The noted blogger Fjordman is filing this report via Gates of Vienna.
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Our Danish correspondent TB brought this Norwegian article to our attention. Fjordman kindly agreed to translate it, and follows it with his comments.
From VG Nett:
Mugger to Gays: — This is a Muslim district
On the evening of Sunday 9th of August 2009, a gay male couple were on their way home from a concert and dinner in the center of Oslo and were walking hand in hand along the road just next to where they live, in the Grønland district of east-central Oslo.
“Suddenly a man in his forties walked up to us and asked whether we spoke Norwegian. He then asked, ‘What is this?’ while pointing at our hands,” says Anders (24) to the newspaper Dagbladet.
The man, who came from an immigrant background, clearly indicated that he didn’t accept this kind of behavior.
“He said, ‘I don’t like this. This is a Muslim area.’“
The couple continued walking calmly along the sidewalk, but the man followed them and kicked one of them hard from behind. Anders’ boyfriend used his mobile phone to call the police, and the attacker quickly fled the scene. According to the Oslo police, the case in now under investigation.
“We take this very seriously. The Norwegian gay couple have explained that they were walking and met a man around 40, who shouted that ‘This is a Muslim area, and we don’t tolerate this stuff here,’“ says Oddleif Sveinungsen from the Oslo police.
My comments:
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Technically speaking, the attacker was simply telling the truth: This particular district is for all practical purposes a Muslim area today, just as countless other urban areas across Western Europe have become, from Athens via Marseilles and the suburbs of Paris, Amsterdam, Brussels and Hamburg to Birmingham.
Those who have been following the Scandinavian scene know that Malmö in southern Sweden is the worst town or city in this part of Europe when it comes to “diversity.” This is true, but when it comes to capital cities, I suspect that Oslo, Norway, is currently the worst among the Nordic countries, several orders of magnitude worse than Copenhagen, Denmark or Helsinki, Finland, and at least as bad as Stockholm, Sweden. A visiting Romanian friend even claimed that Oslo is now “worse than Paris.” I haven’t been to Paris for years and cannot confirm whether this is true.
I suspect that Oslo is still not as bad as some of the larger cities such as Amsterdam or London, but it’s catching up fast, accompanied by wild cheers from the intelligentsia and the heavily left-leaning press.
Siv Jensen from the right-wing Progress Party warned against a trend of “stealth-Islamization” recently. She was instantly compared to Nazi Germany by Per-Kristian Foss, an openly gay man from the “conservative” party. Native Norwegians are already a minority in some school districts in Oslo — among them the above-mentioned Grønland area — and will be a minority in their own capital city within a generation or so if the current level of immigration continues, and in the entire country later this century.
When I was born, Norway was still almost 100% white and one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries in the world. If I live a very long life and remain here, I may live to be a minority in my own country. This in a country which gained its independence as late as the twentieth century and which has no colonial history. The “colonial guilt” argument which Multiculturalists often use as a verbal weapon against France, Britain etc. is invalid and irrelevant. Mass immigration is also heavily promoted in Finland, Sweden, and Norway. It’s not because of any “past colonial history”, it’s because we are white. Period.
If you come to Oslo from abroad, you will usually arrive at the Oslo Central Station, which is very close to some of the worst areas in the city, including Grønland. When leaving the railway station and entering the main street, Karl Johan Street, you will be met by crowds of Somalis, Arabs and Kurds hanging around at street corners. There will be a few natives there, among them some drug addicts trying to get their latest shot of heroin or some blond girls acting as girlfriends/all-purpose sluts for members of various immigrant gangs. In the evenings you may also be fortunate enough to be harassed by aggressive Nigerian prostitutes. One recent addition to the Multicultural garden of diversity has been gangs of Gypsy criminals/organized beggars, who traveled to Western Europe instantly when Romania joined the EU. They have managed the almost impossible feat of outscoring even Muslim and African gangs when it comes to theft and petty crime.
This is what you see today if you walk down the main street of central Oslo, along with a large number of pregnant veiled women. It gets slightly better when you approach the Royal Castle, but not too long ago there was a shootout in broad daylight between two rival Pakistani gangs close to the Nobel Peace Center.
