Tuesday, January 06, 2009

Land for Peace Doesn’t Work

Below is a magnificent op-ed from De Volkskrant, written by Geert Wilders and Martin Bosma, who are both PVV members of the Dutch Parliament. The translation is by our indefatigable Flemish correspondent VH:

Land for peace doesn’t work
by Geert Wilders and Martin Bosma

It is one of the central doctrines of the Leftists’ church: “land for peace.”

That was supposed to put an end to the conflict in the Middle East. These days we encounter the definite end of that dream. The Israeli army last Sunday returned to Netzarim. Three years ago, Netzarim and other so-called ‘settlements’ were abandoned as a part of the framework of disengagement. This withdrawal should have then led to peace. But 5,000 arguments for a different reality rained down in the form of Kassam rockets on the residents of the Negev.

“Land for Peace” is a medicine based on the wrong diagnosis. The war against Israel is not a territorial conflict and thus can not be solved with territorial concessions. Giving away an area does not help. Hamas cum suis are not fighting for pieces of land but for the total final victory of Islam, to which the rapid destruction of Israel is only a transitional stage. The conflict is jihad, the violent duty of every Muslim. Israel is located on the fault line of the dar-al-Islam and dar-al-Harb. To Islam, all of Israel is occupied territory and Tel Aviv is as much a “settlement” as was Netzarim. The Hamas charter doesn’t know the word ‘polder model’.

Encouragement

The withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 was a huge encouragement to aggressive Islam. What the West convulsively tried to view as a step towards peace is translated by true Muslims as a sign of weakness. The 5,000 rockets from Gaza were therefore the logical consequence of an ideology that seeks to destroy the West. Samuel Huntington, who ironically enough died in the week before the first bombing of Hamas, already wrote it: “Islam has bloody borders”. You can move those bloody borders of Islam, but with that you only shift the jihad. What does it show? “Settlements” are no barrier to peace, but a barrier against terror.

Muslims view the conflict as an Islam-related conflict. It is not without reason that during pro-Hamas demonstrations over the whole world “Allahu akhbar” is prominently chanted. Saturday this was illustrated when Muslim colonizers demonstrated in Amsterdam, together with the extreme Left. The SP (Harry van Bommel), the Olive Trees Campaign/ICCO (from Doekle Terpstra), and the inevitable Gretta Duisenberg showed how much the Left in the Netherlands has merged with Islam and hatred of Israel.

My colleague Van Bommel showed without the slightest embarrassment his true extreme face by publicly and loudly calling for another intifada against Israel. The Left demonstrates with flags of Hamas and Hezbollah, along with portraits of Khomeini and the Hezbollah leader Nasrallah.

The fight against Israel is a fight against Europe and the Netherlands

Seventy years after Auschwitz, in the streets of Amsterdam, partly at the expense of the taxpayer, sounds the cry “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas.” This is what Doekle the Dhimmi [Doekle Terpstra, Christian Democrat] apparently means with his “benoemen en bouwen” [“naming and building”]. Would he view the Jew Haters of Saturday as moderate Muslims?
- - - - - - - - -
Therefore, never give away any more land to the Arabs. But what then? To begin with, there is already a Palestinian state, and that is Jordan. This land covers nearly eighty percent of the historic Palestine. Most residents of Jordan are Palestinians, for instance queen Rania. Those who are looking for a territorial solution have thus found it. An eventual second Palestinian state is no improvement, but rather an encouragement for more jihad and thus more bloodshed. Judea and Samaria, the heart of Israel, must therefore remain in the hands of Israel whatever the cost, with Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the Jewish state.

Deterrence

The war against Israel is permanent because it is jihad. However, the conflict can be made manageable and the Netherlands can play a role in this. To begin with, deterrence should again be the cornerstone of the Israeli security policy. That used to be so until Israel in 1992 surrendered to the Oslo wishing dream. The Netherlands must help to press forward the notion that Israel is fighting for the West and therefore must not give in to the Arabs. Not an inch. If Israel falls, Europe is next. Israel is our first defensive frontline. The fight against Israel is a fight against Europe and the Netherlands.

