Thursday, September 13, 2007

Hooray! The Americans Got Spanked!

Update: Kepiblanc adds this, concerning the value of contacting the Danish embassy:

Complaining to the Danish Embassy ins meaningless. The Danish Government and its Secretary of State have no say whatsoever over the DR-TV. In fact I’m pretty sure they detest it just as much as every other sane person over here.

Instead, please write to:

Chairman of the Board
Mr. Torben Dalby Larsen
DR Byen
Emil Holms Kanal 20
DK 0999 Copenhagen C
Denmark
Phone: 3520 3040
Fax: 3520 2644
Email: direktion@dr.dk

Two additional things:

1. I believe the country code prefix for those Danish phone numbers is 45.
2. If you can, write in dansk. It can’t hurt.



From the Danish blog Skattetryk, here’s a video of a Danish public TV news report, in which one of the announcers tells of his reaction to the 9-11 attacks on the United States:



If your Danish is a little rusty, here’s Skattetryk’s English-language explanation:

Jens Blauenfeldt from the Danish public service TV (Danmarks Radio) says what he was thinking when he heard about the 9-11 attacks:

“Hey it’s the Americans; now they are getting spanked. That serves them right… Finally someone is striking back.”

This statement has so far not had any consequences for Jens Blauenfeldt. He is still employed and on the air at the government controlled taxpayer financed Danish TV station Danmarks Radio.

Dear friends from the US: This is what you get when the media is controlled by the state. Daily anti-American brainwash.

My own two cents’ worth:
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This program was broadcast on an official Danish government outlet. If you’re an American, and you’re offended by it, here’s some useful information:

Royal Danish Embassy
3200 Whitehaven Street, NW, Washington DC 20008
Telephone: (202) 234-4300
Fax: (202) 328-1470
E-mail: wasamb@wasamb.um.dk
URL: http://www.denmarkemb.org/

Tell ’em Gates of Vienna sent you.


Hat tip: Steen.

40 comments:

gun-totin-wacko said...

Yeah. Like they'd care what the Americans think. Remember: "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."

KGS said...

I believe that I can state unequivocally that, Finland ranks as the worst of the Nordic states in state brain washing. Unlike the other states in the EU, especially in Scandinavia, we have no meaningful opposition to the academically inspired, media disseminated and politically enforced bullcrap, that's called political correctness, but in reality, it's socialist civil restructuring.

We are all forced to pay our yearly TV "permits" at 250 Euros a pop for two state channels, 1 & 2 and then get served a diet of the most politicized anti-USA, anti-Israel bullshit on a regular basis (though we do have 8 other channels, but they rely on commercials, we don't pay for them). If you think that the US MSM is biased......you haven't seen anything yet. Finland is a virtual laboratory for the systematic "re-education" of the public mind to conform to socialistic bullshit, regardless of the political spectrum.

For an example, no Finnish conservative would ever dare to publicly announce that he intends to dismantle the Finnish welfare state, or get rid of the egalitarian system of traffic control, which allows you to be ticketed by "how much you earn". Nor would there be any call to do away with policy of forced breath tests, in which your pulled over by the police, not being suspected for doing anything wrong, but on the chance that "you might be doing something wrong". Great huh?

kepiblanc said...

Complaining to the Danish Embassy ins meaningless. The Danish Government and its Sec.State has no say whatsoever over the DR-TV. In fact I'm pretty sure they detest it just as much as every other sane person over here.
Instead, please write to:

Chairman of the Board
Mr. Torben Dalby Larsen
DR Byen
Emil Holms Kanal 20
DK 0999 Copenhagen C
Denmark
Phone: 3520 3040
Fax: 3520 2644
Email: direktion@dr.dk

carpenter said...

[rather off-topic:]
To me, the Danish language in conversations is completely inunderstandable and equivalent to Arabic, although I understand it almost perfectly when reading.
With all the abbreviations and incorrect pronounciations (vis-a-vis spelling), I barely understand how Danes themselves can understand it.
It is not fair; most Danes understand Swedish, but most Swedes don't understand Danish!
A Danish accent reform, perhaps? =)

Mikkel Høgh said...

