Reports from Tower Hamlets

Here are two reports from the EDL Demo today. First, from the East London Times:

[sourced at 1510 hrs BST]

Our picture shows about 300 EDL members being escorted from their rallying point in Kings Cross on the way to Tower Hamlets today. This picture was taken by Matthew Taylor who said that they were surrounded by police. ELL will keep you updated as we get information.

3.00pm: reports that the police are preventing the anti-EDL protesters from moving down towards Aldgate where the EDL are gathering.

3.00pm: Steve Parry reports: “A carnival atmosphere in Tower Hamlets”. He says: “Looks like the EDL will get no where near.”

2.00pm a large build up of police reported near Aldgate (reported by Mark Townsend of the Observer)

1.40pm Nick Lowles for Hope not Hate says that Kings Cross station has been closed by the RMT but we have no way of verifying this information. This has been repeated by Matthew Taylor of the Guardian.

1.30pm A tweet from Kings Cross says that the station has just been evacuated.

Mark Townsend (Home Affairs editor of the Observer), tweeting from Whitechapel, reports a large crowd of ‘Tower Hamlets’ lads gathering. With an additional 2000 supporters.

There have been numerous reports of EDL members meeting and drinking in Kings Cross pubs before getting on their way.

According to Nick Lowles of Hope Not Hate, there is also a large contingent drinking at Wetherspoons at Liverpool Street. Lit Withnail reports a massive police presence at Liverpool St. See picture

From The Socialist Worker:

Live-Blogging the EDL in Tower Hamlets

Live-blogging for the EDL demo in Tower Hamlets has concluded. Follow-up photos, videos, and articles will appear as separate posts.

1:23pm EDT:

The EDL at Kings Cross:


Hat tip: Nilk.


11:51am EDT:

martinuaf martin smith

#uafeastend police confirmed Tommy Robinson been arrested - only few hundred edl - thousands of us great day
https://twitter.com/#!/martinuaf/status/109998544370405376 I like this one from an hour ago because it states there were only a few hundred edl.

As a matter of interest, an EDL member on the scene put the crowd at around 3,000.

@jeronimo218 Jon Perryman

The community stoppped EDL and defied the police ban with a victory march. A victory for multiculturalism Theresa May #fail #uafeastend

In what way did “the community stop the EDL”? The EDL still turned up en masse, and then the UAF went against the police ban. Not good PR.

Another one of our peaceful lefty friends from a few hours back:

@ShellyAsquith Shelly Asquith

Just been told the EDL coach coming from Oxford had its tyres cut at a service station #uafeastend

[commentary by Nilk]


11:44am EDT:

@PennyRed Laurie Penny

by roblugg
Violent clashes between police and EDL on corner of minories street. EDL trying to break through to aldgate. Horses gearing up.

@james_haywood James Haywood

by roblugg
There is a group of women on bikes going after EDL, literally riding their bikes into them and screaming in their face. Bloody heroes!!

@policemonitor The Network for PM

400 anti-fash on whitechapel rd. some heading down Lehman st. EDL rally almost finished. No arrests reported yet #uafeastend #towerhamlets

JoshAJHall Josh Hall

Massive crowd surrounding police stop and searching an antifascist behind Aldgate East #EDL #uafeastend twitpic.com/6ffn0x

Hat tip: Nilk.


11:20am EDT:

Tommy Robinson, dressed as a rabbi, climbs on stage at the demo:


Hat tip: Kitman.


11:13am EDT:

Update from an EDL source: “Tommy Robinson was NOT arrested. The EDL got him away before the police could reach him.”

Photo from earlier:



11:04am EDT:

Police say English Defence League east London demo is ‘calm’.

Hope Not Hate:

It seems that Yaxley-Lennon might have evaded police arrest. Four police officers went to arrest him but he escaped. Either that or he broke free of the police. Will try to find out more.

Getting reports of 500 police heading down Minories, towards Tower Hill.

Hat tips: KGS, Kitman.


10:51am EDT:

Gates of Vienna News Feed 9/2/2011

President Obama decided not to impose the tighter clean air regulations that had been proposed by the EPA. After considering the financial hardships that the new rules would have imposed on businesses and localities, not to mention the increase in unemployment, Mr. Obama decided to keep the Bush administration’s clean air standards in force until after next year’s elections.