P.S.: The current chairman of the city government of Oslo, Erling Lae, is an openly gay man from the “conservative” party Høyre who loves mass immigration. The national leader of the conservative party, Erna Solberg, earlier called for the establishment of an official sharia council in Norway which Muslims can use for family matters. This would be “good for integration.”
33 comments:
"P.S.: The current chairman of the city government of Oslo, Erling Lae, is an openly gay man from the “conservative” party Høyre who loves mass immigration. The national leader of the conservative party, Erna Solberg, earlier called for the establishment of an official sharia council in Norway which Muslims can use for family matters. This would be “good for integration.”"
These people must be completely off their rockers. There is no other logical explanations to this irrational behaviour among the members of our ruling elites. These people must be removed from power and very soon or the consequences will be dire for all of us. If the removals is done with democratical means or not does not matter as long as they just get removed from power and put somewhere where they cannot harm people and/or their country no more.
If this is what the "conservatives" are saying and doing, then Norway is in very, very serious trouble!
VG Nett: what are the regular folks in Norway thinking??
It is very sad that two gay individuals cannot walk home without being assaulted in Oslo.
I was recently in downtown NYC where gay partners flooded the streets. No one gets beat up anymore in NYC for being gay and, if they do the NYPD puts it as a priority...
Things have gone terribly wrong in Europe.
How much worse does it have to get before the people of Europe stand up?
I think that this extreme expression of liberalism is at least in part a direct result of the homosexual movement. When the feelings and values of the majority of the nation are disregarded for the sake of a minority and even disapproval is shunned and people are taught to ignore thier basic natural instincts and aversions and just put a smiley face on , this is a result. It doesn't stop with the one perversion that is protected but begins to have its effect and becomes what we see now- people seemingly indifferent and unable to trust their own judgements without guilt and self doubt to the point of spiritual paralysis. It is perhaps not only homosexuality but all forms sexual lewdness and other forms of public deviancy in general as well, which been used as a battering rasm for so called freedom to the point where people have no more discernment or reason. It is not only religion and old fashioned conservative values that had to be erased but reason itself has to be outlawed for the sake of "progress".That sort of Trojan Horse for all manner of idiocy.
For clarification, the extreme expression of liberalism I speak of is that form of expression which allows for the unchecked spread of Islam and the increased population of Muslims in traditionally non muslim countries. I think it is the same "liberalism" which thinks it is ok to destroy culture and society for homosexuals that is responsible for the denial of reality concerning the true nature and face of Islam. In my opinion like it or not, denial of reality is necessary for both and you can't stop denyng reality so easily.
babs it sounds like the 'people of Europe aren't who they used to be, so they likely won't stand up against themselves. Robin there are several other logical reasons. 1. They are bought and paid for, possibly by Saudis or other money'd groups who have an interest in mass Muslim immigration or 2. They are in fear for their lives and their families lives directly. 3. They know something we do not know and they are correct and we are not. OK 3 is unlikely but it is a logical possibility. I think personally they have been so indoctrinated with politically correct thought that they are incapable of dealing with truth even when it is beating them in the skull with brass knuckles.
However, the part of the story I find amusing is this:
'They are looking 'very seriously' at this'
I'm sure. The Norwegian police consider it a high priority I bet, to protect the rights of a few gay people in an area now fallen to Muslims who riot, burn tires and garbage, take over buildings on a nightly basis. Dare we face reality for a moment? Rights for gay people are likely the last rights granted in a safe, decent, civilized nation. As those places descend into Multicultural chaos the most intolerant group will set the rules and surprise! That is Islam. So when police say that 'this is a high priority' I suspect there is a bit of a fib in that. If it was a priority, there would not be a policy of importing millions of people who teach each other to murder homosexuals every day in the mosques.
"No one gets beat up anymore in NYC for being gay and, if they do the NYPD puts it as a priority..."
Babs, no one should get beaten up for any reason, but when it does happen why should anyone get a priority police reaction?
Surely everyone is entitled to the same level of police service?
Since homosexuals tend to vote for parties that support immigration from Muslim countries, they have only themselves to blame. They are getting what they deserve.
When I met you, I was but the learner, Now I am the Master."
Sebastian is right, but I will add to what he and Robin Shadowes said.