I'm so tired of D(D)R. They have been skewing the political debate and climate for years. I really hope that our next cabinet will have big enough balls to finally neuter this relic of ages past.

@carpenter: Kom så, sig efter mig: "Hundrede pund hunpuddelhundeuld" (yes, that is a real word).

Lauri Olavi said...

I'm from Finland too... I remember the enthusiastic spirit that greeted the 9/11 attacks among my "progressive" friends most vividly. There was a genuine feeling of jubilation: "They finally got what they deserve!" I think this is representative of the general sentiment in Europe. We believe that US is the Great Satan, and the all the problems facing the world will be solved when US is destroyed.

Paul said...

I agree with gtw, however I have called both of my Senator's office's from here in Sweden and have followed up with email letters.

My Senators receive my calls & letters, and respond to me in writing.

I gave each of them the link to the YouTube video and a English translation of the offending remark. Baron's English translation of the Danish reporter is fair.

I would say call your senators and follow up with an email. I asked each of them to demand a public apology from Denmark.

Go to http://www.senate.gov/ and in the upper right corner enter your state to get your senators contact info.

spackle said...

All I can say is WOW. If we are so bad I wonder where Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union rank with "progressives". That moniker has always made me laugh. Progress towards what? Slavery? What a bright future. Cant wait.

Lucille said...

//or get rid of the egalitarian system of traffic control, which allows you to be ticketed by "how much you earn".//

Don't you think that makes sense, if the point of fining is a deterrent? A ticket of $100 may mean a lot to someone living on $10,000 a year, but it'll make little difference to someone on a six or seven figure salary.

gun-totin-wacko said...

Spackle,

Read a few history books, and you'll see where the Soviets ranked. See for instance, the NYT writer who covered up the Stalin purges in order to make the USSR look more like a "worker's paradise".

Even now, if you see pictures from "progressive" get-togethers, you'll see people carrying huge signs with pictures of Stalin, Castro and Kim Jong Il on them.

Nazi Germany, not so much. Because everyone "knows" that National Socialism means Conservative.

I've commented in the past (as have others) that it's significant who Bush is compared to. You'll always see Bush=Hitler, but never Stalin or Mao. Why? Because they're Communist icons, and a good leftist would never insult them by comparing them to a genocidal dicator like Bush.

Conservative Swede said...

These kind of comments are generated by the Christian ethics of inversion of values, where strong is evil. It's a disgrace.

Mikael said...

here is a a nice video-comment on the brain dead remarks.

The closing screens says: "DR is not leftist or anti-American."

"So says DR's spin doctors Jacob Mollerup, viewers ombudsman former member of the Danish Communist Party and Lars Grarup, media director former leftist activist and autonom"

"The CEO probably agrees". (He's flashing a t-shirt supporting the "youth house" at this years Roskilde festival.

Public Service my foot!

Jun said...

You're welcome for the MARSHALL PLAN, Jens!

A Marshall Plan agreement between Denmark and the United States was signed on June 29, 1948, by Danish Foreign Minister Gustav Rasmussen and my predecessor Ambassador Josiah Marvel, Jr. As a result, Denmark benefited from economic assistance worth $278 million.
http://denmark.usembassy.gov/06-05-07.html

Idiot.

Henrik said...

The D(D)R coverage of the Brussels demo was horrible, too. Basically, they tried to smear it as a tiny gathering of right-wing extremists, skipping completely the matters of principle or the police violence. Even the usually very PC daily Politiken did a lot better.

We're going ahead helping them to get their journalism right. The left wing was in the street yesterday, with a mixed mesagge about the media dinosaur. On one hand, they were flying the slogan "Let DR live". On the other hand, they were serving 'burial beer' for it. Had I knewn, I'd have stopped for one and congratulated.

Conservative Swede said...

The Swedish media was even more effective. They didn't mention the demo at all, anywhere.

Robohobo said...