The billions that the EU and the UN in past years dumped down the endless drain in Gaza must be reversed. The Palestinians have done nothing positive with the money, apart from making it serve the madly popular Hamas terror. It would be good to invest that money in masterful Israeli science and high-tech. The tiny state of Israel has grown to become a global center where the brightest minds in the world are creating inventions on a daily basis that have been a blessing for all mankind. Such a change will provide a boost to the Israeli economy. This success shows the whole world that Israel is not of transitory nature, but a persistent source of progress.

Would it not be great if the money that now goes to the terrorist infrastructure of Hamas, might be used by, for example, the Weizman Institute in Rechovot to find a cure for Alzheimer’s disease or multiple sclerosis? International aid money, not for death and destruction but for a future to our sick and elderly. A more beautiful beginning of the new year is cannot be imagined.

And to the Israeli army: kol hakawod, all success! You fight for us too.

Geert Wilders and Martin Bosma are respectively fraction leader and member of the Party for Freedom (PVV) in the Parliament of The Netherlands and recently visited Israel.

VH adds this material on Doekle Terpstra, translated from Het Vrije Volk:

Doekle Terpstra must leave the Public Broadcasting organization after the pro-Hamas-march;

Stop state subsidy to the ICCO


The Party for Freedom [PVV] wants Minister of Education, Culture and Science, Plasterk [PvdA, Labour], to remove Doekle Terpstra from the Supervisory Board of the Netherlands Public Broadcasting organization. Last Saturday, ICCO (“interchurch organization for development cooperation”, with Terpstra as Chairman of the board) organized a pro-Hamas march in Amsterdam where an intifada against Israel was called for.

Demonstrators displayed Hamas and Hezbollah flags, plus portraits of Khomeini and Sheikh Yassin. In addition, texts such as “Israel repeats the Holocaust” and “Israel burn in hell” were displayed, and the Israeli flag was trampled underfoot. There were chants such as “Hamas, Jihad, Hezbollah,” and “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas.” The subsidy of the Minister for Development Cooperation [Bert Koenders, PvdA, Labour] to ICCO should be discontinued immediately, says Wilders, PVV-parliamentarian and Bosma [MP for the PVV].

PVV media spokesman Martin Bosma: “The demonstration was amongst others organized by the Olive Trees Campaign, a club that is funded by the ICCO. The President of that club is Doekle Terpstra. Terpstra [who earlier this year called Wilders “the evil that has to be stopped”] is financing pro-Hamas activities. Hamas wants the immediate destruction of Israel and the rest of the Holocaust. Someone who sits in the extremist quarter like Terpstra does is not credible to continue monitoring the public broadcaster that claims to be ‘of us all, for all of us.’ Doekle must go!

“The publicly-funded organization ICCO subsidizes a demonstration together with the International Socialists, the Communist Party, Milli Gorus and the Palestine Committee. These are the friends of Doekle Terpstra. In the newspaper Trouw he announces that he wants to join the initiative ‘Eén land, één samenleving’ [‘One country, One Society’], of the professional extremist Mohamed Rabbae [who advocated a successful ban on the book The Downfall of The Netherlands, laughed at 9-11, and called Wilders ‘a little Hitler’]. Should we pay such a man any longer with our tax money? Terpstra can take care of himself very well. He earns a lot in the Higher Education Board, and has commissionerships with the Grontmij, Aegon, and Unilever. He is chairman of the ICCO.”

The Party for Freedom finds Terpstra unfit to be a member of the Supervisory Board of the Public Broadcasting organization. Terpstra believes that freedom of expression must be curtailed. He finds that “freedom should not be used to offend.” Someone like that is not fit to monitor public broadcasting.

10 comments:

Afonso Henriques said...

Perfect.

I agree with pretty much Geert Wilders said and he also shows a discernment to go deeper that very few people do.

