I heartily disagree with the ideas suggesting that women should have to debase themselves as prostitutes to accomplish their so-called marital duties.
Maybe what needs to happen is they need to re-think what a marriage is and what expectations are mutually uplifting and supportive. (healthy and moral as well)
I am at a loss for words, because I am going out on a limb here and saying that if they quit practicing FGM the men might not stray at all.
These poor ladies are being brainwashed into thinking infidelity is their fault. I seriously doubt it would matter if they did meet all their husband's demands. Women are still inferior in that culture and when that changes to being loved and cherished instead of feared and oppressed, then there might be happiness and fidelity.
You don't need a sex therapist to tell you that...
@ Fortress: I am so sorry that that has happened to you. I was raised with the idea and example of love, trust and fidelity in marriage and have been happily married for 25+ years. I do promote the idea of fidelity in marriage, but it takes two to ensure that it happens.
Okay, so, a man's lustful desire for unhealthy/immoral sexual gratification with a woman should be sated by women subjecting themselves to degrading sexual behavior?
All heterosexual sex is rape. Didn't they tell you that? Any time a man seeks to penetrate a woman in any fashion, especially with his phallus, then he's engaging in a degrading and damaging act on the female in today's western society.
Unless you're one of those bad boy alpha thugs. Then they'll line up around the block and do things that would make the most deranged succubus from Hell blush. And they'll do it while married, make the good guy hubby raise any children from this, and be proud about it while never telling him.
Eventually they get bored with being married, divorce the chump, go ride the alpha staff carousel, while forcing said chump to pay alimony and child support. Which is the best option he can hope for since he usually is denied access to his kids, is saddled with mounds of legal debt, typically has a few false rape and child molestation charges to fend off, and after all this, if he can't pay, off to debtors prison he goes. And that's not counting that before marriage he'll be treated to a listless screed of feminist propaganda, during marriage find out that said woman has no interest in sex (with him), and after...well, I already noted what happens after.
Unless, again, you're that alpha bad boy, then they'll toss all that at you, with a nod and a wink, after which they'll, again, contort themselves in ways that should not be humanly possible to rogure you as harder than Supergirl. Any children she has you won't need to worry about; she'll just have her walking ATM err...good guy boyfriend/hubby/future sucker look after for you. And they will too, the morons.
Immoral and degrading? Dude, you're going to have to explain that one a great deal more when referencing western women. To them, that's just having sex with a joe average beta chump. Everything else with bad boy thug alpha is empowering and uplifting; a celebration of freedom and womanhood.
That a woman would want to actually please the man she married in bed and tell others how to do so? Preposterous. That the idea comes from the poisonous ideology known as Islam? Completely hilarious if you like gallows humor.
I am so sorry that that has happened to you. I was raised with the idea and example of love, trust and fidelity in marriage and have been happily married for 25+ years. I do promote the idea of fidelity in marriage, but it takes two to ensure that it happens.
Dude, I got of REAL easy compared to most others. To this day, I thank the gods that it did not go the way it most likely should have gone...like it has gone for so many western men.
Most men WERE raised that way, with the values you ascribe. Women? Nope, they're taught to take, take, take, take anymore. That they're entitled to everything without putting forth the effort to do anything.
As a word of caution to you. Your user name tells me you're likely female. You have power in the current society backed up by the guns of the state over your man that is unparalleled in history, except during the fall of Rome. On a whim, you could destroy his life, and just because you've been married 25 years, is no guarantee that one day you may wake up and decide to screw him over. This is what happens VASTLY more often now than the latter. If you truly believe in what you say, educate yourself as to your nature and what it means. Most women have been lied to all their lives, and can't understand why they feel or think the way they do; and every woman does, make no mistake. To understand and control your tendencies will greatly reduce the likely hood of getting bored one day and just up an leaving. Even after 25 years.
It's something we men have ground into us from day one. Though we are waking up to see just where it takes us. Slavery and death of the soul and body. God help us all.
My nature? LOL. My husband was on active duty for 22 years. I raised the kids, taught the kids, ran his house, ensured that his overseas assignments were trouble-free on my end. He could go and do his duty because I had his back.
While I am genuinely sorry that you got a raw deal, and you won't get an argument from me that some women can be selfish, that doesn't follow that all women are that way, nor does it follow that all men are cads.
He is retired now. As to telling me that I might do a number on him, you don't know me, and are way out of line in even suggesting it or telling me to educate myself as to my nature.
