Saturday, September 17, 2011

German Catholicism Welcomes the Barracks and the Bayonets

German minarets

As Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan famously said, “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.” The German Catholic hierarchy has decided to help the Turkish invaders build their barracks, affix their bayonets, and bring their faithful soldiers into Germany.

Many thanks to JP for translating this article from Katholische Nachrichten:

Hamburg Bishop: Christians should support mosque construction

Auxiliary Bishop Jaschke said: “We Christians support the construction of lovely mosques. I think it is conceivable that Christians will give Muslims presents at the opening of a new mosque.”

Hamburg (kath.net/KNA) — The Hamburg auxiliary bishop Hans-Jochen Jaschke has called for the construction of new mosques in Germany. At the same time he called on Christians symbolically to support the opening of such buildings. “I think that it is conceivable that Christians will give Muslims presents at the opening of a new mosque — as a sign of sympathy, good neighbourliness and religious solidarity,” said the spokesperson for the German Bishop’s conference for interfaith dialogue as reported in Hamburg’s daily paper, Die Welt.

One possibility, for instance, would be a plaque with a verse from the Bible and one from the Koran. The churches could start a collection of money for the financing of a gift, according to the bishop. “We Christians support the construction of beautiful mosques,” says the bishop. People should feel that belief is connected to beauty and culture. However, Jaschke also warned that there are Islamic parallel societies with separate infrastructure found in the vicinity of these mosques.

12 comments:

wheatington said...

Auxiliary bishop Hans-Jochen Jaschke is ignorant and heretical.

He should be removed immediately.

goethechosemercy said...

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“I think that it is conceivable that Christians will give Muslims presents at the opening of a new mosque — as a sign of sympathy, good neighbourliness and religious solidarity,” said the spokesperson for the German Bishop’s conference for interfaith dialogue as reported in Hamburg’s daily paper, Die Welt.
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With conditional respect . . . we are not the Sudeten "Germans" in 1938, Hans-Jochen Jaschke, Hamburg "auxiliary bishop".
In the shadow of those mosques you so revere, sir, Christianity will become more pale than it already is. You have served Mohammed well today.
When are you going to start serving Jesus Christ again?

Salome said...

Let's imagine what kind of presents the Christians could give them. I'm sure some donations to the mosque libraries could be useful. And as for the verse, what about Matthew 7:15 and Qur'an 98:6?

doxRaven said...

The verses and the actions in its name of Islam shows that it is a hostile politico-religous ideology with no peers among religions, but being more akin to the worst socio-politcial ideology that humanity has had to overcome.

I will show compassion to any Muslim in need but I will show only resistance to symbols of Islam.

Hans-Jochen Jaschke you are naiive and and dangerously wrong.

Daniel Cassidy said...

Please keep in mind that this auxiliary bishop speaks for no one but himself.

The closest aide to Pope Benedict XVI, Monsignor Georg Gaenswein, also a German, speaks with far greater authority and has warned against resurgent Islam. He has also said that Pope Benedict's forthright speech at Regensburg was a response to just this kind of naivete.

See: http://www.sunlituplands.org/2007/08/papal-aide-warns-of-islamisation-of.html

cumpa_29 said...

Christianity, along with every other major institution of the West has fallen into decay.
"Niceness" and Pacifisim have been elevated into qualities praised on the Sermon on the Mount.
Jesus was anything but "nice". Being confrontational is what got him killed. He even got physical in the one place where it made the most sense for him to do so: the temple.
Jesus also never said anything about Pacifism being a virtue. Sure, people will beat their swords into plowshares in the Kingdom of Heaven, but not in this place. He even uses the Romans as a legit form example of gov't so long as God is his rightful place. "Render unto Caesar..."
The Romans were NOT shy about self defense, even if it meant offensive war and coercive interrogation (an ugly extension of war). People have a right to organize themselves for self defense and mutual prosperity.

If people were not entitled to defend themselves, what is there to differentiate weakness from the christian virtue of forgiveness and understanding?

Modern-day Christianity all too often elevates weakness into a virtue. A lot of good it is doing us.

Michael Servetus said...

That would be tantamount to supporting falsehood and a heretical source of anti Christian enemy of Christ. Good job auxilliary Bishop.

Islam denies that Christ died and rose. It teaches that Judas was crucified instead and that God transplanted Jesus' face onto Judas. So Christians shoudl support that? Although some would argue Catholics are not real Christians anyway but that is another argument.
This so called bishop who is only a pagan in vestments has no faith at all and shouldn't be anything in the church, what a shame.
I like the way dox raven put it. I can certainly be compassionate to a Muslim person but I would not support or praise anything associated with promoting Islam, not even with a fake smile.

Islam denounces your religion and tells its faithful you are a liar bishop and they have good reason to believe it too since they see yoiu are not faithful or loyal to what you profess to believe but it is only a smile and a game for you and you show yourslf to be a hypocrite while their faithful will die for their religion. Who will you believe is following the sacred? the one who comprimises or th eone who behaves, no matter how awful , as though he were indeed following something sacred.

Egghead said...

cumpa_29: "If people were not entitled to defend themselves, what is there to differentiate weakness from the christian virtue of forgiveness and understanding?"

Brilliant!

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Michael Servetus: "Who will you believe is following the sacred?"

A small point perhaps, but the followers of Islam are Satanic, so neither this God-traitor priest nor any Muslims are following the sacred.

laine said...

Why are all Christian leaders who speak up as dense as this man, and miss the complete lack of reciprocity? Where is the church or synagogue being built in a Muslim land and the local imam offering support and gifts??? This scenario is rejected in 56 out of 56 Muslim countries. Even worse, Christians and members of other religions are actively PERSECUTED including ethnic cleansing, torture and murder in multiple Muslim countries. Where's the Christian leader who says "Mosques have no place in a Christian country as long as even bibles let alone churches are unwelcome in Muslim countries"?

LAW Wells said...

Hans-Jochen Jaschke is a leading Catholic bishop in ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue. I suppose it was good fortune that I was watching The Emperor's Club last night, and was reminded of this line:

Aristophanes once wrote, roughly translated; "Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but STUPID lasts forever."

As a child in the lead-up to Vatican II, and ordained in its immediate aftermath, I alas cannot say that I am surprised.

Ave Maria.

1389 said...

Daniel Cassidy:

You might want to send Msgr. Georg Gaenswein a letter telling him about this situation.

Considering that I am not a Roman Catholic, it would not be appropriate for me to do that.

Anonymous said...

I have no problems with the construction of a mosque in Germany, but for german muslims. I would not like these new constructions to be confused with a false massive immigration invitation for the Turks or other arabs. Germany needs more germans (catholic/muslim or not), not else, no more.

The "Arab Republic of Germany" is upon.

I'm confidence that a lot of german thinks the same.