Wednesday, August 06, 2008

Throwing Money at the Palestinians

Without the financial support of the West, particularly the European Union, the Palestinian Authority would be unable to function. Continual infusions of European and American cash are required if the charade of a viable “government” is to be maintained in Gaza and the West Bank.

Sweden, already well-known as a benefactor of Hamas and Fatah, has recently decided to send the Palestinians yet more money. According to an official announcement released late last month, the Swedish government has issued another 50 million kronor to the PA in emergency aid.

Here’s a translation from the Regeringskansliet website, kindly translated into English by our Swedish correspondent HL:

SWEDEN INCREASES THE AID TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITIES

Today the government has decided to put aside 50 million kronor [approx. US $8.18 million] in direct aid to the Palestinian authorities.

  • The Palestinian authorities are in a dire economic situation and it is running the risk of collapsing if salaries among other things cannot be paid. A functioning Palestinian authority is a prerequisite for a peaceful and stable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. To us it has therefore been important to be able to give Prime Minister [Dr. Salam] Fayyad a fast and positive answer, says foreign aid minister Gunilla Carlsson.

Sweden is one of the biggest donors to the Palestinians
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During 2008 the total Swedish support is expected to amount to around 700 million kronor [approx. US $114 million]. A smaller part of the Swedish aid has also been transferred as a direct grant previously during this year. During the spring, the need for extensive support to the Palestinian authorities became all the more obvious, and Prime Minister Fayyad’s appeal for increasing the direct aid has been acknowledged by the highest international association for donation-coordination, the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (AHLC)

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The depraved pathology of “Palestine” can only be maintained by the misplaced generosity of the West. Proportionally speaking, Sweden and Norway are among the greatest enablers of the Palestinian behavioral sink, but the contributions given by the United States are just as appalling.


Hat tip: LN.

20 comments:

Zenster said...

A functioning Palestinian authority is a prerequisite for a peaceful and stable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Hold it right there. Does everybody notice the false premise? "A functioning Palestinian authority" is nothing but a terrorist network in striped pants.

If Western sugar daddies weren't so busy pouring money into the hands of these thugs and goons maybe they'd have to find some real jobs. Jobs that might keep them so damn busy they just wouldn't have time to commit their usual terrorist atrocities.

How many BILLIONS of dollars have these sand leeches hoovered up already?

What have they got to show for it? Other than dead Jews, that is.

What prospect is there that ANY amount of money will turn things around?

Most importantly, WHY DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE PALESTINIANS WANT TO "TURN THINGS AROUND"?

After all, why should they change what is clearly a winning strategy? The Palestinians sit back, make all the appropriate hand-waving gestures and rake in the dough while murdering more Israelis. What's not to like? Unless you're a Jew, that is.

Implicit in any "peaceful and stable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict" is the existence of Israel. Any such notion of recognizing Israel is nothing short of a catastrophic outcome for the Muslim Arab world.

How can so many supposedly better-informed state departments and diplomats not comprehend the basic nature of undieing Arab hatred for the Jews? The Arabs seek no rapproachment nor do they want any peaceful resolution beyong the peace of the grave for every single Israeli.

All that the Palestinians deserve is the back of this world's collective hand. That this vicious and cynical charade continues is testament to how blind adherence to a preferred narrative trumps reality. Unless you're a Jew, that is.

Proud Infidel said...

The Baron said:
"Proportionally speaking, Sweden and Norway are among the greatest enablers of the Palestinian behavioral sink, but the contributions given by the United States are just as appalling."

Exactly. It's bad enough the EU is helping fund that insane slaughterhouse known as The Palestinians, but that the US, which is the object of their most intense hatred along with Israel, should send them money and arms is beyond insane. What ever money is sent is stolen by the thugs in charge and/or spent on more weapons and explosives. You are arming and supporting our enemies, you dingbats!

The idiocy of our government, whether it's run by Democrats or Republicans, can be appalling.

Henrik R Clausen said...

What's happening here is that PA, Fatah, Hamas or whatever Islamist-de-jour group has the most guns this month, is holding their own population in a state of desperation to exploit the goodwill (naiveté) of the West. If we stop funding them, they *will* let their populations sink into ever deeper states of despair, hoping that we'll open the wallet again.

They should ask money from their Arab friends instead.

Making strict ("NO rockets!") conditions on our aid, and sticking to our strictness, would probably help. But we need to treat them like the spoiled kids they are.

Fred said...