In other news, supporters of “Palestine” disrupted a concert by the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra several times last night with their loud protests. Because of the disturbances, the BBC felt it necessary to pull its live feed of the performance.

To see the headlines and the articles, open the full news post.

Thanks to AC, C. Cantoni, Caroline Glick, DB, Diana West, Gaia, Insubria, JP, Vlad Tepes, and all the other tipsters who sent these in.

Commenters are advised to leave their comments at this post (rather than with the news articles) so that they are more easily accessible.

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The Islamization of Moscow

In the last few years, Muslims in the West have become more and more bold with their public prayers, taking over our public spaces in a declaration of Islamic ownership.

The following scenes from Moscow are startling, showing the huge Muslim presence in the city. Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for uploading this video:

Turkish Teflon

It’s a well-known fact that our governments, the media, and the United Nations observe a double standard in their treatment of Israel over the Palestinian issue. It’s just business as usual; we’re used to it.

However, the following essay, posted yesterday at Vlad Tepes, points out the blatant absurdity of it all by comparing the treatment of Israel to the carte blanche handed to Turkey over the PKK:

Turkish Teflon
An article written by ‘J-Practical’ for Vladtepes blog

According to Reuters, Turkey’s armed forces said on Monday that some 145-160 Kurdish guerrillas were killed in Turkish air and artillery strikes in northern Iraq this month.

So why is Turkey bombing Kurds in Northern Iraq? After all, like the Turks, most Kurds are Sunni Muslims, fellow members of the Religion of Peace, and they’re neighbours of Turkey, living in a semi-autonomous region under limited self rule — so you’d think Turkey would make an effort to live in peace with them.

Actually, the peace is being broken by the Kurdish PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party), a terrorist organization recognized by Turkey, the United States and the European Union. Recently PKK assaults in Turkey have killed more than 40 Turkish security force personnel.

Turkey is simply defending itself from terrorists, which is why the Turkish air force sent warplanes to bomb Kurdish towns which the Turkish intelligence say contain PKK bases and arms depots. As it happens regularly in such bombings, seven civilians were killed a week ago, though the Turkish General Staff said more than 100 PKK militants were also wounded.

Now, let’s see if this makes sense to you, because I’m scratching my head:

Come on, Dave — Let’s Have a Chat

Regular readers, especially in Britain, will remember the words of Prime Minister David Cameron in the wake of the London riots. Several weeks ago Mr. Cameron “deprecated” the English Defence League, saying: “I have described some parts of our society as sick, and there is none sicker than the EDL.”

Tomorrow the EDL will stage a demonstration in Tower Hamlets, the most Islamized borough in the United Kingdom. In the run-up to that event, EDL leader Tommy Robinson has challenged David Cameron to engage him in open debate.

Here’s the challenge, as posted at the EDL website:

Tommy Robinson Challenges David Cameron to a Live Debate

The title says it all: we challenge the Prime Minister, David Cameron, to debate with Tommy Robinson of the English Defence League.

But the reason this debate is important has to do with the political climate in Britain today. It is no longer possible to discuss radical Islam without being unfairly demonised as some kind of extremist. That is wrong. And it can as true for Muslims as it is for non-Muslim critics of Islam.

Not every Muslim is a terrorist, just as not every critic of Islam is an ‘Islamophobe’.

It’s time to abandon these lazy and offensive assumptions, time to give up the stereotypes, and time to have an even-handed public debate.

Quite simply, it’s time to talk.

We look forward to Mr Cameron’s response, but in the meantime we thought it would be worth explaining things from the EDL perspective:

EDL supporters are well-used to facing hostility when asked to explain their views. But when we explain why we demonstrate against radical Islam, we tend to find that any initial reservations people may have had are overcome remarkably quickly.

We do not demonstrate against radical Islam because we are intolerant or ignorant, but because we believe in values that the followers of radical Islam make no secret of rejecting, and will often openly admit to working to undermine. Important values such as:

Turkey Expels Israeli Ambassador

This move is not entirely unexpected. After the UN report was leaked, Turkey began making noises about downgrading Israel’s diplomatic status in Ankara. Now it has happened.

It’s worth noting that there were predictions last spring that a war against Israel would be launched in September or October of this year. Is this the first sign of it?

Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for uploading this video:


Below is an article from AKI with more information on the same topic:

Turkey Expels Israeli Ambassador Over 2010 Raid

Ankara, 2 Sept. (AKI) - Turkey on Friday expelled the Israeli ambassador ahead of the release of a United Nations report that condemned a 2010 raid on a Turkish-led humanitarian aid flotilla that killed nine activists.

Details of the report were leaked to the New York Times on Thursday condemning the raid on the ship that sought to break a naval blockade of Gaza. But the UN said Israel was within its rights to impose the blockade.

Turkey also said it would suspend all military agreements between the countries.

Turkey has in vain demanded an apology from Israel for the deadly raid in May 2010.

Ankara and the Palestinian National Authority in June signed a pact that bolsters Turkey’s support for the establishment of a Palestinian state and increases investment in water resources and agriculture. and increase cooperation in culture, education, health and science.

Obama’s Family Tree

President Obama’s uncle was recently arrested on a drunk driving charge. There was a brief mention about the incident in the news. Not much was made of the fact that he is in the country illegally, and has had a Social Security number for two decades — best not to talk about that. Nor do we hear much about Obama’s auntie, who is also in the country illegally.

We don’t know much about Barack Hussein Obama’s extended family, because for some reason the media don’t focus on them. However, a closer look at Mr. Obama’s kin reveals a family just like any other American family.

Except maybe for the granny in Kenya living in a hut without electricity. And then there’s his polygamous pop.

And I almost forgot: there’s a communist. And another communist. And yet another communist…

The other day Ezra Levant took a look at the Obama family in his program on SUN TV. Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for uploading this video:

Gates of Vienna News Feed 9/1/2011

As reported previously, the Italian oil company ENI has reached an agreement with the Libyan rebels that will allow it to reopen its oil and natural gas operations in Libya. However, it hasn’t cornered the Libyan market: the latest reports from France indicate that French oil firms have been granted access to 35% of the Libyan oil market.

No wonder President Nicolas Sarkozy is smiling in those photos!

In other news, 70% of the parents who took advantage of the new school voucher program in Indiana have chosen to send their children to private schools, mostly Catholic institutions. Opponents of the program say this violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

To see the headlines and the articles, open the full news post.

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Commenters are advised to leave their comments at this post (rather than with the news articles) so that they are more easily accessible.

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Tommy Robinson Interviewed on Danish TV

This is an excellent account from Danish Television about the English Defence League, Tommy Robinson, and the upcoming EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets. It’s a pity the EDL can’t get coverage this balanced on any British-based network.

“Bad” Muslims: Keeping Count of Hasanat

Our Russian correspondent Russkiy sends the second installment in his series of essays on the Islamic mentality (part 1 is here ).


The “Bad” Muslims
by Russkiy

Shortly after the 9/11 events I became friends with one fellow at the university gym. I didn’t realize at first that he was a Muslim or an Arab. He was from Morocco, as I found out later.

He seemed very normal, always wore Hawaiian T-shirts, was a gym junkie and loved to go clubbing, although he never drank. He was always a sober driver for those of us who were drinking.

Other than his strange behaviour in night clubs (he never drank but seemed the least in control of his behaviour with the opposite sex — he used to whistle and say inappropriate things to women; he was embarrassing for those of us who were drunk) he seemed very normal and friendly until one day when we started discussing some political issues. The conversation revolved around the 9/11 attacks, concerning which he expressed his views as follows: “Osama Bin Laden is a great, brave man, a good Muslim. If all Muslims were like him, the Islamic world wouldn’t be such a s***hole. I wish I was a better Muslim, and brave enough to sacrifice my life in the great Jihad.”

He also said a lot of other things but the above statement summarises his general attitude. From that day onwards I was very suspicious of people who referred to themselves as “bad” Muslims — they were people who generally had a non-observant or not fully observant (Islamic) lifestyle but still referred to themselves as Muslims and defended Islam.

I have recently found out how they could justify their behaviour. Muslims on the day of resurrection are judged according to their good Islamic deeds (hasana) or bad (non-Islamic) deeds. Some Muslims try to keep track of their bad and good deeds. So if they decide to go drinking one night for example, they should go and pray a bit more, read the Quran, or kill lizards (one of the ways to score additional points. If you kill a lizard with one hit you get 100 hasanat; with two hits you get 50, and so on).