When the citizens of Finland, Denmark and Sweden are being led to the extermination camps and the re-education camps or the beheading ground, do not ask America to come to your aid again. Too much of this and we will not.

Enough is enough.

Conservative Swede said...

Robohobo,

This comment is not related to the article: But we would be really happy if you stayed away, actually. Could remove your 100,000 troops here in Europe already? All this talking is doing no good.

Enough is enough.

Robohobo said...

Be glad to. Many Americans want to quit Europe completely.

I guess Conservative in Europe means Socialist or Communist or Fascist or some such. I thought we had relegated those failed philosophies to the dustbins of history. I really am not sure. But from where I stand you are very willing to believe that America is the enemy. Good for you.

I am gone.

Conservative Swede said...

Be glad to.

You do not seem glad at all. In fact you have a very strange way of agreeing, suddenly accusing me of seeing your country as the enemy. Aren't we WAY too touchy here? I merely asked in a straight-forward way if you could please remove your troops from our soil, especially since you also want so much "to quit Europe completely".

So many double messages...

Furthermore, your comment "I guess Conservative in Europe means Socialist or Communist or Fascist or some such" suggests that you have a deep-rooted antipathy towards Europe that has nothing to do with comments, such as the one by Jens Blauenfeldt.

Remove the American troops from Europe. They are a legacy of the Wilsonian world order, and the enabler of the European Union.

Patrick_A_NonnyMouse said...

Conservative Swede, when I looked up "number of US troops in Europe" the answer came back as 62,000. You're guesstimate of 100,000 is about 50% too high.

Or else we've made a spectacular drawdown in the last week...

Robohobo said...

C-Swede - you said:

"But we would be really happy if you stayed away, actually."

Hmm, aren't you the one being a bit touchy? I said we (the US) should quit Europe BECAUSE of the type of comments made about 9/11. Really, most of us get it. We are not wanted in Europe is what I heard you say. Okay. Good by me. If you want us out does that not presuppose that you do see us as the enemy? When the US was drawing down the number of troops last century the German government agreed but wanted us to pay them the money we would spend there anyway. I remember it clearly as I had just rotated back to home from Theater Europe. They wanted our grubby money but did not want our grubby presence. Sorry, you cannot have it both ways.

The record of your governments re democracy is dismal when left to your own devices.

Either we are allies or not. If not that is acceptable also.

Conservative Swede said...

Robohobo,

Since you are such a great ally with Germany, I expect that you would warmly welcome 50,000-100,000 German troops in America. If you have a problem with that, I guess (according to your own logic) that we should conclude that you are an enemy of Germany.

I'm sure the Americans would highly appreciate the presence of German troops in their country, as a token of the great alliance and warm friendship between the two countries. I'm pretty sure the reaction of the average American would be "Finally! We have been waiting for this for so long."

Robohobo said...

C-Swede -

Are you simple? That is not what I said. I said that you cannot have it both ways. Germany, most of Europe and NATO wanted us there. Remember? Remember the USSR? Our ally until they were not. What I suppose from what I am hearing is that Europe is a former ally.

Farking typical.

atheling2 said...

There's conservative (and that's a little c) Swede, being anti American again, and denying it all the time.

I think America is like Moby Dick, to conservative Swede, if we can regard him metaphorically as Socialist Europe. His obsession to kill the indifferent great whale results in the desruction of his own ship, and his world. And he is blind to that fact.

The greatest irony of this is that the only survival of the shipwreck is someone called Ishmael...

atheling2 said...

or rather, survivor.

Conservative Swede said...

Robohobo said:
"Germany, most of Europe and NATO wanted us there."

If you follow the articles of this site you will get some idea of how well these Eurocrats represent the people of Europe. I have no idea why you pay any attention to their haggling, or expect me to defend it.

Anyway, you completely avoided my question to you. Now answer it: Would you welcome 50,000-100,000 German troops in America?

Conservative Swede said...

It's also really strange the description of how the American troops cannot leave Europe, because the Germans told them to stay. Doesn't the US have a will of their own?