Ask the Swedish women of Malmo and Stockholm if paying tons of jizya to the Ummah in Sweden and the Middle East has bought them any safety or respect.

Graham Dawson (Archonix) said...

Exactly. It's bad enough the EU is helping fund that insane slaughterhouse known as The Palestinians, but that the US, which is the object of their most intense hatred along with Israel, should send them money and arms is beyond insane.

Distance and denial. Private donators (and, to a far lesser extent, the US government itself) funded the IRA for years despite the fact that they were regularly blowing up civilians. As far as they were concerned it was "over there" and easy to ignore the reality in favour of the idealised image of the "troubles".

Denial and distance. Israel is a long, long way away and the reality of what the palestinians do every single day is easy to ignore when it isn't happening on your own doorstep.

pasta said...

@Henrik R Clausen

"Making strict ("NO rockets!") conditions on our aid, and sticking to our strictness, would probably help. But we need to treat them like the spoiled kids they are."

You have a disturbing habit of aligning your stance to the positions accepted in mainstream political discourse. First you didn't want your country to leave the EU, now you insinuate that we could just as well continue to fund the PA and justify this by belittling the Palastinians as "spoiled kids".

No, the Palastinians are not our children, and I vehemently reject any paternal responsibility for them. They are not our concern. If we want to rescue Western civilization, then we must start fighting for our own survival now. Giving money to the Palastinians is unacceptable, not only because they threaten Israel, but because we need all the money for ourselves, for stimulating childbirths by our own people, for supporting the coming masses of old, dependent people, for guarding our borders, for rebuilding our military forces, so that they can fight or keep in check the existing and coming Islamic regimes threatening to attack us (like Iran) or supporting terrorists who attack us (like the Taliban). The times when the we were strong and our rule over the world undisputed, are long gone. We must take care of ourselves now and let the rest of the world take care of itself on its own.

Furthermore, the idea of a Palastinian people ever achieving economic self-sufficiency, is a pipe dream. Take the Gaza strip: its population density is now higher than that of the cities like Berlin or Munich, yet the average woman in the Gaza strip has no less than 5.5 children in her lifetime. Such an extreme population explosion in the absence of any natural resources, can only result in absolutely abhorrent living conditions, therefore the economic dependency on foreign donors can only increase with time, thus making the financial support ever more expensive. But I repeat, this is not our concern as we are busy fighting for own survival now. But if Israel wants to defuse the ever-growing threat posed by the Palastinians, it must come up with a plan, and one very different from the policies pursued in the past, as those led to the disaster that we have today.

Natalie said...

Somehow I never realised that we (as in the west) funded these people. It vexes me greatly that we do.

Henrik, care to clarify your last paragraph? I'm not sure I understand what you mean...

Henrik R Clausen said...

Yes, I'll gladly clarify. Europe, and EU in particular, is priding itself with its 'soft power'. That is, in reality, 'no power', and as Fjordman pointed out in another post, we simply play sucker.

Now, when I called the Palestinians 'spoiled kids', it's because they've been getting away with way too much evil, and we *still* send them money and food. A sucker's game if I ever saw any.

Even the National Danish television, which is infected with leftwingers all over the place, plays along with the propaganda about the poor, suppressed Palestinians.

What I'm suggesting is that we do what one usually does with spoiled brats, to be truely strict to them. Rocket falling on Sredot or attack on Israel? Cut power immediately for 24 hours, so the civilians get to feel the consequence of the radicals. For each rocket fired, cut a noticeable amount of aid to the relevant area (Gaza or West Bank), and ignore the propaganda that will inevitably follow.

On one side, this should stimulate responsible elements along the Palestinians, and encourage them to stop the radical groups. And if that doesn't work (which I simply can't predict), we'll be terminating our aid, based on bad behaviour on the ground. It is likely - but not certain - that the radicals will not let themselves be reined in by such measures.

Sure, it's closer to mainstream thinking. But I believe it would be effective, as well as more likely to be adopted than a proposal to simply stop funding the criminals.

As for EU, the problems we're having are not really specific to Denmark. All other member states have the same constitutional dilemma as we do, and they need help exposing and fixing this. Just look at the pivotal role Jens-Peter Bonde played at the Irish referendum. It works.

Zenster said...

Henrik R Clausen: Rocket falling on Sredot or attack on Israel? Cut power immediately for 24 hours, so the civilians get to feel the consequence of the radicals. For each rocket fired, cut a noticeable amount of aid to the relevant area (Gaza or West Bank), and ignore the propaganda that will inevitably follow.