First, the PC MC Leftists REALLY BELIEVE that if they give Islamists EVERYTHING that they want, the 'worker's paradise' foretold by Marx will appear ['Western Hegemony' will have been vanquished.]
Secondly, The Western Cultural Revolution ['63-'79] and its after- math have resulted in such a tearing down of traditional Western Culture that the native Europeans are used to concessions to Islamists.
The homosexual rights' movement was a key group that used new tactics to break down Native resistance. Now, (as the title quote implies) Islamists are using the same tactics that the GLBT Left invented to get what they want.
PC MC Leftism is an anti-Western hate cult. Thus, don't be surprised when they start cannabalizing all the SECULAR values that they once claimed to hold in the highest esteem.
As for NYC and the GLBT agenda, you know what the NYPD will do if large scale Al-Hijra takes place there-- same thing-- the GLBT will feel the boot of PC as the "new oppressors" (with Muslims as the victims).
First: the key phrase is "This is a Muslim Area".
There should be NO SUCH PLACE in free Western society.
Second: yes, many of us do have misgivings about some of the liberality in our (Western) society, but we are free and democratic, and will arrive at solutions that way - IT IS NONE OF THE MUSLIMS' BUSINESS. If they don't like it, why are they here ?
If this is what passes for "conservative" in Scandinavia, encouraging immigration of unassimilable colonizers at a rate that will overwhelm one's own more civilized culture then they are lost to reason. What is it exactly that these sham conservatives are "conserving"? Liberty is long gone. Now native culture is being given the heave ho. An economic death spiral will follow. Their very lives are next, presumably.
Instead of conserving, it is apparent that change is the order of the day and absolutely everything is up for grabs. This is the modus operandi of radical socialists, whatever they call themselves.
This is right out of the novel 1984, nomenclature that is the opposite of the named object's true nature. Conservative my foot.
As for gays inviting in masses of ideologically programmed gay bashers whose homophobia is a religious edict, they are clearly unhinged, suicidal masochists.
Prolonged socialism obviously rots the brain and makes people into blithering idiots. The Scandinavian laboratory proves this to be so.
They are going to their cultural death (plus or minus physical death) not with a bang, not even a whimper, but are shuffling into oblivion willingly like lemmings going over the cliff, despite the efforts of a handful of rebels like Fjordman.
It's like watching a real life zombie movie where the true horror comes from knowing that your own country has also been infected and witnessing brain rot setting in, starting with the White House.
Just as the Nazis had their Quisling, now the Muslims have their own quislings.
The problem of the European islamization refusal movement ― which deserves my agreement ― is that it gives us in return of the Muslim refusal the absurdity of a “civil religion” of Jean Jacques Rousseau and Comte, instead of the rational Christian affirmation as per John Locke. I am sorry, but I cannot criticize Islam in name of the so called “homophobia”, which is a mere political propaganda device. This is the reason why the European culture is condemned to defeat ― it cannot offer a real cultural alternative to Islam. Please check British MP Roger Helmer opinion:
«And while we’re mentioning semantic issues, let me point out that the neologism “homophobia” is not so much a word as a political agenda. In psychiatry, a phobia is defined as an irrational fear. I have yet to meet anyone who has an irrational fear of homosexuals, or of homosexuality. So to the extent that the word has any meaning at all, it describes something which simply does not exist.
“Homophobia” is merely a propaganda device designed to denigrate and stigmatise those holding conventional opinions, which have been held by most people through most of recorded history. It is frightening evidence of the way in which political correctness is threatening our freedom.»
http://rogerhelmermep.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/poles-take-some-stick/
Since I don't live in Europe, I depend on blogs like this one to learn about what's going on there.
The blindness of the Leftist PC types to what they are doing to Europe is the most disturbing aspect. They persist on this suicidal course even as evidence builds that too many Muslims are in Europe to impose their ways instead of integrating. And any who complain are instantly branded as Nazis, Racists and Fascists.
Lain'e observation about how socialism rots the mind are spot on. That's why I'm pessimistic about enough Europeans waking up in time to stem the tide. The virus of PC Multicultiralism has infected way too many people there for too long.
And with the election of Comrade Obamarx here in the US, anyone who thinks it can't happen here is delusional. We're not as far along as Sweeden, Norway or Great Britain, but the same PC virus is healthy and spreading here.