Baron Bodissey said...

Conservative Swede, I agree with you completely. Two things are at work here:

1. European nations are behaving like spoiled teenagers towards America. Daddy buys them a nice car and gives them a credit card, and they whine about things. Time for them to grow up.

2. The USA behaves like a parent that won’t let the kid go. The kid is 30 years old and still living at home and we treat him like he’s twelve.

But I wish it were only as simple as that. There’s a massive amount of corruption involved in the American military presence in Europe. The Germans made it clear enough from their end what they get out of the deal, namely plenty of mazooma.

But the Americans get something, too. An inflated military budget for the Pentagon brass, pretty hardware to play with, sinecures for the officers, plum assignments in pleasant European locales, all those German brothels…

Both sides of this deal stink to high heaven. We have a monkey on our backs, and so do they. It’s time to for both Europe and the USA to go cold turkey on this habit.

Conservative Swede said...

Baron said:
"1. European nations are behaving like spoiled teenagers towards America. Daddy buys them a nice car and gives them a credit card, and they whine about things. Time for them to grow up.

2. The USA behaves like a parent that won’t let the kid go. The kid is 30 years old and still living at home and we treat him like he’s twelve."


Exactly!!!

I was going to bring up the same analogy, but then I thought that it would be lost on the people I was currently exchanging comments with. Hopefully they get it when you say it. To them I'm just this very bad "anti-American".

So how can you make the spoiled kid start taking responsibility? Well, stop being the soccer mom! If your child is 35 years old and still living at home, then it's time to just simply kick him out of the house. This man won't develop any strategies for independent living, unless he's first left out in the cold.

The same with European countries and their military defense. They won't develop this as long as they feel the cuddly presence of the Wilsonian world order, being protected by daddy America. The European countries desperately need to feel how they are left out in the cold. They desperately need to start taking responsibility.

We cannot rely on American troops to deal with the situation that we have ahead of us, especially since the odds are fifty-fifty that an American government will take the side of the Muslims, as they did for example in Yugoslavia.

All these double messages also fit your daddy/kid analogy. Quite as the typical parent, Americans send a lot of double messages to Europeans. On one hand they show that they have no intention to leave. (There are the reasons you mentioned, but also American pride of being in the role of the parent.) On the other hand we are constantly told how America is not going to come for our aid again. But it's like with the parent who threaten to kick his child out of the house. If the kid is cool about it and actually start planning to move, the parent gets upset.

All while the Europeans play the manipulative game of the spoiled kid, all while calling the parent an asshole behind his back. And there I managed to reconnect us to the actual thread we are writing in, and the amazingly disgraceful comment by Jens Blauenfeldt. The reaction of America to this--hadn't it been the soccer mom she is--should have been to immediately withdraw it's troops. I cannot see how arguments about "but the Germans wanted us to pay if we leave" apply at all in this situation. With a nation that is not a soccer mom, this alone would have caused a huge diplomatic crisis.

Thank you Baron for bringing up this analogy. Hopefully, a lot more people will understand now. Or else, you have just put yourself in as much trouble as I often do :-)

Conservative Swede said...

I wrote "soccer mom" hoping that it would be a good English equivalent of kycklingmamma (chicken mom).

Paul said...

This tread has taken a turn so I figure WTF.

Here in Sweden we have what is called “Free TV”, similar to PBS in America. Instead of call-a-thons to fund “Free TV” we are all forced to pay a TV license. Few people are actually busted for not paying but politicians have been nailed in “Free TV” or minor “Nanny Gate” scandals. On Swedish TV we have some political shows. Some of them are pretty cool. I like that high level ministers often come on the political shows and discuss issues on small panels, often with the common Swedish individual. The programs are laid back and you really do get to hear all sides of various issues.