You do realize what you are calling for, don't you?

[fill in frantic liberal shrieks plus their usual pissing and moaning over *gasp* COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT!]

After all, weren't the Nazis big fans of collective punishment? Let's all please neglect how defeating Nazi Gernamy required adopting some of their same strategies. What you are recommending is a low-level form of the Massively Disproportionate Retaliation that I insist will probably be required to discourage further Islamic terrorist atrocities.

Be it Israel and the Palestinians or the West and Islam in general, Muslims have yet to feel our pain. They are skinless people living in a sandpaper world and, yet, somehow we have managed to protect them from the consequences of their own malicious acts.

I think that, in response to another 9-11 atrocity, it would be far wiser to have an entire major Muslim city disappear than to continue this titty-fingered appeasement of Islam.

Cut power in Gaza? You know damn well that some kid will fall, or be pushed, down a stairwell and then Israelis will be called child murderers! Not that they aren't already. I give you the al Dura fraud in answer.

Better to begin inflicting some real harm upon those sworn to destory us, such that they gain a thorough understanding of what awaits their further enmity, rather than coddling these shameless vipers for even another nanosecond.

What Israel endures is but a microcosm of that which Islam intends for the West. All historical evidence points towards such a conclusion and numerous other cultures no longer exist for thinking otherwise.

pasta said...

@Natalie:

"Somehow I never realised that we (as in the west) funded these people. It vexes me greatly that we do."

And worse: We take these people into our countries as refugees. Even dangerous terrorists! I know of one case in 2002, when Israel gave amnesty to 13 dangerous Palastinian terrorists and European countries agreed to take them in. Our countries are the refuse dump of the whole world!

Henrik R Clausen said...

You know damn well that some kid will fall, or be pushed, down a stairwell and then Israelis will be called child murderers!

As above, we need to ignore the propaganda retaliation that will come. It's just emotional blackmail.

Anyway, this doesn't constitute 'collective punishment'. It's just stopping doing favors to those who do harm. Israel provides Gaza with electricity. For what reason? Palestinians can construct their own power plants.

I don't think it makes sense to retaliate with large-scale murder. Just stop giving in to blackmail, and the blackmailers will have to find alternative means of doing business to survive.

pasta said...

@Henrik R Clausen

I have no idea how on earth we should stand a snowball's chance in hell to save ourselves and our countries unless we finally realize that we are not guilty for the suffering of other people, we are victims (yes!) of mass colonization and we are in danger. You didn't say why we should fund the PA in the first place. You didn't say why we are supposed to be responsible for helping out and defending other people in a different continent. It eludes me why you take a stance in favor of a foreign people and against your own.

"Sure, it's closer to mainstream thinking. But I believe it would be effective..."

Effective in what? If it will be effective at all (I don't believe it), then in protecting Israel. It will not be effective in making the Palastinians economically self-sufficient, it will not be effective in stopping the extraordinary population explosion, it will only be effective in enslaving our own people to forever fund a foreign people ever increasing amounts of money.

", as well as more likely to be adopted than a proposal to simply stop funding the criminals."

Why is that? Because we still accept parental responsibility for the whole world, and even accept universal guilt for everything that's going wrong elsewhere, while our own countries are on the brink of collapsing and our own people are becoming a minority in their home countries very soon now. We urgently need a fundamental change in our attitude, we need to see ourselves not as all-powerful and invulnerable, but as equally powerless as other nations and endangered. If we don't help ourselves now, nobody will come to our rescue!

"As for EU, the problems we're having are not really specific to Denmark. All other member states have the same constitutional dilemma as we do, and they need help exposing and fixing this. Just look at the pivotal role Jens-Peter Bonde played at the Irish referendum. It works."

It works? You mean, the EU suddenly stopped its cunning ways and is reforming itself? Don't you realize that the EU is outright dangerous? What is happening now, the EU reigning into Danish sovereignty in crucial political issues, has happened before, many times, for decades. It happens again now, what on earth makes you believe that it will stop, ever?

Henrik R Clausen said...

You didn't say why we should fund the PA in the first place.

Because they're well-intentioned, honest, uncorruptible and peaceful, of course :)

Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to fund these criminals. But we're deep into doing so, and need to find a way to stop it. Setting real conditions - and a time limit - would be a good way. The 'Gutmenschen' of the EU etc. have a lot of influence, we need to find a way to be effective. Exposing the criminal nature of the PA (formerly PLO) is an effective way to do so. When this has been proven, in minute detail, funding will stop.

