Our Flemish correspondent VH has compiled an extensive report on the real reasons for the jamming along with some background on the mosque’s radical Salafist imam. First, his translation from BN DeStem:
Imam jams mobile phone traffic for quiet prayer- - - - - - - - -The [Salafist] Islamic Foundation for Education and Transfer of Knowledge (ISOOK) of the Tilburg imam Salam has been fined €650 [US $941] by the Breda court for disrupting mobile phone traffic (GSM).
The foundation had placed a so-called “cell phone jammer” in their mosque in Tilburg to ensure a “quiet prayer”. A cell phone jammer is a device that emits strong radio signals for a radius of tens of meters to make mobile phone traffic impossible. Its use is illegal in The Netherlands, because signals are transmitted at a frequency that belongs to the GSM providers.
Moreover, safety can be endangered, because it also blocks emergency calls to police and rescue services.
The police discovered the cell phone jammer after complaints from the neighborhood. The board of the foundation was fined €550 [US $797], but rejected it, since the board wanted to bring the case to court. When the case was heard in court two days ago, nobody from the foundation showed up. The ruling judge subsequently issued judgment in favor of the plaintiff. The judge spoke of a “nasty fact”. “There are other methods to ensure that people to turn off their mobile phone during prayer, by putting up a sign for example.”[1]
According to the local chapter of the VVD party [center-right], this is yet another example of the Salam mosque being very intolerant. The party wants the imam to be expelled and the mosque closed down.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[1] Note: This “quiet prayer” taqiyya was something the judge nor the local VVD politicians (“very intolerant!”) did not understand. From the “People Against Islam” blog:
Muslim Extremists use “GSM Jammers” to sabotage undercover agents
In Antwerp there are various extremist mosques that use “GSM Jammers” to create a “no call / no sms zone” in and around the mosque. With such a GSM jammer one can block all GSM traffic within a relatively wide radius. Most sophisticated jammers can easily disrupt all mobile traffic seriously or even paralyze within a 5 km radius. The price for such devices ranges from 40 euros/dollars to a few hundred euros/dollars [example: UMTS / 3G / CDMA / GSM / PCS Portable Jammer, 3-20 m: 205 USD, 156 euros]. The hyping of these devices began in the U.S. and spread to western Europe.
The “GSM Jammer” is illegal in our country, but is used by several radical mosques in Antwerp to sabotage all kinds of informants and undercover officers from various police and security forces. Spies who are in the area around the mosques in this way may be prevented from communicating with their “controllers” in the police and security services. It is an additional tool for these extremists besides the numerous cameras mosques use to keep a close watch on the visitors. Snoops are not welcome!
“People Against Islam” has long been asking whether the mosques in our country are being monitored by competent authorities on their illegal use of GSM Jammers. We also believe that many cameras in the many Islamic “prayer houses” are used solely to spy on mosque visitors. Why are there not just cameras placed at the entrances to mosques? The dozens of cameras inside the mosque are of no use in terms of theft and prevention of burglaries. Incidentally, have you ever noticed cameras inside a church to spy on the faithful? I have not! A matter to think about!
(People Against Islam, Chairman Peter Velle)
VH supplies this additional background information on Ahmed Salam and the Islamic Foundation for Education and Transfer of Knowledge:
Ahmed Salam came to the Netherlands from Syria in 1989. He was involved with the World Muslim League center of Mohammed Cheppih (2000) and the Moroccan mosque Center for Cultural and Welfare Foundation in Tilburg. Also in 2000, he founded the Salafist Islamic Foundation for Education and Transfer of Knowledge (ISOOK). Later, in 2002, opened the Salam Mosque in Tilburg that led to concern among the local residents, especially because it was reported in the news that he preached that men should discipline their wives with physical violence, that men should not let their women work outside the house, because women become disobedient through it, and that Muslim boys and girls should not swim together.In November 2004 Ahmed Salam refused to shake hands of the then Minister of Integration, Rita Verdonk. Though a number of his colleagues were expelled, he was allowed to continue preaching. (The same Rita Verdonk was the one who later on declared the Dutch Citizenship of Ayaan Hirsi Ali to be invalid.)
In 2006 Ahmed Salam, who until then had lived off welfare benefits, preached to his flock that they should damage the Dutch state by, for instance, not paying taxes. The same year, Suhayb Salam, his Syrian-born son, caused a stir at the University of Eindhoven, not only by demanding for his “lecture” on Ramadan that ladies had to sit in the back and the men in front, but also by having the students agree with him.