There is a show called “Debate” here in Sweden that I regularly watch. Back in Spring(I believe or very late winter) there was segment that discussed American and it's foreign policies. On the Swedish side of reason there was a gentleman in his late 50's and young man in University. After the young man went into a triad praising America the older gentleman stated something to the effect, like it or not, America's military in Europe has brought prosperity to Sweden, Scandinavia and Europe as a whole. America's military presence in Europe has allowed the governments of Europe to concentrate on economic growth. Finally he said that America's military might during the cold war and all the way to the present day has given the people of Europe peace of mind. Everybody, on both sides of the Swedish spectrum agreed. America's military strength and presence in Europe has been good for Sweden and Europe.

There is always the talk and the mudslinging but when push comes to shove, reason does exist. Yes, during the NATO exercises this summer we had a small group of wacko's in the harbor in Gothenburg protesting the military. We even had two attempts by two pairs of Swede's pathetically rowing supermarket rubber rafts about 60 yards into the water with the intention of meeting the naval ships. Yes the left wing biased media(just like in America), inflated anti-American sentiment and published article after article and televised the same crap that we see back home in America.

When you listen to the reasonable Swede, or even listen to the politicians in Stockholm on both sides of the political Spectrum(Sweden has no Right Wing with few exceptions) all are reasonable about America's value.

I laugh here in Sweden all the time, a short while back there were all these media reports debating Sweden's decision to increase it's military presence in Afghanistan. The various merits were discussed finally if you looked hard enough you found that the discussion was all about sending another 12 or 20 men increasing the Swedish military might in Afghanistan to a staggering 130 men. With the historic fires in Greece the media here in Sweden reported how the government was sending forces to aide in the firefighting effort. Again when you wade through the pompous news reports and get down to the facts. Sweden who on average has less then 1/10th of the forest fires by acerage then Greece, sent TWO individuals, who they called “EXPERTS”, to act as advisors, and a helicopter on the last days of the fires. I do not even think they arrived until after things were under control in Greece. Sweden has 9 million people, all of whom are “EXPERTS”, “ADVISORS” and Policy Makers. It is understandable that there is a bit of foul language when a country like America strolls up with 10s or 100s of thousands of men, or sails in with an unparalleled navy or air force.

Europe was all to happy to have AMERICA patrolling the no fly zone in Iraq and patrolling the gulf waters with it's navy, and most of all pissing the ARAB world off by having it's soldiers based in Saudi Arabia and the middle east as the UN OIL FOR FOOD rip off went on. After all it was America that was the the focus of middle east resentment, not the governments of Europe. America will never do a Blue Hat Peace Keeping operation where terrorists set up their missile launchers along side of it's own troops. America does not go into a war zone to supervise mass murder or to observe a war. America takes action.

Maybe to Europeans and the Democrats in America, Iraq isn't the same kind of success as all the Blue Hat operations throughout Africa and the rest of the world. Then again the Iraq war has only been going on for a fraction of the time that all of the other UN operations have been chugging along. Oh yeah, for the last few weeks the debate, discussion, fan fare and more debate has been that Sweden is going to send forces to Somalia. There is no news yet when either of the guys are shipping out...

Europeans do not think or take action like Americans.

Jack said...

Conservative Swede,

If the United States removed it's military presence from Europe, within 30 years a major war would break out in Europe. Look at your history, prior to the arrival of Pax Americana, European wars were a nearly constant event. Europeans were unable to deal with a war in their own backyard when Milosevic was in power.

Conservative Swede said...

Jack,

Why would this be a problem? Vital and strong European nationalism is bound to lead to wars between European countries at some point. This is how we have survived for several millenia. It's Pax Americana--with everything that it leads to, such as the European Union--that is the recipe for suicide. It's the Wilsonian world order that is killing us now. It's Wilson's vision of an organized peace--which we lazily, irresponsibly and thoroughly accepted--that is shaping us into sissies, and leading us into salaam.

Europeans were unable to deal with a war in their own backyard when Milosevic was in power.

The conclusion of Jack here is that America was the one able to "deal" with Yugoslavia. Well, look at the result. Ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Kosovo. And most of the churches have been burned and looted by Muslim fanatics; or turned into discotheques. All enabled by America. Very "able"!

