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Friday, September 26, 2008

Geert Wilders on Glenn Beck

by Baron Bodissey

Geert Wilders was interviewed on the Glenn Beck show on CNN Headline News last night, and excerpts from Fitna were shown:



Hat tip: heroyalwhyness.

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Baron Bodissey | 9/26/2008 01:41:00 PM

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Blogger Graham Dawson (Archonix) said...

has the multiculti crowd started shrieking yet?

9/26/2008 2:05 PM  
Blogger awake said...

When Beck was trying to process that the ideology of Islam as a whole is inherently violent intolerant and evil, you could almost see the wires snapping in his head.

He started talking about Muslim staffers and didn't seem to actually accept Wilder's truthful claim.

Beck, as many of you know, has claimed to have read the Qur'an from cover to cover.

All in all, Wilders getting this forum is a positive step.

9/26/2008 2:20 PM  
Blogger randian said...

Beck almost but not quite gets it. He still believes there's a distinction between "moderate" and "radical" Islam, no matter how much evidence he receives to the contrary.

9/26/2008 4:25 PM  
Blogger Magnus said...

I think that a notion e.g. Robert Spence has in his books, that some Muslims never has read Quran, and thus don't know how intolerant and violent Islam is, is true.

If you are born in a Muslim family and not much practice religion you may see yourself as culturally a Muslim. But this, of course, doesn't dimminish the problems with Islam.

But no question Islam -- as all its organized representation in the World, according to Quran etc. -- is fascism.

All I say is that not all human beings which feel they have a Muslim backgrund and say they are Muslims as belonging to a Muslim culture doesn't have to realize what Islam is. Warraq Ayaan Hirsi Ali and others has left Islam.

We may be suspicious about- but can not be aggressive towards each and every person who are Muslim/has a Muslim background.

Still the influx of- and the numbers of Muslim is a problem in itself.

A very important problem is also that our society, and our Christian religious leaders, doesn't understand what Islam is.

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(I think, anyway, that Beck very well may be right, that we've already lost to Islam. This was the first time I heard of the wall with the text "Thought shall not kill" which was removed. A dhimmitude I think sums it up.)

9/26/2008 11:35 PM  
Blogger randian said...

If you are born in a Muslim family and not much practice religion you may see yourself as culturally a Muslim.

True, but that doesn't make such a person "safe". Jihadists have had great success recruiting "cultural muslims" to their cause, partly because cultural muslims have no psychological or philisophical tools with which to resist their lure, and partly because the call to "true Islam" resonates with them.

9/27/2008 12:27 AM  
Blogger Shimmy said...

Funny how Glenn Beck NEVER talks anymore about all those dogs he tortured and killed (pit bulls).

9/27/2008 5:58 PM  

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