Suhayb Salam, who openly declares he is a Salafist and married to two women, teaches for his father’s ISOOK, and according a former student, Patrick Pouw, he said things such as: “Following the lessons is more important than a job, more important than school exams, more important than anything. Don’t mingle with the infidel, don’t become friends with them, but hate them to the depths of your heart.”
Father and son Salam made the headlines together with the niqab petition against a possible burka-ban, and also in 2007 with the demand that, during an interview on a TV show in response to the meeting with the mayor, no wine be allowed on the table. The son Suhayb Salam later that year caused a stir by walking out of a TV show (Bimbos and Burkas, wmv file) because a woman in a miniskirt came into the picture. “I do not wish to see this, and miniskirts and have nothing to do with emancipation,’’ he said.
In the studio one of his wives, Samira Dahri, was also present (the other one is in Syria), wearing a burka. This Samira Dahri also made the headlines: as a teacher at a school in Utrecht suddenly she no longer wanted to shake hands with her colleagues (and the Commission on Equal Treatment approved it).
In 2008 Geert Wilders wanted to invite three Salafist imams for an open discussion on his film Fitna: Fawaz Jneid of the As-Soennah Mosque in Den Haag, Mahmoud el Shershaby of the El Tawheed Mosque in Amsterdam, and Ahmed Salam of the mosque in Tilburg. “These are imams with whom I can conduct a strong debate,” Wilders said. But the imams refused. They would only debate under a number of outrageous conditions the PVV did not want to meet.
Salafists like Suhayb Salam (Tilburg), Fawaz Jneid (The Hague) and Mahmoud el Shershaby (Amsterdam) also preach their radical anti-Western, anti-Kufr messages in other Dutch cities (maybe also in Flanders). Not coincidentally, all cities having a lot of trouble with their Muslim “youths”, like Amersfoort, Apeldoorn, Assen, Breda, Culemborg, Den Bosch, Ede, Enschede, Gouda, Heerlen, Leerdam, Roermond, Tiel and Utrecht.
The Islamic Foundation for Education and Transfer of Knowledge (ISOOK) of the Salam family has been described by the AIVD [Dutch Intelligence Service] as an organization that disseminates anti-integration messages, and the imam Ahmed Salam as a “radical”. The AIVD suspects that there are around 30,000 youngsters in the Netherlands sensitive to these ideas and the police of Tilburg had also expressed concerns about “anti-integrative behavior of the imam and his son Suhayb Salam Ahmed Salam”.
Research agencies that have been assigned by the (local) government to investigate the problems and provide insight to politicians are still issuing reports with conclusions like these:
“It is a risky matter to go against the common idiom, and to plead for a more reasoned and cautious use of the concepts of radicalism, and radicalization in the public debate, although that would largely take out the sting out of the fear these concept would otherwise carry with them. […] To connect radicalism necessarily with threats or risks to safety is not only incorrect, but also leads to a discourse in which hostilities are ingrained. […] We [the researchers] consider radicalism as the result of a process of alienation and removal from the established society and its system of values.. Such alienation develops from a breach of trust, via a legitimacy conflict to a legitimacy break. That process is under the influence of socio-economic and ethnic or cultural position of the individual who is radicalizing. […] The threat of radicalism, and radicalization does not come forth from the range of ideas [Islam]. Therefore it is striking, as we repeatedly note in this study, that the image forming of the mosque in Tilburg-North and in particular of the person of Imam Ahmed Salam and his closest followers, in the media and in public AIVD reports the relationship is made between the body of thought [again: Islam] and radicalism, and potential social and security risks. […] The debate on ‘the multicultural drama’ has continued in a still uneasy debate about the relationships between integration, participation, equality and multicultural policies, strengthening of the discourse and [on the other hand] the neo-nationalist [sic], or rather populist reflex of a tackling it the hard way.”
The two “researchers” who wrote this Tilburg report for the city government, Henk Moors and Menno Jacobs, the latter in the ex-University department Woman Studies also worked for the same research bureau, (IVA Beleidsonderzoek en Advies) on the policy study for the troubled city of Ede in the Netherlands, where the immigrant Muslim population lives in a “state of war” with the local Christian population:
Quote: “Culture and faith-related ideas and behaviors do not form major social risks in the municipality of Ede. […] The City Council is pleased to assent to the opinion of the researchers that any tensions between the groups of people are not related to religion or culture as such. […] The researchers [Moors, Jacobs] recommend an approach to the problems with a socio-economic and socio-cultural perspective.” And: “[…] all the publicity about troublemakers and radical Muslims leads to prejudice and discrimination.”