This is exactly why we decline your disservices. You are far too likely to be bulldozing Christianity and European culture where you appear. Instead it is Milosevic that symbolizes European ability better than anyone else that has entered the stage so far. (This is not a praise of Milosevic, but simply a dry assertion) This in spite of everything we could criticize him for. But this is exactly the thing that you brutally crushed. The lesson from this is that America is likely to crush European ability wherever it appears. So we rather have our intra-cultural wars, than your disservices in killing our continent.

History is not static. It used to be Americans who understood better that freedom was more important than peace. But today more Europeans have awakened to the fact that freedom trumps peace, especially when the peace means Pax Americana married with Islamic salaam. All while too many Americans preach the wonders of peace before freedom. Peace-at-any-price is a recipe for cultural suicide.

Americans who love their cultural heritage should be advocating withdrawal of American troops from Europe.

I make the distinction between the American ruling elite and its people, quite as we all make it between the people of Iran and the ruling elite of Iran (no other comparisons). The importance of this distinction was clarified during the Danish Motoon affair. When judging from the backstabbing of Denmark by the ruling elite, and its insensitivity to the importance of free speech, America was the country that performed worst of all in this affair. But at the same time, judging by the reactions and support of Denmark by the "little men"--in buying Danish products and displaying Danish flags at blogs-- America was the country that performed best in this affair.

I'm always listing America, Sweden and France as the three model countries of the West. With this I mean that the national identity is based on ideology instead of tradition. Each having a history of its own forming it into a such. This makes these countries have special problems, in these times of change, and make more of its people fully identifying with Utopian dreams of their ruling elites. For these countries the impending change of paradigm will mean a much harder fall than for other countries. Sweden and France will experience this fall/transformation earlier than America. But could you please leave us alone in dealing with it, and not suffocate us with your Pax Americana?

America will fall later but the hardest. That's only logical, since it's identity is not invested only in a national dream, but in a dream of a world order. But while the creed of the American ruling elite (unfortunately shared by most of its citizens, being a model country) is bound to meet the end of the road during this century, there is this strong vitality under the surface; such as in the stubborn individual with his own gun. America is not only the country of universalist egalitarian Utopia, it's also the country of the settlers. And in the longer run it's the good ol' settler mentality that will win. And this is the side of America that the awakened Europeans must ally with.

Anyway, this illustrates my worries. America will transform later than Europe. How much damage to Europe will the untransformed America have the time to do before that? In the big picture, we are always friends and allies based on our shared heritage. But in these difficult times there are good reasons for a European to worry about the possible actions of the American government when things starts getting tough over here.

Robohobo said...

C-Swede-

Actually you and I agree more than you might suspect. I like the simile of the spoiled child used.

Robohobo said...

"Americans who love their cultural heritage should be advocating withdrawal of American troops from Europe."

I am and I do.

"But could you please leave us alone in dealing with it, and not suffocate us with your Pax Americana?"

Glad to but you may find that when you do need us again we will be unwilling to spend blood and treasure to help. We can only take so much of the typical European indecisiveness.

"...there is this strong vitality under the surface; such as in the stubborn individual with his own gun(s). America is not only the country of universalist egalitarian Utopia, it's also the country of the settlers."

Guns in my case. 3rd gen Irish refugee. Oh, the Brits starved my folks out.

"But in these difficult times there are good reasons for a European to worry about the possible actions of the American government when things starts getting tough over here."

Why don't you come help fight them before they get there? Hmm? You are right, we will be the last to fall because of who we are we will keep fighting until we are dead. Then it will be too late for anyone and you may as well get used to praying 5 times a day, if you are still alive.

Geraldo said...

To Robohobo

For the mess Clinton made in Balkans you can go right now.
Usa were Europe's trusted friend.
It is not trusted anymore and many wonder if it is still a friend.
A country that support turky becoming an EU member cannot be a friend of Europe.

Conservative Swede said...

Robohobo:
"Glad to but you may find that when you do need us again we will be unwilling to spend blood and treasure to help."

