As far as I can determine, all the news stories reporting Mullah Omar’s death are derived from the BBC report, so this one has to be marked “unverified” for the time being:
‘US Strike’ Kills Taleban Leader- - - - - - - - -
A suspected US missile strike has killed 20 people, including a top Taleban commander, in north-west Pakistan, witnesses and officials say.
Mohammad Omar was among the dead when the missile, reportedly fired by a pilotless US drone, hit a compound owned by him in South Waziristan.
Omar fought with the Taleban in Afghanistan in the late 1990s.
The US has launched many missile strikes from Afghanistan against suspected militant targets recently.
The latest strike on Sunday night was launched at a compound owned by Mohammad Omar in Mandatta village in the troubled region of South Waziristan.
Mohammad Omar was a close associate of the dead Taleban commander Nek Mohammed, who was killed in a suspected US strike in the area four years ago.
Witnesses said that the missile strike completely destroyed Mohammed Omar’s house, and partially damaged two neighbouring houses.
What I want to know is: why did it take us seven years to do this? We’ve known where he is for a long time.
This supports my suspicion that we cut a quiet deal back in 2002 with various Afghan factions to leave Mullah Omar alive in return for a productive Loya Jirga and the installation of a regime that we could live with. Now something must have changed — the departure of Musharraf, perhaps? — and the deal is off.
Hat tip: Infidelesto.
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Something is certainly happening. I saw on tv yesterday how the Pakistani army is pushing the Taleban away from town to town. A Danish reporter was out there, and the scene was, ahem, lively.
Fortunately, the shooting was away from the place of reporting, just to tell the Taleban to back off, for they had a reportage to protect.
But as far as I know, the current campaign of uprooting Taleban started during Musharraf time?
Is it not clear that the US must eliminate Islam "out there"---render it impotent---in order to forge a tyrannical New World Order which will eliminate national sovereignties?
Wise up Journal.com?
None of us like Islam. None of us want an Islamic Trojan Horse within our borders. But is it not also part of the multicultural homogenizing scheme here, eliminating national boundaries-borders in order to create a New World? Bomb them "over there," dilute them here, morphing all races and values into a new Thing.
Is it not clear? Is not the subversion profoundly deeper and vastly wider?
Stephen, not clear at all. We need to eliminate political Islam (a purely religious Islam is fine) as a force from today's political scene in order to protect diversity and freedom, not least of women.
That is priority number 1.
Yes, there are some tendencies, through the UN, through the European Union etc., to form super-government structures. I don't like that, and I speak up against it when possible, for I prefer real democracy. But that's something we can handle if/when that threat becomes acute. Right now we need to deal with islam, ideologically and physically. The rest can wait.
Henrik, thank you. I hope you are right and fear you are wrong.
Steve
Baron-
Thats what I think. It is probably the tying up of some "loose ends" before the Messiah takes over.
OT: Do you really think Virginia will go for the ONE. Maybe northern. But southern?
spackle --
Virginia may well go over to the Messiah, but it will be because of Northern Virginia -- the Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy, not really Virginia at all -- and also the large black vote, which will be close to 100% for Obama.
If the rest of the Commonwealth were like my section of Virginia, Obama would not carry the day.
What I want to know is: why did it take us seven years to do this? We’ve known where he is for a long time.
The line, "The ... strike ... was launched at a compound owned by Mohammad Omar", seems to indicate Omar's presence was an open secret. Perhaps it took time to develop reliable observers that allowed us to synchronize his arrival with one of our Hellfires.
This supports my suspicion that we cut a quiet deal back in 2002 with various Afghan factions to leave Mullah Omar alive in return for a productive Loya Jirga and the installation of a regime that we could live with.
If so, then this should be our final lesson in cutting deals with Muslims. Omar's continued theft of oxygen only lent more prestige and a sense of invulnerability to al Qaeda in general. What's more, Afghanistan's "productive Loya Jirga" is basically a syndicate of drug lords and not any part of a "regime we can live with." Hell, just Afghanistan's re-introduction of shari'a law makes them a regime we cannot live with.
The vast majority of Western leaders still do not get how appearances are everything in the MME (Muslim Middle East). The surest way to impress your enemy is to have large numbers of them showing up DEAD on a regular basis. Preferrably those nearest the top of the food chain.
Now something must have changed — the departure of Musharraf, perhaps? — and the deal is off.
From the number of launches within Pakistan in such a short time, I'd say a brand spanking new bright and shiny message is being sent that way. Something along the lines of, "Act NOW! Or we will act for you."
If old One Eye is well and truly dead, this is great good news.
Counting down for Leftists claiming this was timed for an election cycle stunt. 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...
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Spacecase said...
This was not the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar, but rather one of his associates, also called Omar.
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Spacecase --
The BBC names him as Mohammed Omar, which is the name of Mullah Omar. I have no idea if the story is in fact true, but that's what it says.
Personally I don't give a dam. I just hope his wedding tackle has has been so atomistic that it is impossible for him to enjoy his 72 virgins and that there is real truth in the nursery rhyme all the kings horse and all the kings men couldn't put Omar together again.
