Tuesday, September 02, 2008

The Death of Free Speech in the Netherlands

StraitjacketI posted H. Numan’s translation and commentary last night about the webmaster in the Netherlands who was convicted of a criminal offense for “racist” writings posted not by himself, but by a visitor to his site.

The first notice he received that he was criminally liable for the material posted was when the police came to arrest him — there was no prior request to remove the insulting writings.

To add to the injustice, far more offensive and provocative material is routinely posted on Islamist forums and is never subjected to any punishment.

H. Numan pointed out that by attacking a small, little-known website, the Dutch government has managed to set a precedent for the suppression of free speech on the internet. We should expect them to employ this precedent to go after larger and more well-known sites like Gregorius Nekschot and GeenStijl.

If enough bad publicity is created, the Dutch government may back down from its position, so H. Numan wants to help spread the word beyond the Dutch-language sites, and has asked Gates of Vienna to help. Late last night he wrote this in an email:

I know the webmaster of rechtser.com personally. He is conservative, but definitely not an extremist, as the media would like everybody to believe.

He works in security, and as mentioned in the other links, the judge sentenced him to this ‘mild’ sentence as he would otherwise lose his job. Even for a left-wing judge that was taking matters too far. Had he been employed in other work, he probably would have sentenced at least twice as heavily.

He has fourteen days to appeal. A lot of support is coming his way now. Most of it letters of support, but also legal advice and money to help him pay for his appeal.

The system in Holland allows pro deo lawyers. Usually not the very best. But… this is based on one’s income. Only if you are really poor you can sue pro deo. If you are not absolutely destitute, you cannot. Which means that anybody over the poverty level and below the upper class is for all practical purposes not allowed to qualified legal assistance, and cannot afford to appeal.

And Fjordman had this to say on the topic:
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What this means is that Dutch authorities are giving in to demands from Islamic countries and are kneeling at the feet of their new Muslim masters. There can be no doubt that there is considerable political pressure on the police and others to enforce Multicultural speech codes and silence dissenters among the natives.

Since we see clearly that Muslims can post negative remarks about the natives, but the natives are not allowed to post negative remarks about Islamic culture, this means that the natives are de facto second-rate citizens in their own country. This is coincidentally the status that they are supposed to have according to sharia law, which means that the authorities are now enforcing sharia law.

We had a case in Utrecht where the Dutch natives protested against violence from immigrant gangs. They were immediately crushed by the authorities, who do nothing to protect the natives against immigrant violence.

The same thing happened in Brussels, where gangs of Muslim immigrants harass the natives on a daily basis. We have had several recent cases where native girls have been gang raped by immigrants in the heart of the EU capital, yet when the natives wanted to protest against the Islamization of their continent, the demonstration was banned by the Socialist mayor of Brussels, whose ruling party is heavily infiltrated by Muslims. Those who attempted to carry on with a peaceful protest were arrested by the police.

These incidents demonstrate that the elites and the authorities throughout Western Europe are now dedicated to implementing continued mass immigration and Multiculturalism no matter what the natives think. If they object, they will be silenced. The Dutch voted “no” to the proposed EU Constitution, as did the Irish and the French voters, but they are simply ignored. At the same time, the EU elites obediently respond to calls from Islamic countries to ban “stereotypes and prejudice” targeting Islam.

This shows that the European political elites implement the agendas of our enemies and ignore the interests of their own people. They are thus collaborators and traitors and should be treated accordingly. The problem is that they currently feel quite comfortable and secure. They fear the reactions of Muslims, but despise their own people who they view as sheep, existing only to provide them with champagne and nice cars and to be guinea pigs in their grandiose social experiments.

Change will only come when they fear the anger of native Europeans more than they fear Muslims. This means that we must put pressure on them. We should prepare lists of dhimmi collaborators and make perfectly clear that these people are going to stand trial for what they have done. They should not be allowed to hide in the Bahamas with our tax money when the s**t hits the fan.

13 comments:

Joanne said...

"Change will only come when they fear the anger of native Europeans more than they fear Muslims."

So true, and they are all cowards acting like bullies.

CarnackiUK said...

I wonder if the Electronic Frontier Foundation would be interested in this. I see they have a page on International Bloggers' Rights, including a link in Dutch.

OTOH the EFF was supporting CAIR against Michael Savage recently, so it's quite possible they think only leftists and Islamists are entitled to free speech.

Henrik R Clausen said...

CarnarckiUK, I think you should send it to EFF in any case, regardless of what they did with CAIR. They are basically good people, who don't understand the workings of CAIR.

I've reported it to Reporters without Borders and to Freedom House. Will you do EFF?