"And while we’re mentioning semantic issues, let me point out that the neologism “homophobia” is not so much a word as a political agenda. In psychiatry, a phobia is defined as an irrational fear. I have yet to meet anyone who has an irrational fear of homosexuals, or of homosexuality. So to the extent that the word has any meaning at all, it describes something which simply does not exist.
“Homophobia” is merely a propaganda device designed to denigrate and stigmatise those holding conventional opinions, which have been held by most people through most of recorded history. It is frightening evidence of the way in which political correctness is threatening our freedom."
In place of homo put islam.
There is no such thing as Islamophobia, just a healthy aversion to religious madnesss that leads to flying planes into buildings.
There is also no such thing as homophobia, just a healthy aversion to a minority practice being promoted way above its place in the normal order of things.
"And with the election of Comrade Obamarx here in the US, anyone who thinks it can't happen here is delusional. We're not as far along as Sweeden, Norway or Great Britain, but the same PC virus is healthy and spreading here."
The day you gladly and willingly give over your firearms to the government with smiling faces, that is the day when the PC-ness has payed off and the brainrot has made irreparable damages to your people, that is the day you are as much finito as we are here now.
Several years ago, the mayor of Paris, Bertrand Delanoë, an overt homosexual and a socialist, was stabbed during the inauguration of Nuit Blanche, the first instance of an all-night cultural festival organised by the city, which has since become a yearly event.
Fortunately, the wound was not fatal. The media were not very talkative at the time about the attacker's motives. There were some mumblings about him being mentally deranged.
However, one thing is sure : the man wielding the knife was an Arab. I don't remember anyone, at the time, making the obvious connexion between Islam and the attempted murder of a prominent homosexual figure.
However, I have read recently, somewhere, that the attacker said he did not like homosexuals. (I'm not stating this as a verified fact ; you'd have to check it.)
There does seem to be a disturbing tendency, in France, to attribute to mental illness some criminal acts that are, on the contrary, quite rational if one considers the Islamic factor.
The same thing happened when, several years ago, a Muslim youngster in Paris slit the throat of his buddy -- and gouged out his eyes with a fork -- just because he was a Jew, and boasted immediately afterwards about "having killed his Jew".
The court ruled that he was mentally insane.
In a way, this was true : Islam is a mental disease, and Mohammed was a pathological pervert.
But the authorities would never admit to that, of course. It really seems they are desperately trying to hide from us the extent of the horror they have inflicted upon the country, by allowing the indigenous population to be progressively replaced by foreign followers of this violent and crazy cult.
The Sentinel: Babs, no one should get beaten up for any reason, but when it does happen why should anyone get a priority police reaction?
Surely everyone is entitled to the same level of police service?.
This is the real bottom line. All crimes of similar extent should be prosecuted with equal priority. The only reason why gay-bashing became some sort of special circumstance was due to so many law enforcement officers giving it the wink. It is much like how rape used to be treated as "boys will be boys" behavior instead of sexual violence against women. All this hate-crime or hate-speech crap should be dismissed in favor of swift and appropriately blind justice.
Robert Marchenoir: There does seem to be a disturbing tendency, in France, to attribute to mental illness some criminal acts that are, on the contrary, quite rational if one considers the Islamic factor.
Even more disturbing is how Islam and the left mirror each other despite being such putative opposites. Muslims, too, often declare apostates as "mentally imbalanced" or "insane" rather than admit that anyone might have a reasonable justification for quitting Islam.
While it is both appealing and convenient to consider Islam as a mental disease―much like so many people also view liberalism―it is more a case of endemic Magical Thinking™. Immersed in delusions of adequacy, Muslims persuade themselves that their towering cognitive dissonance is not utterly crippling; Just as liberals convince themselves that feelings and wishes supercede reality or that they are somehow immune to the Law of Unintended Consequences.
I think Muslims are truly homophobic by the definition above of an "irrational fear" of gays, just as their strictures against women reveal a primitive patriarchal society's fear of women's fecundity. (Muslim women captive in this anti-woman belief system exhibit severe Stockholm syndrome).