What really made my day though was that the Danes have really been dishing out the big stick the last few days. Most Americans don't realize that the Danes are fighting along side Americans and Brits in Afganistan and all the other allies. It seems these pesky Viking have been raising the Danish Flag, to anybody who knows the Danes it is as natural as breathing. Anyway these pesky Danes who hold there flag in perhaps more esteem than Old Glory, raised it in a camp in Taliban country to get the Taliban so rilled up so they would attack them. Result between 40 -50 Taliban dead. Danish casualties 0. Perhaps they were sailing a bit close too the wind. The rules of engagement forbids a war of aggression. They have most probably irritated a few sensitive souls in the west, but I am certain a few more of us thick skinned individuals rejoices is the words of Keld Christensen. I can not find out who he is whether he is a spokesman or military, but I suspect military his honesty is so refreshing. Please enjoy it gave me a nice warm feeling. Here is first the Danish statement and the translation afterwards
Målet var at rense området for Taleban. Derfor provokerede vi ham, for at han skulle træde frem fra civilbefolkningen, så vi fik fat i den rigtige.
Så der er ikke tale om en angrebskrig, og vi har overholdt de udvidede rules of engagement, siger Keld Christensen.
The aim was to clear the area of Taleban, therefore we provoked him to get him out from behind the civil population so we could really get at him.
There is no question of a war of aggression we kept to the rules of engagement. Said Keld Chrisitensen
This has deeper consequences which I suspect many Danes will have missed and certainly many of Denmark's allies, Dannebro ( name for Danish Flag) is the real symbol of Danish culture and independence. Not as in America the Bill of Rights. The Flag is important in America but not so important as in Denmark. Symbolism is important in war, and the war we are now engaged in, but not admitted by our elites is beginning to polarize around symbols. Dannebro I suspect is now more hated by Muslims than the Stars and Stripes or the Union Jack, as symbol of western oppression, or what ever excuse they use to justify Jihad. America can brush off such attacks against it symbols, but Denmark because it is so much smaller has greater difficulties. Denmark has a population of 5,000,000 about half the population of New York against a population of 300,000,000 for the whole of the USA. America is out numbered 5 to 1 by Muslims but Denmark is out numbered by 300 to 1 for every Muslim, that makes things very difficult for the Danes
Henrik,
"religeous" islam is not fine. Try to worship Stalin or Hitler for few weeks as a "prophet".
You will see. My Hindu friend tried to worship Allah (Hindus can worship whatever they like) and got mentally ill and had to stop immediately.
Do you want evil to be evil without manifestation (fruits)? This idea is totally crazy. The weakness of the evil - is (in) its manifestation. I am fine with it. There is no deeper instruction than this - except precurrent mental disarray...also a manifestation.
Omar, have much fun with your 72 virgin camels in the sky for all eternity! Bwahahaha!!!
Sorry for the not so serious comment but I just had to do it.
The virgins might blow themselves in order to get into a higher degree heaven defined by an Islamic All-Encompassing Feminist Goddess - the Mother of Allah.
Czechmade, as far as I read the scriptures of Islam, a non-political Islam simply isn't possible. Sorry for being egnimatic, let's make things clear:
It just can't be done.
My Hindu friend tried to worship Allah (Hindus can worship whatever they like) and got mentally ill and had to stop immediately.
Wow. If that's a story I could get for EuropeNews, I'd be delighted to post it.
It seems these pesky Viking have been raising the Danish Flag, to anybody who knows the Danes it is as natural as breathing.
Yup. Just today, I saw hundreds of them in town.
What they did was a really nice stunt! I like this. We're out to get the Taleban, and they have this ugly tendency to hide between civilians (the 'human shield' strategy). That we used our flag to weed them out is super.
Oh. Dannebrog is originally a Crusading symbol. Factually. I actually enjoy seeing it return to the Middle East. It's hard to bring down, as the Taleban experienced.
Henrik
My story is little bit old. But Hindus are the only people to experient freely with anything spiritual without ever thinking of converting really. They approach the god (one of many) - not the religion.
It is very democratic. If the god xy (or one of his local or other manifestations) shows no capacity to
yield something to the voter/follower, they simply switch to another. Meanwhile they are likely to keep special gods connected to their subcast/sect and definitaly their specific family god...but there are countless other options left and they enjoy "testing" those other gods.
Paraphrase of you: "It is as natural as breathing". Mark also that hinduism had no special name in India. No religeous Bismarck or Garibaldi. Nominally the Hindus are
all followers of 4 Vedas.To find some vedic elements in their belief can be often incredibly hard (except Brahmins who worship also many gods with no backing in Vedas).
The Indian term Hindu mat or Sanatan dharm are late responses to our need to name it. Even the word Hindu is a loanword from later Persian usus.
My friend then approached some fakir
(local holy muslim, not an imam-mosque-institution-community-man). In their Indian style of viewing the things he was never exhorted to convert to islam. My friend had some funny story to tell how this "holy man" decided some adultery local cases in favour of all - through his holiness.
Hahaha - no hint of stoning. Just talking!
How to convert to islam without propre radio-god-connection established first? Even Jesus talks to you first...as some muslims testify in our times.
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