Sept 1st, 1939: “We Must Love One Another or Die”

Is anyone commemorating today’s infamous memory? Or has September 1st 1939 been obliterated by September 11th 2001? One despot’s murderous march replaced by another’s killing flights.

That terrible moment when Poland was invaded brought with it a bursting onto the world’s consciousness of a word which has become a permanent part of our lexicon. Though it may be that many who use it now have no knowledge of its origins, today is the anniversary of the birth of the blitzkrieg.

This is dedicated to those ever fewer who are still alive, who remember where they were, what they were doing seventy-two years ago today…those of you who never thought you’d be here now, surrounded by a seemingly permanent state of global wars.

For the rest of us, it is vital to remember via the poets, the writers, and the historians whose energies were devoted to preserving for us the details of long-disappeared ‘present’ moments.

Auden’s truth of September 1 1939 remains true, though the world has become even more “a culture driven mad”...and his basic understanding of what we need has not changed at all, though its realization seems as distant as the stars:

Lost in a haunted wood,
Children afraid of the night
Who have never been happy or good.
[...]
we must love one another or die...

If you find poetry “difficult” or not to your liking, the wiki for this one may prove useful.

Our new killing word, “terrorism”, may not be permitted to remain in the realm of public discourse. And that erasure may be the worst blow of all...


SEPTEMBER 1, 1939

by W.H. Auden

I sit in one of the dives
On Fifty-second Street
Uncertain and afraid
As the clever hopes expire
Of a low dishonest decade:
Waves of anger and fear
Circulate over the bright
And darkened lands of the earth,
Obsessing our private lives;
The unmentionable odour of death
Offends the September night.

Accurate scholarship can
Unearth the whole offence
From Luther until now
That has driven a culture mad,
Find what occurred at Linz,
What huge imago made
A psychopathic god:
I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

Exiled Thucydides knew
All that a speech can say
About Democracy,
And what dictators do,
The elderly rubbish they talk
To an apathetic grave;
Analysed all in his book,
The enlightenment driven away,
The habit-forming pain,
Mismanagement and grief:
We must suffer them all again.

Into this neutral air
Where blind skyscrapers use
Their full height to proclaim
The strength of Collective Man,
Each language pours its vain
Competitive excuse:
But who can live for long
In an euphoric dream;
Out of the mirror they stare,
Imperialism’s face
And the international wrong.

Faces along the bar
Cling to their average day:
The lights must never go out,
The music must always play,
All the conventions conspire
To make this fort assume
The furniture of home;
Lest we should see where we are,
Lost in a haunted wood,
Children afraid of the night
Who have never been happy or good.

The windiest militant trash
Important Persons shout
Is not so crude as our wish:
What mad Nijinsky wrote
About Diaghilev
Is true of the normal heart;
For the error bred in the bone
Of each woman and each man
Craves what it cannot have,
Not universal love
But to be loved alone.

From the conservative dark
Into the ethical life
The dense commuters come,
Repeating their morning vow;
‘I will be true to the wife,
I’ll concentrate more on my work,’
And helpless governors wake
To resume their compulsory game:
Who can release them now,
Who can reach the dead,
Who can speak for the dumb?

All I have is a voice
To undo the folded lie,
The romantic lie in the brain
Of the sensual man-in-the-street
And the lie of Authority
Whose buildings grope the sky:
There is no such thing as the State
And no one exists alone;
Hunger allows no choice
To the citizen or the police;
We must love one another or die.

Defenseless under the night
Our world in stupor lies;
Yet, dotted everywhere,
Ironic points of light
Flash out wherever the Just
Exchange their messages:
May I, composed like them
Of Eros and of dust,
Beleaguered by the same
Negation and despair,
Show an affirming flame.

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Because his lines often lent themselves to being lifted out of their contexts for political ends, Auden, who was fiercely apolitical in his later years, would sometimes remove earlier poems if they were thus employed...

ESW: Europe is Changing, Part 2

As I reported last week, on August 25 our Austrian correspondent Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff was one of the podium speakers at a panel discussion organized under the auspices of Heinz-Christian Strache, the leader of the FPÖ (Austrian Freedom Party). The topic of discussion was “Europe is changing: Are there possibilities for a consensus with Islam(ism) or will there be a decline of our society and values?”