"there is already a Palestinian state, and that is Jordan. This land covers nearly eighty percent of the historic Palestine. Most residents of Jordan are Palestinians, for instance queen Rania."

Indeed. I've been thinking about it too. Why not give "Cisjordania" to Jordan and the Gaza strip to Egypt?
That does not happen becaus they do not want an united and strong Israel, they do not mind sacrifice the Palestinian-Israeli Arabs as martyrs for the cause of islam. Israel is really the front line; like Greece; like Armenia, like the Balkans...

Great Wilders, just perfect. And while we speak, Islam is penetrating deep in Africa...

Zelhar said...

Kol Hakavod Mr Wilders and Mr Bosma. They see reality as it is and have the courage to face it.

USpace said...

.
Geert Wilders illustrates it quite well. More people should talk up the fact he talks about that "there is already a Palestinian state, and that is Jordan. This land covers nearly eighty percent of the historic Palestine. Most residents of Jordan are Palestinians, for instance queen Rania."

Hamas is what makes Gaza much worse than it could be. If they would give up the dream of destroying Israel and stopped all missiles and suicide bombers, and all terrorist attacks, Israel would welcome doing business with them, and things would be peaceful.

There is no negotiating with a mad man, or with Jihadis who want to die to go get their 72 virgins.
I hope Israel doesn't quit too early. If Israel is destroyed, terrorism in the rest of the world will just increase, it will never stop, as long as there are Radical, or rather, Fundamentalist Muslim.
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
let someone hit you

over and over again
and NEVER hit back harder

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
DO NOT defend your country

from terrorist monkeys
just let them bomb you at will

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
BOMB kindergartens

then piss and moan and whine
when their parents bomb you back

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never mock Hamas

it's just their religion
you RIGHT-WING INFIDEL
.
All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
.
Philosophy of Liberty Cartoon
.
Help Stop Terrorism Today!
.
USpace

:)
.

Zenster said...

There is only one "Land for Peace" deal that will work.

For every bullet fired into Israel by the Palestinians, another hectare of Gaza or West Bank land is absorbed, PERMANENTLY. Never to be given back, EVER.

For every rocket launched into Israel, a square kilometer of land is taken, never to be returned.

For every bomb vest detonated inside Israel, ten square kilometers of land disappears.

If land is so precious to these murdering thugs, let's see just how long they can go on attempting genocide as they eventually crowd themselves onto a postage stamp sized parcel of remaining land.

We, all of us, know that land means nothing in comparison to the opportunity to continue genocide against the Jews. There will never be any land for peace because the Muslims do not seek a peaceful land.

leadpb said...

It is good that Jordan was mentioned in the Palestinian context here. No one ever seems to recall in discussions of "the ME problem" that Jordan was also created by the British, politically and territorially speaking. They worked with the extended royal family in Saudi Arabia in a sort of nepotism by proxy to create the Hashemite Kingdom.

But there is some line between the ruling class in Jordan and everyday Palestinians. They clearly do not want more of the latter in their country. Not only would they be a problem for Jordan itself but the militant Paletinians and their legion supporters represent a violent Islamic front that no Arab state has the will to adopt by itself lest they endanger their own dictatorships. Independent terrorist organisations are too valuable an asset for the Islamic jihad-- and funded all along by the dhimmi West.

Recall during one of the first airline highjackings in the early 1970s when the plane landed safely in Jordan, all passengers OK, and the authorities there killed all the terrorists on principle. Then they went after their collaborators in neighborhoods of Amaan, etc., and killed another 2000 or so Jordanian Palestinians.

The idea that Jordan would take in a portion of the humanity of Gaza or Judea-Samaria as a "share of responsibility" seems far-fetched. At the same time it also seems like a good idea, but where is the incentive? Jordan and Israel have good relations and it is difficult to see the latter applying the tremendous pressure necessary to push Gazans-- ideally most or all of them-- into Jordan.

But one can dream...

leadpb said...

That's Amman, not Amaan.

hadley said...

