Not everyone approved of my decision to post that email. It hadn’t enough gravitas or whatever; I was adjudged less than wise to dabble in trivia. As one commenter said:
if you really dont mind 2c of advice from your long-time reader: you are wasting time on this…
No doubt he was right. But these days, since I can’t wave away the fibro fatigue or our straitened circumstances, time is one thing I am permitted to waste in abundance. So I do.
Which brings me to the Hater Mail of the Week. Time was we got one of these annually, but the pace is picking up. The thing is, you can’t tell exactly what his objection is, given the wide bore of his flame-thrower.
Below the fold you’ll find our interlocutor’s “wow”. At least that was in the subject line. As an editor, I would critique his opening salvo. Better yet (even though I often suggest that writers aim for brevity) would have been: “Wow. Just wow”… Yes, ellipsis and all. Then the
Before moving on to his eloquent appraisal, which you will want to attend to carefully, here are the Baron’s rules regarding emails sent to Gates of Vienna:
A reminder to readers: our not publishing your email address long with the contents of your message is a privilege, not a right. We can and may decide to publish unsolicited emails or the addresses of the senders at any time, without warning.
Our general policy is never to publish any portion of any friendly email without the permission of the sender.
When someone sends us an unpleasant or insulting message, we may sometimes choose to post the text without identifying the sender.
When we get really vile hate mail, we may well publish it and include the sender’s name and address. If we’re feeling really, really cranky, we may even include message headers, the IP address, and anything else that might help a technogeek track down the sender.
This remains our prerogative. If we seem to be showing restraint, it’s because we’re basically nice guys. But even nice guys get ticked off occasionally.
Now I doubt that ol’ Robert Frescas has jumped into the fray without being deeply disguised. When the header says localhost (localhost.loopback… you have to figure this craven ankle-biter is not going to make himself available for your considered response to his call-out. But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe this email address is valid enough to receive your answers.
Here’s his email, succinct, fresh (just like his name!), and wittily original. If you have any trouble with the big words, just let us know. Needless to say, there were no asterisks in the original:
From: Robert Frescas robert@robertfrescas.us To: gatesofvienna@chromatism.net Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:30:54 –0500 Subject: wow
You people are totally brain dead…go f*** yourselves
Robert
Ah, Robert, you divil, you. That message gave the Baron just the excuse he needed. He is determined to follow your sage advice, despite my protestations that I’m “busy”. Now I’m claiming a headache…but as my husband just pointed out, since I’m “totally brain dead” that rationale won’t fly either. Let’s see, where did I leave that golf club?
The Baron is curious about what might have finally pulled the pin on Robert. So much of what we post is offensive; it’s hard to choose. Was he responding to the Baron’s WAYCIST post from last night? Or was it Fjordman’s WAYCIST post from earlier today? Who knows…it could have been something from 2005 which moved him to open his email and start blasting away.
At least Mr. Frescas was observant enough to use the plural “you people” which means he noticed there is more than one person posting here. That’s more attention than some people give.
I googled his name, but the only likely suspect was an obituary notice in California. Ah well.
If you’re moved to create a dialogue with this person, have at it, with our compliments. He may turn out to be a worthy interlocutor, though first appearances don’t bode well for that. And who knows, that email may be genuine.
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Actually, you are quite possibly violating copyright laws by publishing someone's email without their permission.
Eileens daft I tell ya. And I bet shes ugly too.
Hmm... if we were brain dead we wouldn't be able to post here.
And despite his ability to turn on a computer and web surf, Robert is apparently unable to put together a coherent objection since all he can do is curse.
Maybe if Robert would return and explain what we are all brain dead about, maybe his comments would hold some small sliver of relevance.
Now that you've warned people that they waive their right to privacy by sending you offensive email, I doubt that they have any valid cause for complaint.
And if they come out of the woodwork to try to collect anything from you (copyright law is civil, not criminal, law), then you'll know for sure where they live, and can call the police about any threats that they have made.
Nah...I'd just tell Ann Barnhardt about them. They'd be sorry they ever saw daylight.
Heh.
Bless the internet :)
We can now go for a visit
Or write an email to his other address
Or even call him...
Domain Name: ROBERTFRESCAS.US
Registrant Name: Robert Frescas
Registrant Address1: 568 Marquette
Registrant Address2: 103A
Registrant City: Colorado Springs
Registrant State/Province: Colorado
Registrant Postal Code: 80911
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.7193580463
Registrant Email: gr8patriot@gmail.com
@Eileen O'Connor:
Not sure about US law - European Law states that a private letter sent to a private person becomes the property of that person. We too have privacy of correspondence, but this applies to the recipient - not the sender.
I have reason to believe that this also applies to the US because,
ff this were not so, then a poison pen letter could never be handed over to the FBI.
There's a guy named Robert4 on TypePad who likes to "follow" and harass anti-jihadist posters - especially on Atlas Shrugs.
I think that he "followed" me here months ago and shows up again from time to time.... :(
Robert4 screams like a stuck pig if you answer his stupid comments in a cogent manner. Oink. Oink. Oink.
gsw - In the US, emails (as letters) are definitely copyrighted as of the time of creation, i.e. they are the property of the writer -- never of the recipient.
The facts contained within an email (letter) may be shared, but not the actual writing, verbatim, as that is the property of the creator.
There is, of course, the right to reproduce something under the fair use clause, but then one enters a gray area in which fair use is not clearly defined. It becomes a matter of argument (and, potentially, a decision by a judge).
That is why in my original comment I said that GoV are possibly violating (US) copyright laws.
A notice is an excellent idea, but one needs to give notice first, not afterhand. (Not sure if this is what GoV has done or not.) A clear notice in the left-hand menu column that any and all emails received by GoV may be published on the site might be a good idea.
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