A video of Elisabeth’s concluding remarks is below, followed by a transcript. Many thanks to Kitman for subtitling and uploading this video:


Transcript:

I will keep my final statement short by giving you a short statement about the term “Islamophobia”, which was brought to our attention right at the end, and then I will give you three very short final statements
without any comments.

With regard to Islamophobia: The term was introduced with the Islamic Revolution in Iran at the end of the 1970s as a fighting word with respect to sharia. It says in the sharia that Islam, the prophet, and Allah may not be denigrated. I have condensed this, but all of this can be found in the “Reliance of the Traveller”, the manual for sharia law. If you come to my seminar, you will learn all of this.

It says very clearly in this book that anyone, whether Muslim or non-Muslim denigrates the name of Allah or his prophet, however one may interpret this, is an Islamophobe and deserves death.

What should really worry us here is that this term has been put on an equal level, both in the UN, in which the Islamic countries are the leading [voting] bloc, simply because they have the highest number of countries, and the EU and the European Council have followed suit, that Islamophobia is equal to racism.

This a very worrying situation, and I especially believe in this context that Austrian politicians, but not just the Austrian politicians, also European politicians, are joining in this [equating Islamophobia with racism], for whatever reason.

This means: the term Islamophobia must be repudiated right away. Even if we say rationally that Islamophobia, a phobia is an irrational fear of something, I cannot have an irrational fear of Islam because I am studying the teachings of Islam, and the I know what is going on. And from this “fear” I can do something.

I hope I wasn’t talking in circles too much.

In any case, Islamophobia is to be rejected from our side we should not even use the term, because then we are on the side of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. This about Islamophobia. If you come to my seminar, you will learn a lot more about Islamophobia, and will learn about its dangers.

Now to my final statement. I promised to read to you three sentences, with which I completely identify myself.

The first statement: My criticism concerns an ideology and not the people. This is very important. And because words are put in my mouth, I repeat: My criticism concerns an ideology And not any human being.

The second statement: Every form of criticism of Islam, patriotism, and national awareness is labeled across the board with the term right-wing populism, and one is confronted with terms like hatred, xenophobia and extremism. This is what I ask you to consider and think about.

And my final thoughts are very dear to my heart. The statement reads as follows: Is it “right-wing” to stand for women’s rights? Is it “right-wing” to criticize a religion, or any other religion? Is it “right-wing” to defend the right of the individual over that of the ideology?

I say to you: if that is the case, then yes I say to you, Yes, I hereby present right-wing political views.

Thank you for coming tonight.


For previous posts on the “hate speech” prosecution of Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, see Elisabeth’s Voice: The Archives.

The Terrorist Supporters of the Left

Our Norwegian correspondent The Observer offers the second part of his series of essays on the Left in Norway. In this installment, he examines the left-wing community in Norway and its sympathy for various terrorist organizations.

Part 1 is available here.


The terrorist supporters of the Left
by The Observer

This is the second essay in a three-part series in which I take a look at left-wing media bias in Norway, the Norwegian Left’s fraternizing with militant organizations abroad, and undemocratic elements within the Muslim community in Norway.

In the first instalment, ‘Left-wing media bias in Norway’, I looked at the Left’s stranglehold on the MSM in Norway, and how this stranglehold manifested itself in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Oslo on July 22, 2011. I also showed how the MSM tried to implicate parts of the conservative community in Norway for having emotionally contributed to these attacks.

In this essay I will take a critical look at the political Left in Norway and show that numerous individuals and organizations on the Left side of the political scale sympathize with terrorist organizations. I will also give examples of the Left’s eagerness to turn a blind eye to forces which engage in anti-democratic behaviour inside Norway.

The terrorist attacks in Oslo on July 22, 2011, were the biggest assault on Norwegian society since WW2. Needless to say, they had a huge impact on the national psyche. The left-wing community in Norway immediately demanded that conservative forces in Norway, and the Progress Party in particular, re-evaluate their political views on immigration and multi-culture, and distance themselves from what the Left labelled Muslim-hatred, once it was established that the perpetrator was a Norwegian non-Muslim ethnic male.