8 comments:
Do the Europeans realize how insane they are ?
They PAY these people to be in their countries.
The Europeans are DONE.
Even IF they manage to summon the collective willpower to shut down all radical expressions of Islam today, they will STILL have to deal with the demographic reality tomorrow.
Either the power of Islam ITSELF is broken NOW (or VERY soon), or Europe will fall to the religion that Ataturk described as "a rotting corpse".
The ONLY way to prevent the Lebanization of Europe, is to BREAK the Islamic identity NOW, BEFORE huge numbers of people identify with it in the future.
Islam is more dangerous than Nazism or Communism. But since Europe does not have the stomach for an open war against Islam within its borders (in part because of the repercussions without), Europe will FALL within the century, just like Bernard Lewis said.
As a Christian, I cannot help but look upon the situation in Europe (and the US as well), in anything but a sense of deep dread.
Islam to my mind is the AntiChrist. It represents all the ugliness in the Jewish tradition which the Son of God SPECIFICALLY rejected as having ever been part of Gods Law.
In Islam, Holy Warfare is embraced and EXPANDED upon. In Islam, hatred and denigration of non believers is embraced and EXPANDED upon. In Islam, brutal punishments for infractions against an all-encompassing legal code are embraced and EXPANDED upon.
In short, Islam is all the ugliness of the old Jewish tradition made universal, and as such, represents the antithesis of Christ's influence on earth.
And what do we see today?
We see a world unified like never before, but teetering on the edge of dissolution.
The message of loving one's neighbor as oneself has been spread, in both thought and deed, in all corners of the world. It has been heard in shouts, and in whispers.
And now the globalized economically inerdependant world has hit the iceburg. The post WWII political and economic order is about to BREAK, and break VIOLENTLY.
There will be wars, and famines, JUST like it was foretold, two thousand years ago. And eventually, people will yearn for global peace, unity, and sense of meaning, but they will turn to ISLAM to get it.
Europe is the canary in the coal mine. People will end up choosing the AntiChrist so they can have "peace in our times". And when the whole world elevates a barbaric lie where GOD should be, it will represent the last great blasphemy that will happen shortly before the return of creation's TRUE king.
The West is dying, and the victory of the AntiChrist is at hand.
People will choose a morally grotesque lie to save their own sorry rear ends, in a modern-day "Give us Barrabus!"
When that happens, the end will come....in my opinion, at least.
And as for the state of Israel, the Messiah pegged it best himself:
"Let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."
When the West has sold out Israel in a pathetic attempt to save its own rear end, and when the "global village" of the late 20th Century collapses violently --those who live close to "Judea" will desire terrible things upon those who live IN "Judea".
The Islamic hordes around Israel will descend upon it in an apocalyptic BLOODLUST, and will slaughter EVERYTHING in their sight.
"Let those who live in Judea flee to the mountains."
The LAST place I'd want to be in these final dark days ahead, would be in "Judaa" (the modern state of Israel).
@cumpa_29: You can see how close we are to the end. So can I. And so, I suspect, can the great majority of those who regularly read this blog.
But we are a minority, tiny minority.
As it is God's will that none be lost in the forthcoming ructions, how do we get the message to that vast majority who continue as though nothing were amiss? For at present rate of progress, far too many are only going to find out that God is cross with them at that final interview before the judgement. And then it will be too late for them.
How do we tell them?
yokel.
If people haven't decided whether or not they want to be decent human beings by now, no one else can make them so.
God help us all.
It's funny how people care so much about what happens to Europe and to a culture, but that's really beyond the point. The point of a beneficial culture is for it to benefit to my ethnic group, not to other people. This is why I could care the less what happens to Europe in 100 years if it becomes mostly Muslim - I have no stake and could care the less how the Africans, Middle Eastern and Asians will live in Europe and under which rules.
And obviously these people feel alienation - they have no place in Europe. This should be the real message.
cumpa, Christianity is partly to blame for it - just look at the dhimmitude of the Pope, which is vaguely amusing if you are emotionally detached.
Here's the thing: Just like WWII, the USA will end up having to save Europe at some point which will cost us a lot of people, money, and time for which Europe will fail to reimburse us. That is, if the USA can last long enough to save Europe. At the rate we are ceding our free market economy, common sense, Judeo-Christian culture, and constitutional rights, the USA will have to save ourselves before we save Europe.
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