Don't you realize that the EU is outright dangerous?

I do, and I wrote about it here The Great Deception Part 1 and The Great Deception Part 2.

What I do refuse to do, though, is to panic. We work from where we are, figure out who are our genuine friends, and proceed from here. Which this month means following the Danish constitutional crisis closely.

Something else we need is for more people to raise the awareness of the criminal ways of the Palestinians. Not only here, in the media that most people read. That is needed in order to stop funding criminal behaviour.

Henrik R Clausen said...

it will only be effective in enslaving our own people to forever fund a foreign people ever increasing amounts of money.

I think you're overestimating the likelihood that the Palestinians will be able to control the radicals. They won't, and we can close our coffers.

pasta said...

@Henrik R Clausen:

"Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to fund these criminals. But we're deep into doing so, and need to find a way to stop it."

Do you - or does anybody else - know when and why we started funding them? You are right, we have dug ourselves into a deep hole here:

- Supporting the PA means supporting Israel's enemies and thus invites the accusation of Antisemitism.
- In order to defend against this accusation, we end up having to fund Israel as well, which is in fact what we are doing. The stench of antisemitism, however, remains.
- Should we ever fail to sufficiently fund the PA and, as a consequence, a humanitarian disaster breaks out, who will be held responsible? WE.

I want to know how this all began.

"The 'Gutmenschen' of the EU etc. have a lot of influence, we need to find a way to be effective. Exposing the criminal nature of the PA (formerly PLO) is an effective way to do so."

Much more effective would be to make people realize that we ow the world nothing and that we can be victims, too and are, in fact, the big, big losers of our times and our survival is seriously in danger.

While I appreciate any other ploy which leads to us stop funding the PA, I prefer to support parties and politicians who attack the idea of "white guilt" head-on.

Henrik R Clausen said...

A functioning Palestinian Authority

Swedish dreamworld...

The sleight of hand by renaming the old, corrupt terrorist org PLO to now be Palestinian Authority worked wonders. How easily were're deceived :(

Fröken Sverige said...

"Blogger Fred said...

Ask the Swedish women of Malmo and Stockholm if paying tons of jizya to the Ummah in Sweden and the Middle East has bought them any safety or respect."

No - it just gives 15% more rapes - every year. I am not sure, but I think we (Sweden) have more rapes than any other western country in the world.

We have abot 8-9 times more rapes than in Norway and Denmark.

So..."paying tons of jizya to the Ummah in Sweden and the Middle East " is just "helping" us to live our lives in fear, instead of safety.

/FS

Zenster said...

Henrik R Clausen: I don't think it makes sense to retaliate with large-scale murder.

Was Dresden "large-scale murder"?

I think that pasta is onto something in noting your "disturbing habit of aligning your stance to the positions accepted in mainstream political discourse."

We are at war with Islam, whether we want to admit it or not. Most certainly, Islam is already at war with us. The sooner we stop pretending that this isn't so, the less people—Western and Muslim—that will needlessly die.

Henrik R Clausen said...

Was Dresden "large-scale murder"?

Indeed it was. And massive destruction of cultural heritage, too.

I'm not requesting anyone to share my fundamental dislike of killing people. This opinion is *mine*, I want to keep it :)

That said, I think shooting a few boats of illegal immigrants out of the waters just might work wonders in deterring more from coming.

But stopping funding and encouraging our enemies is something I *do* consider effective. Just stop giving in to emotional and religious blackmail, please...

If we can't even get our governments to take that obvious step, what are the chances they'll use millitary options when needed?

Zenster said...

Henrik R Clausen: Indeed it was. And massive destruction of cultural heritage, too.

I suggest that you may wish to consider recalibrating your concept of war. Dresden was not "murder" in any sense of the word. I can go get some dictionary cites if you require them.

If we can't even get our governments to take that obvious step, what are the chances they'll use millitary options when needed?

Actually, it is precisely our governments' inability to "take that obvious step" which will lead to wholesale military action. By enabling the Palestinians, it only increases the chances that some fanatical Hezbollah loons will help Iran smuggle a nuclear device into Israel and thereby unleash the Samson option.

Likewise, inaction by America against Iran may well lead to a container bomb being detonated in New York. Even a democratic party president would have to retaliate in kind, if only to avoid a military mutiny within the ranks of America's armed forces.

All of the ineffective modi operandi being implemented by Western governments are leading directly towards the Muslim holocaust that I continue to predict.