At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe.We are in a new phase of a very old war.
LARWYN writes:THE DEMOCRATS LIED US INTO WAR WITH IRAQ The reality is: THE DEMOCRATS LIED US INTO WAR WITH IRAQ"Follow the money!" Think U.S. appropriations to both the Defense Department andall the Intelligence Agencies. Consider how the Democrats hateto give either of these entities money and how they must provetheir reasons for existence over and over and over to those thatwould prefer to pour $$$ into more social "dependency" programs.Timeline it to Clinton's big problems with Lewinsky but also withcampaign contributions in 1996. Clinton who ignored the firstWTC bombing and Reno and Gorlick making sure that the infothat was being used in prosecuting could not be shared. Butthen he needed a diversion and perhaps all the Republicansthat were screaming about "wagging the dog" were onto factthat Clinton and his minions including Tenet were rather hypingthe intelligence.Holbrooke at the UN almost became Kerry's Sec of State. Nowdoes it not strike any of you as strange that while the French,German, Russian and so on Intelligence Services were passinginformation proving how dangerous Saddam is, their diplomatswere leaning towards lifting the sanctions. This set up Holbrooke/Clinton to take strong stance defendingAmerica. This set up France, Germany and Russia as Saddam's bosombuddies. So because the Americans are being so unreasonablewe'll work with you on the side. The beauty for the OFF supplierswas that they as the system was so corrupt, they could shipexpired medicines, contaminated foodstuffs and who would careor complain. There could charge non competitive prices. Profitsrake-offs and kickbacks went into individuals' pockets vs normal above the board trade where Corporations make theprofits. You might say that the French, Germans and Russians wantedthe sanctions lifted to develop the Iraqi oil fields. Well, check thetimeline of oil prices during this period and them consider thatRussia needed lots of capital to develop their own oil reserves.Why would they be any hurry to help Iraq - so much closer toEurope and bringing all the estimated Iraqi oil to market wouldjust suppress the value of Russia's oil reserves?Shame that LeCarre seems to be in early dementia, could reallyuse Smiley to show us all the double games.Tenet knew exactly how Clinton felt about the CIA - his treatmentof Woosley was well documented. Tenet needed to prove hisvalue to Clinton.The DOD and the patrolling of Iraq's no fly zones gave the DODaccess to more funds, gave excellent real training to our pilots,provided needs that could be filled by Defense Dept contractorsand DOD R&D. Think all improvements in weapons and communications since the 1991 Gulf War and all the contributionsmade by the patrolling of the No Fly Zones.All was fine and everyone involved would have continued to playthe game but SCOTUS in 2000 interfered a bit and then "horrors"911 and hell broke loose with the NEO CON COWBOY in charge.Richard Clarke pretends great surprise that GW could even askhim to look into possibility of Saddam/911 connection. Rockefellerruns off to the ME including a stop in Syria in Jan of 2002 towarn that Bush means it -- hide everything -- including any OFFbiz trackbacks?.This needs more talent than I possess to write up a footnotedanalysis with timeline. I pray some of you will give thisserious thought.THE DEMOCRATS AND THEIR GREEDY UN AND EU BUDDIESLIED US INTO IRAQ! Below is the post that started the thoughts.Please tell me what you think.Best Regards,Larwyn (N W Larkin, Pgh, Pa.)Click here: The American Thinker http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=3667Dems lied to get us into war!A funny thing happened on the way to democracy in Iraq. Democrats who voted against our entry into the first Gulf War, voted for the war resolution this time around. Why? They were certain that WMDs would be uncovered and President Bush would be hailed for making the world safer, removing a brutal dictator from power, and establishing a democracy in a vital part of the world. They couldn’t allow Bush to get all the credit! After all, they are the ones who made the case for war during the Clinton administration. In truth, they made the case dishonestly and only to remove Monicagate from the news! These doves at all costs turned into hawks in a magician’s trick of deflection and deception. Don’t look at Clinton’s foibles, look at this evil guy in Iraq!Phoenix morning talker, Bruce Jacobs (KFYI 960 AM), has started a campaign this week of “Dems lied to get us into war” and he is outraged. By quoting the Dems in their own words, it’s hard to argue that we were indeed “mislead into war.” Here are a few choice samples that Jacobs’ has compiled to lend credence to his thesis:“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998Bill Clinton, who now says invading Iraq was a mistake, had said this:“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998Jacobs’ complete list of Words of Mass Destruction is here.J. James Estrada 11 16 05
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