Pushing them into the sea sounds fine, but at least give them a few years advance notice. Even Hitler gave the Jewish nation a few years warning.

Give them a fixed time to immigrate -- say five years -- and then start pushing them out. If they cannot find some country that will take them, tell them its their own fault or blame the other countries, THEN round them up and put them in camps. With no electricity, limited medical care, limited food, you could probably rely on typhus or cholera to do the rest of the job.

I just think it would be seen as unfair, if, after having been given a several year grace period to leave Germany in the 1930's the Jewish nation would not give a similar grace period to the Arabs.

Of course, for all the talk of a Giant Worldwide Muslim Conspiracy, the reality is that none of the other Muslim nations give a r@t's @ss what happens to the Palestinians and won't take them in, so you would still have an unholy human mess on your hands in the end (the Germans sure did!). But like I say, measures can be taken.

leadpb said...

No one wants the Palestinians in their own (Muslim) country, yet they are useful where they are now as simultaneous aggressors and victims. A neat trick.

Yes, some time frame would have to be given, five years sounds about right. If Israel is going to be consistently hated by so many, bullied by the UN, threatened with annihilation, ad nauseam, why not go for the whole enchilada? One can always accept less than what is ideal but only if that ideal was committed to in the first place.

The ethnographically ideal Israel to my thinking is strongly dominated demographically and politically by Jewish people together with a minority of assimilated Arabs and others. Why not aim for such a goal for the whole country? In the USA, only when the South was firmly defeated was peace possible.

The Palestinians have painted themselves into a corner and deserve special, separate consideration.

Bruce Graeme said...

Let us agree that the history of the Middle East would be entirely different without the State of Israel, which opened a wound between Islam and the West. Can you get rid of Muslim terrorism without getting rid of this wound which is the source of the frustration of potential terrorists? - Jose Arthur Giannotti

* Jewish organizations find it advantageous to the Jewish agenda to push for multi-racialism and, multi-culturalism.

* The Jewish community has been an ardent supporter of multiculturalism since the introduction of this policy. ["We believe that Jews, are safer in multicultural societies which are generally more respectful of and accepting of difference."- www.kinetichosting.com.au/jccv/content-files/Multicultural%20Affairs%20policy%20submission ].

* Nonwhite immigration (1965 immigration 'reform')

* Antiwhite discrimination (1964 'Civil Rights' act et seq)

* Hate crime laws (ADL)

* "the cancer of history"- Susan Sontag
----

To me the Zionists, who want to go back to the Jewish state of 70 AD (destruction of Jerusalem by Titus), are just as offensive as the Nazis. With their nosing after blood, their ancient 'cultural roots', their partly canting, partly obtuse winding back of the world, they are altogether a match for the National Socialists. - Victor Klemperer, 13 June 1934

We're fed this inert

this lying phrase

like comfort food

as another little Palestinian boy

in trainers jeans and a white teeshirt

is gunned down by the Zionist SS

whose initials we should

- but we don't - dumb goys -

clock in that weasel word crossfire

Tom Paulin

USpace said...

.
It seems as though the phony idea of phony 'multiculturalism' is backfiring on everyone, especially the Jews.

Hamas is what makes Gaza much worse than it could be. If they would give up the dream of destroying Israel and the Jews and stopped all missiles and suicide bombers, and all terrorist attacks, Israel would welcome doing business with them, and things would be peaceful. But they can't do this as long as they follow their Koran strictly.

There is no negotiating with a mad man, or with Jihadis who want to die to go get their 72 virgins.
I hope Israel doesn't quit too early. If Israel is destroyed, terrorism in the rest of the world will just increase, it will never stop, as long as there are Radical Muslims, or rather, Muslim Fundamentalists; who are appeased, defended, and kissed up to.
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
hope your kids grow up

to strap bombs on babies
to kill other children

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
form a terrorist country

then wish to be destroyed
by committing acts of war

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
blame your failings on the Jews

for a few more thousand years
they are Earth's scapegoats

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
give Israel away

to appease her enemies
dishonor America
.