El said...

relatively easy to pick people off one by one. i have suggested in the past that teams of people 'abusing' their right to freedom of speech in concert and in a manner that cannot be ignored is one way to push back against this. ten people having 'extremist' comments on their websites in unison will get more than ten times the attention of ten people doing it separately and spread out in time. easier said than done, i know, but i still think the point is valid.

moving on, setting up a pan-european defence fund might be a good idea. one rich benefecator willing to put up 100,000 euros could pay off these fines for the next five years. take the fine, don't fight it and incur legal costs unless you can reverse the legal precedent in some useful manner, just give the system the finger and put the same comment up again the week after. what can they do then? fundamentally, they're weak. it's more about intimidating law-abiding citizens with social stigma than applying an iron fist. laugh in their faces and you might win. this too is easier said than done. i know that. but what's our strategy here? do we have one?

it's all about the tao, baby, i-ching, darwin, whatever (i can't quote it properly). you can fight back in the way they understand. or you can throw them the odd curve ball and use their momentum against them. in principle.

by the way, can anyone let me know what the comments in question actually said?

Fjordman said...

Well, the Dutch did get a warning in the early 1990s:

The Downfall of the Netherlands, Land of the Naive Fools by Mohammed Rasoel

Robin Shadowes said...

Good idea. I want these traitors registered as sure as hell they are having us registered although they would never admit to that. If you have any qualms about having these people registered, remember that they have no qualms in having you executed when that day comes.

TC said...

It's the law of the land, remember?

Ever heard of the EU-Framework decision on combating racism and xenophobia?

It's supposed to become national law in all EU "provinces" in early 2009 ...

Martin said...

"We should prepare lists of dhimmi collaborators and make perfectly clear that these people are going to stand trial for what they have done"

I agree....But I think such lists should be used in far more general way...politicians should really know that they are watched and will be potentially responsible for their (mis)deeds. They have privileges, but not responsibility,,,,In past I had some illusions about Western Europe and USA, but after years of interest in politics I am afraid it is not much better than in Czech Republic (where it is really bad....), There may be some exceptions like Denmark....but....perhaps it is the sole one....

Fjordman said...

The EU is becoming more openly totalitarian by the day. According to this Swedish article, the EU is now planning to ban anonymous bloggers. This article is important, so maybe one Swedish reader can translate it.

CarnackiUK said...

Henrik,
I'll be glad to pass on this story to the EFF. I think it would probably be a good idea if the blogger concerned also contacted them.

I wonder if they covered the story of Lionheart and the various other blogger persecutions in Europe.

Bela said...

fjordman,
I try to use this thread to answer to some of you question you have previously asked in regard to Eastern Europe.
I don't want to plunge into a long essay type analysis that may turn off some of our posters; I devised a compressed delineation on the indelible DIFFERENCES between East and West. You can make your conclusion.

1.West: Common historical evolution and interaction in culture, sciences, linguistic ties and comprehension between Western nations.
Current: Renouncement of ethnicity, nationality, culture, a.k.a. Cultural Marxism.

2.East:
The communist regimes suppressed nationalism and imposed communist unity. After communism collapsed between 1989 and 1991, nationalism revived among many of the peoples of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.
Today, the peoples in Eastern Europe speak many different languages. Many Eastern Europeans speak one of a dozen Slavic languages like Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, and Serbo-Croatian. Romanians trace their language back to ancient Rome. Hungarians and Estonians speak languages related to Finnish. Latvian and Lithuanians speak Baltic languages.
The dilemma of ethnic minorities in Eastern Europe involves their desire to hold on to their separate ways, while those in the majority usually pressure them to adopt the national culture and language.

First Difference: NATIONALISM!

Second Difference: Rejection of "Uniformization" what the Communist imposed upon them for 60+ years!

Third Difference: Unresolved ethnic grievances and tensions due to artificial boundaries imposed by major war winning powers.

Fourth Differences: Strong Anti-Semitic, Fascistoid sentiment permeates the society at large:
For example, a New York Times article reasoned (4/10/90), "Since many prominent Hungarian Communist leaders were Jewish, particularly in the early years after the war, anti-Semitism has become linked with anti-Communism." The equation of Jews with Bolsheviks and traitors has been and is the anti-Semite's stock in trade.

The Jewish role in the Communist genocide is still a salient issue unlike in the West where Jews are running Hollywood and the MSM press instead of deporting the Kulaks and the class enemies to the Gulag.

The differences are unbridgeable between East and West so the Marxism dies at East from the Rhine river. My gut feeling is that East will turn into Putin type authoritarian formation if the EU keeps pushing to hard the Muliculturalism and other assorted stupidity.

latté island said...

I like the idea of preparing a list of dhimmi collaborators. But why wait for the future to put them on trial? People who understand the legal issues can try them in absentia, online. Then all sympathetic bloggers can put up Wanted for Treason posters.

joeblough said...

"Change will only come when they fear the anger of native Europeans more than they fear Muslims. This means that we must put pressure on them. We should prepare lists of dhimmi collaborators and make perfectly clear that these people are going to stand trial for what they have done."

Hear hear!!

I couldn't agree more.

The collaborators are motivated by FEAR.

It's all a question of what scares them more.

The good, gentle and civilized people of Europe are going to have to shoulder the unpleasant responsibility of being scarier to the official class than the jihaddis and their agents.

It sucks.

But life sucks.

It will suck worse if nobody takes action.

And I'm right now lifting a glass to Geert Wilders.