Excellent! Freedom or death!

"You are right, we will be the last to fall because of who we are we will keep fighting until we are dead"

You are greatly underestimating the trouble your country is in. America will fall later simply by pure luck, since your neighbour country is Mexico and not Turkey and Maroccco.

It's easy to be lulled into the false impression that America embodies strength, when applying an a-historical perspective only comparing with the spoiled kid of Europe under Pax Americana. Compare America to the British or the Roman empire and you will see clearly how utterly weak it is. Remember the pictures of the evacuation of Saigon with helicopter from the roof of the U.S. embassy in 1975? Is this your image of strength? Sure America holds the most impressive military force in the history of mankind, but it lacks the willpower. As I always say, it does not help if you have the biggest dick if you are impotent.

We can follow today how Condi and George "Dubai" Bush install Hamas in power in PA while feeding them with loads of money. The same pattern in Egypt, where they worked hard to empower the Muslim Brotherhood, while sending heaps of money. Signs of strength? America seem to have a problem of winning important wars? (No, I'm not talking about Granada). Truman even took MacArthur to task for trying to win the war in Korea. The idea of limited war is so internalized in America that Truman actually wanted a draw.

Oh, but what about Europe? someone will say. Yes, Europe is worse off, it's part of the package in the current world order. The spoiled kid, remember? The proper comparison is back in history with previous hegemonic powers. The effectiveness of Pax Americana must be compared with the effectiveness of Pax Britannia and Pax Romana. Comparing present time America with present time Europe, would be like comparing Britain of the 19th century with India of that time. I.e. completely dishonest and nonsensical.

Europe will have to transform and strike back, there's no other choice. We have to cleanse our countries of Muslims. America will react much later. At that point southern America will already be transformed into Latin America. California is not far away even today, non-Hispanic whites are merely 43%. The fact that Mexicans are more benign than Muslims will be an impediment here. Americans won't find the motivation to drive them out. The south will be lost forever. In Europe we do not have such a choice. It's driving out the Muslims or die.

"Then it will be too late for anyone and you may as well get used to praying 5 times a day, if you are still alive."

It that would be the scenario, I'm not planning on staying, but I would go to Latin America. Maybe Houston.

Conservative Swede said...

Geraldo:
"It is not trusted anymore and many wonder if it is still a friend.
A country that support turky becoming an EU member cannot be a friend of Europe."


Of course America is a friend! But maybe we should think of her as a friend on drugs. We need to get our friend off the drugs before we can trust her again.

That does not apply, however, to the ruling elites in Europe, they need to be tarred and feathered.

Jaguar b. p. said...

The U.S. did have a presence in the Middle East prior to 2001, Scheuer is right about blowback.

There is a link between these American actions overseas, and counterattacks against American interests. This is not in dispute,
the only matter of disagreement is whether you believe these policies are the right thing to do (and worth the price), or the wrong thing to do (and warrant retaliation).

Apparently this Danish guy agrees with U.S. policies, because he regrets his initial justification of 9/11. So he agrees with YOU.

It is therefore silly to attack this poor dude for his mild and moderate comments,
when there are many people who absolutely approve of 9/11, e.g. myself.

Hello said...

It's idiots like the owner of this blog who are really the cause of wars. They try and censor and destroy what they don't understand or agree with (even when they don't know what is going on) - what all the rabble rouser's are handily overlooking is that he started his sentence by saying "And I'm ashamed to admit it, but my first thought was..." - and he probably wasn't alone, millions have seen how the US always interferes and then play the innocent prom girl when someone tries to strike back. So when the first thing someone sees is a bombed building they may very well have thought that, the next thought however when they learn whats really happening and that many people are died they start feeling sorry for them. Including the TV guy.

By all means write, Denmark is still a free country and freedom of speech doesn't mean you have a right to suppress others (like they tend to do in the USA) - ie, you write them a note and it ends in the trash. He shouldn't be fired, it isn't the neurotic states of America, its still the home of the free. Despite the efforts of fanatical Americans and religious crackpots.