Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Stresses in the Peaceable Kingdom

The current Dutch government’s alliance with Geert Wilders and the PVV has not all been smooth sailing, at least not for the two parties that make up the governing coalition. Mr. Wilders’ statements about Mohammed have now landed the government in hot water with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Here’s the story from De Telegraaf, as translated by our Dutch correspondent H. Numan. The article is followed by the translator’s commentary:

Trouble with the Saudis Because of Wilders

The Hague — The Dutch ambassador in Riyadh had to clarify for the Saudi authorities statements made by PVV leader Geert Wilders. This is reported by sources in The Hague. The Saudis are furious about the statements he made concerning the prophet Mohammed.

The politician wrote at the end of March in an article that the prophet Mohammed suffered from a ‘brain tumor’ which would give him delusions. Wilders wanted to start a debate about the true nature of the prophet and ‘unmask’ him at the same time.

That infuriated the Saudis, who demanded clarification from the Dutch government, as now seems evident. Ambassador Ron Strikker spoke about the affair with authorities in Riyadh. The [Dutch] Foreign Office wanted to avoid publicizing the affair.

Yesterday minister Verhagen (Economic Affairs) visited the Islamic kingdom. Amongst others, he spoke with his colleague Al-Naimi, who as minister controls the vast quantities of Saudi oil. The Wilders affair was not addresses, emphasized a spokesman.

The chill in relationships was removed after the soothing words of Strikker, but other sources said serious attention was given anyway, as the Saudis likely would address the affair once more.

Wilders hoped his words about the prophet Mohammed would have the effect of increasing apostasy amongst the Muslims worldwide.

At the same time the statements forced minister Rosenthal (Foreign Office) to explain to foreign authorities the government’s political cooperation with the PVV.

Commentary b. H. Numan:

The ambassador should only have asked two questions, rather than crawl around like a dhimmi:

1. “What exactly do you not understand about an independent parliamentarian, not a member of the government, expressing his own opinion, in an independent country where expressing an opinion is a basic right?”
2. “Kindly explain to me how it is possible that a government that allows the death sentence for witchcraft, marriages between octogenarians and infants under ten, and forces little girls to be burned alive in school for want of a correct dress has the gumption to interfere in the affairs of other nations?”

Also observe that the only thing missing is the (PBUH) after Mo.

The penultimate paragraph is not correct. I don’t recall Wilders ever making such a statement. He is much to clever to do that.

10 comments:

john in cheshire said...

Just to restate my support for Mr Wilders. As for muslims, I wouldn't pee on their shoes if they were on fire.

Zenster said...

“Kindly explain to me how it is possible that a government that allows the death sentence for witchcraft, marriages between octogenarians and infants under ten, and forces little girls to be burned alive in school for want of a correct dress has the gumption to interfere in the affairs of other nations?” [emphasis added]

Thank you, H. Numan, for keeping alive memory of the 2002 fire at Intermediate School No. 31 for girls.

This one crime exemplifies, in so many ways, Saudi Arabia's hideous degradation of women and how arrogant mutawwa'in ("morals police") caused the needless deaths of innocent women and girls. Some excepts from the linked article:

Eyewitnesses, including civil defense officers, reported that several members of the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (mutawwa'in, in Arabic) interfered with rescue efforts because the fleeing students were not wearing the obligatory public attire (long black cloaks and head coverings) for Saudi girls and women.

... The report noted that mutawwa'in were at the school's main gate and, "intentionally obstructed the efforts to evacuate the girls. This resulted in the increased number of casualties." The religious police reportedly tried to block the entry of Civil Defense officers into the building. "We told them that the situation was dangerous and it was not the time to discuss religious issues, but they refused and started shouting at us," Arab News quoted Civil Defense officers as saying.

... "Whenever the girls got out through the main gate, these people forced them to return via another. Instead of extending a helping hand for the rescue work, they were using their hands to beat us," Civil Defense officers were quoted as saying. The officers also said they saw three people beating girls who had evacuated the school without proper dress. A Saudi journalist told Human Rights Watch that the mutawwa'in at the scene also turned away parents and other residents who came to assist.
[emphasis added]

Got that? YOUNG GIRLS WERE FORCED BACK INTO THE BLAZING BUILDING for not being veiled where they were then BURNED ALIVE even as others were CRUSHED TO DEATH on a staircase as they tried to access an emergency exit that was obstructed by the mutawwa'in.

Most egregious of all was how no one within the mutawwa'in was made to answer in open court for these unnecessary deaths. Instead, a singular and unprecedented "criticism" of the mutawwa'in was handed down by government authorities as their sole form of "punishment".

This one incident needs to be repeatedly thrust in Saudi Arabia's face whenever it seeks to upbraid or question the practices of any other country. It should remain a conspicuous black eye that must haunt this backward and puritanical "kingdom" for years to come until there is recognition of basic human liberties there and throughout Islam.

To this very day, people that I inform about this incident recoil in disgusted horror as they realize the gross dimensions and callous disregard for human life, especially that of women, which persists in Islam's symbolic capital nation.

Again, thank you, H. Numan, for not letting this fade from public memory. It is emblematic of everything that is wrong and evil about Islam.

Anonymous said...

Not to forget that The Netherlands allows its Muslim citizens and residents the right of practice of the rituals of their faith in places of worship reserved for that purpose. Saudi Arabia does not allow Christians anything like the same hospitality. My veriword is 'imbesiti'. I rather like it.

Kevin Stroup said...

F*&K the Kingdom of Saud. Who cares what a bunch of backwards camel lovers think about Western Europe anyway?

Profitsbeard said...

There's a good Dutch expression for the scummy Saudis: "Rot op!"

"Screw off!", in effect.

Blogger said...

The Dutch ambassador in Riyadh had to clarify for the Saudi authorities statements made by PVV leader Geert Wilders

"Go and read your own koran and hadithes, and there you will find that Muhammad was a torturer, a murderer, a robber, a paedophile and a liar."

Notice that only "leaders" are singled out? The internet is full of blogs and websites criticising Muhammad, there are 1000s of cartoons and 1000s of videos of different people burning korans, yet only Terry Jones was singled out. There are currently 400,000 hits for the "muhammad pedophile" google search. But muslims want control over leaders, which is an attempt at dhimmification of the west. Then it will be the internet as they have already been making inroads into ICANN.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/geller-islamic-supremacists-envision-a-takeover-of-the-internet.html

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