In the case of western society, I agree that the term homophobia is incorrectly used to demonize a normal reaction of uneasiness toward a minority group with practices that bring with them a burden of pathologies for society. Further uneasiness is added when the group goes beyond a quest for tolerance and demands a kind of imprimateur from society, instead of seeking help to minimize associated pathologies.
There's almost a glorification of said pathologies, on flagrant display at misnamed "Pride Days". These have progressed from gays feeling proud that they are achieving in a society that didn't make it easy for them in the past to feeling proud of and flaunting their sexuality and demanding that society also be "proud" of this non-achievement i.e. one's biologically assigned sexual preference.
This video will give you a general feel of this 'diverse' neighborhood. The first minute is in Norwegian, the latter part is in English.
“Suddenly a man in his forties walked up to us and asked whether we spoke Norwegian. He then asked, ‘What is this?’ while pointing at our hands,” says Anders (24) to the newspaper Dagbladet.
The man, who came from an immigrant background, clearly indicated that he didn’t accept this kind of behavior.
“He said, ‘I don’t like this. This is a Muslim area.’“
Mahoundian areas in Egypt, Opensewerabia, Turkey and you name it, anywhere in mahoundistan, swarm with pairs of males holding hands, hugging and kissing each other (and a hell of a lot more intimate stuff when they're not in public), and yet we never hear about them getting beaten up by their fellow mahoundians for their behavior. There seems to be no end to the vomit-inducing hypocrisy of the mahoundian scum.
laine: As for gays inviting in masses of ideologically programmed gay bashers whose homophobia is a religious edict, they are clearly unhinged, suicidal masochists.
However redundant it might seem, being homosexual is a de facto form of genetic suicide in that their DNA is not replicated. It is not much of a reach to then extend this behavior into other pathological activities.
Further uneasiness is added when the group goes beyond a quest for tolerance and demands a kind of imprimateur from society, instead of seeking help to minimize associated pathologies.
The glorification of "diversity" has only served to fuel this phenomenon. Even more impetus is lent to this by the entire "self-esteem" movement which has arbitrarily determined that all people should have self-esteem regardless of whether they deserve to or have earned even a modicum of it themselves.
All of this has culminated with some homosexuals glorifying the most horrific and psychotic anti-life behavior imaginable in the form of "Bug Chasing".
Far from "seeking help to minimize associated pathologies", they are instead maximizing one of the most destructive and lethal epidemiologies known to mankind.
Along with an irrational hostility to the nuclear family, it is this sort of anti-social and anti-life conduct that has forced me to recalibrate my entire mindset regarding gay rights.
These have progressed from gays feeling proud that they are achieving in a society that didn't make it easy for them in the past to feeling proud of and flaunting their sexuality and demanding that society also be "proud" of this non-achievement i.e. one's biologically assigned sexual preference.
Again, this seems to be closely linked with the current liberal cause célèbre and "non-achievment" of awarding oneself unmerited self-esteem. Few better examples of this "non-achievement" mentality exist than the modern academic practice of Social Promotion. A child's oh-so precious self-esteem is so sacrosanct that it is deemed acceptable to graduate functional illiterates rather than risk harming their delicate pride.
Perish the thought that this newly graduated illiterate's untarnished pride will run straight into a brick wall of near-permanent unemployment or, at best, career burger-flipping.
El: This video will give you a general feel of this 'diverse' neighborhood.
Most astonishing of all is how interviewee and Grønland resident, Aslam Shaid, repeatedly refers to his neighborhood as "multicultural" even while he insists that gays should not openly exhibit affection in, what just as suddenly becomes, a "Muslim area".
One has to wonder if such blatant taqiyya spewing even registers in whatever atrophied microencephalitic vestigial artifact passes for his Muslim brain. Of almost equal importance is why the interviewer doesn't press the point and demand an explanation as to which is it, a "Muslim" or "multicultural" neighborhood.
This soft-pitch handling of Muslims needs to be replaced with some genuine hardball tactics. They need to be called on every last one of their numerous and hypocritical toilet-clogging declarations.
"Every last one of their numerous and hypocritical toilet-clogging declarations". (Zenster)
Hahaha. I like this sort of bombastic, over the top, totally unfair statements.