You have a chip on your shoulder and I think someday some lovely young lady who truly cares about you and not what you can give her will catch you off guard and knock it off.
My nature? LOL. My husband was on active duty for 22 years. I raised the kids, taught the kids, ran his house, ensured that his overseas assignments were trouble-free on my end. He could go and do his duty because I had his back.
Well, I'd like to assume you're telling the truth. I'd like to, but I've seen too much to assume that. If you have, and you already have a good idea of what and why you feel, you don't need to prove yourself to me.
While I am genuinely sorry that you got a raw deal, and you won't get an argument from me that some women can be selfish, that doesn't follow that all women are that way, nor does it follow that all men are cads.
NAWALT. Look it up. It's a false argument, also a form of shaming language. While technically true, it tries to imply that I've simply hit a few bad ones...yeah, me and millions other like me. The only risks a man of reasonable intelligence should make are calculated ones. If one in ten girls were like that, it would still be far too many to use the NAWALT argument with. It's more like 7 or 8 in 10, and that's just insanity.
He is retired now. As to telling me that I might do a number on him, you don't know me, and are way out of line in even suggesting it or telling me to educate myself as to my nature.
If I am, you don't need to prove it to me. I'm irrelevant to that situation; you'd be above that. But am I really wrong? Experience and observation tell me otherwise. Am I wrong about you? Only your actions can say that, and not your words. And only your actions toward your husband, again, I'm irrelevant to that situation.
You have a chip on your shoulder and I think someday some lovely young lady who truly cares about you and not what you can give her will catch you off guard and knock it off.
My god, do women have a hand book they read from? I've even heard this one from men (divorced two or three times and impoverished men at that...you'd think they'd learn by now). It's quite insulting to myself and to the millions of men who believed the same, and yet...well, I've already described their fate. I've already described the fallacy of the NAWALT argument. If she managed to knock the chip off, I'd be constantly looking behind me to see where the knife was going to come from. This is the reality of the western woman. Why not head over to The Spearhead. Spend some time just watching instead of talking. Read the posts. Read the comments. Check out the linked sites. SEE what it is I refer to.
You probably still won't understand...so few women and men (even the ones who've lived it) do. But that is changing.
Perhaps that will explain why I find the original post so amusing too.
Good grief, I have never even heard of the Spearhead.
I am not trying to prove anything to you, but as I say that not all women are greedy, grasping harpies, and that I have been happily married, you point out that if such is the case, then I have nothing to prove to you. Just because there is a site devoted to feminist drivel, doesn't mean every female on the planet reads it, or is even aware of its existence, or cares.
It would be a fallacy for me to say all men are oppressive, and to cite a PUA site as proof.
Peace out.
Christian women believe this also. Go to the forums on themarriagebed.com and do some reading.
Men don't always stray because their wife is not up to standard. Many men stray simply because they want something new. That simple. I have a friend who strays and his wife is a tip top mormon wife. She does it all and more. He strays for ego, conquest, and variety.
a5dfc91c-3343-11e0-9fe8-000f20980440: Many men stray simply because they want something new.
Please do not use the word "men" to describe cheating slimeballs who break their own marriage vows.
Real men don't cheat and neither do they need "something new" or any other crap related to "ego, conquest, and variety".
Saying that men should be expected to cheat on their spouse infantilizes them in the exact same way that expecting Muslim men to rape uncovered women infantilizes them as well.
There is such a thing as personal responsibility, no matter how often post-modern halfwits try to tell you otherwise. It has always been that way. The ethics and morals involved represent a linchpin of social cohesion and it is the absence of these same ethics and morals that is responsible for a vast portion of this world's woes.
Your friend is an idiot. If he strays, it is because he mistakenly believes he can have his cake and eat it too.
The sanctity of the family should never be put at risk for the sake of adventure. Your friend's wife will wake up one day, and I doubt at this point anyone would blame her for taking that cad to the cleaners. Why? Because he lied to her, just like that slime Weiner. I think his girlfriend expressing outrage over his lying to her is...I have no words to describe it, and his wife is pregnant. He is a cad. So is John Edwards.
They are not role models, they are cretins of the first stripe. They are not gentlemen. They are animals and use 'adventure' and 'conquest' as an excuse. I don't care what religion a married couple is. If they believe in God, and dishonor their marriage vows, there is a special circle of hell just for them.
I'm far more concerned about the damage Weiner's Muslim wife --
Huma Abedin -- can cause our society than I am of Weiner's promiscuity.
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