I mean, they would only clog the toilet if you were so dumb as to dump them there, right ? Actually, any eco-friendly, sustainable, Kyoto-vetted garbage can would do, wouldn't it ?
Or better stil, any sort of hot-air activated windmill, which would probably bring you the added advantage of a tax deduction by the end of the year, see what I mean ?
The same thing is happening in the United States. It's just that we're a few decades behind Europe, and we have a population that is much larger. Nevertheless, Islam is growing here quite rapidly, and it is making inroads into disaffected native populations. Many people in America are disenchanted with the materialism and the nihilism they see around them, a situation fostered by 50 years of increasing secularism and liberalism. Couple that with growing economic and social unrest in America, and I believe we will be ripe for the multicultural kettle to boil over and explode in the near future. When America goes down, the West will be in grave danger. We are heading for a world war that will eclipse the last one by many degrees of bad.
Robert Marchenoir: Hahaha. I like this sort of bombastic, over the top, totally unfair statements.
I suppose it is "totally unfair" to ever expect that Muslims will tell the truth to us infidels.
I mean, they would only clog the toilet if you were so dumb as to dump them there, right ?.
Wrong. This is something that Muslims have mastered all by themselves. Did you even bother to watch the video? Muslims congest every available avenue with their lies and misinformation. Do you even realize that such thoroughly discredited garbage as "The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion" was used in 2002 as the basis for a 30 part pseudo-documentary series called "Horseman without a Horse"?
This bottomless tripe volcano was approved for broadcast by Egypt's ministries for Information and Culture. Aired on the Dream Channel by the state-owned Egyptian television network, this blatantly anti-Semitic rubbish is in direct contravention of international treaties against racial and religious hatred to which Egypt is a signatory.
Broadcast during Ramadan, this unmitigated excrement reached untold millions of Arab Muslims and breathed new life into the "The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion". This confabulation of Czar Nicholas II's secret police was used by Hitler to justify the Holocaust and is being put to the exact same use in Muslim countries.
Your insults notwithstanding, I think "toilet-clogging" (hat tip to Jedilson Bonfim), is an understatement regarding the boatloads of putrescent drivel that Islam continues to churn out. I suggest erecting your own windmill to capitalize on something your country is justly famous for.
"Your insults"... "Your country"...
My poor Mr. Zenster... I really, truly thought more of you.
I was not insulting you at all. My comment was actually a praise of yours. Believe it or not, I really liked your "toilet-clogging" rethoric, precisely because it's so over the top, and, yes, has some bad faith inside.
Baid faith is sometimes a healthy thing to oppose an enemy who uses it so liberally.
I suggest you take a good breath, relax, and try to appreciate some humour.
Don't be so muslim. Don't be like ayatollah Khomeiny, who explained that humour was an un-muslim thing.
And keep your own, real insults about "my country". "Your country" (supposing it's America) has quite a few things to apologize about when it comes to supporting the forces of backward Islam, beginning with those American aviators ferrying children slaves for King Saud in exchange for loads of money, back in 1955.
I'm not sure it would be very wise for you to enter a mud-slinging contest about each country's perceived foibles.
Robert Marchenoir: I really, truly thought more of you.
As I had of you until now.
I was not insulting you at all. My comment was actually a praise of yours.
It was difficult to tell. Your praise comes off as rather backhanded.
Baid faith is sometimes a healthy thing to oppose an enemy who uses it so liberally.
My feelings precisely, which is why your seeming criticism of how I so strongly condemned such conduct sounded a sour note in my ear.
I suggest you take a good breath, relax, and try to appreciate some humour.
That's not quite possible right now as I'm battling a nasty case of walking pneumonia that has me more than a little under the weather.
And keep your own, real insults about "my country". "Your country" (supposing it's America) has quite a few things to apologize about when it comes to supporting the forces of backward Islam, beginning with those American aviators ferrying children slaves for King Saud in exchange for loads of money, back in 1955.
I'd sooner shoulder the blame for a few slave-ferrying criminals than have the Eurabia pact on my conscience. Let's not even start about the Mediterranean Union, shall we?
Civilisations are not conquered, they commit suicide.
I suspect we may have (another) Solkhar on our hands.
OK, everybody, cool your jets.
We all live in glass houses. Nobody here can afford to throw any stones, so cut it out.
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