The Left claimed that these groups had paved the way for the atrocity. This massive broadside attack on the conservative community in Norway was wholeheartedly supported by the MSM, and it even had a distinct effect on political opinion polls that were carried out in the aftermath of the attacks. One of the consequences of this massive smear campaign was a significant drop in the support for the Progress Party which saw its support plummet to a mere 12 percent. At the same time the support for the Labour Party soared to well over 40 percent. This of course has political implications, as 2011 is an election year in Norway, and the political campaigning has started.

One thing that wasn’t debated at all in the MSM after the attacks was the widespread support within various political organizations on the Left, including the AUF (Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking, Workers’ Youth League), for organizations which engage in terrorist activities. One is tempted to use a cliché to describe this total media silence on this issue in the days following the attacks and say that it was almost deafening. The subject was however raised by the media in Israel and it was raised on various conservative news sites in America, and in my personal opinion it was highly legitimate.

I can understand why Israelis who have had to endure terrorist attacks from their Arab neighbours for decades and who have lost significant numbers of their compatriots in this terror were eager to point out that the Norwegian Left have gone a very long way in condoning the behaviour of militant Palestinian terrorist organizations. In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Maariv, on July 25, 2011, the Norwegian ambassador to Israel, Svein Sevje attempted to draw distinctions between the terrorist attack in Norway and the numerous terrorist attacks that have plagued Israel. In the interview Mr Sevje says that it is easier to understand that militant Palestinians resort to terror because of Israel’s ‘occupation’ of Palestinian land. Mr Sevje also claimed that peace can only be achieved if the Israelis engage in direct talks with the terrorist organization Hamas:

Norway’s ambassador to Israel drew distinctions between the Oslo and Utoya massacres and Palestinian terrorism.

Svein Sevje said in an Israeli newspaper interview Tuesday that while the Norwegian bomb and gun rampages that killed 76 people and Palestinian attacks should both be considered morally unacceptable, he wanted to “outline the similarity and the difference in the two cases.” Palestinians, the ambassador told Maariv, “are doing this because of a defined goal that is related to the Israeli occupation. There are elements of revenge against Israel and hatred of Israel. To this you can add the religious element to their actions.”

“In the case of the terror attack in Norway, the murderer had an ideology that says that Norway, particularly the Labor Party, is forgoing Norwegian culture,” Sevje said, referring to suspect Anders Breivik, a Christian native who is openly anti-Islam and anti-immigration.

“We Norwegians consider the occupation to be the cause of the terror against Israel,” he said. “Those who believe this will not change their mind because of the attack in Oslo.”

He added, “Can Israel and the Palestinians solve the problems without Hamas? I don’t think so.”

The views that the Norwegian ambassador expresses here are, to put it mildly, shocking and extremely disturbing. By drawing distinctions between Israeli terrorist victims and Norwegian terrorist victims he is indirectly legitimising the actions of terrorist organizations such as Hamas, which purposely targets civilians. Mr Sevje should also know that there are no such things as legitimate victims of terrorism, nor can there ever be such a thing. Victims of terrorism are by definition always innocent, and attacks that specifically target them can never be justified or excused. They has to be condemned in the strongest of terms. The ultimate consequences of Mr Sevje’s words is that anyone who is opposed to the current immigration policies of the Norwegian Government is somehow more justified, by using Mr Sevje’s own strange logic, in using terror against members of the Norwegian Government and its youth wing the AUF, because these two organizations have chosen to ‘forego’ Norwegian culture, a claim which of course is completely ludicrous.

The conservative community in Norway have been vigorously harassed in the MSM since the attacks for having ‘emotionally’ contributed to the Oslo attacks, despite the fact that they have never encouraged or condoned such measures. The conservative community have in fact strongly condemned it and never attempted to make any excuses or find any mitigating circumstances that could be construed as indirect support for the terrorist. But still they have been harangued for it in the MSM. Mr. Sevje on the other hand, who in this interview makes a distinction between Israeli and Norwegian terrorist victims are given the all clear by the Norwegian MSM, and the episode is allowed to pass ‘unnoticed’ in the Norwegian press.

Another thing that is disturbing in this interview is that Mr Sevje legitimises Hamas as a worthy partner for dialogue. He’s claiming that no peace can be achieved without Hamas at the negotiation table. Mr. Sevje ought to know that it’s completely unacceptable to enter into negotiations with terrorists. I wonder if Norwegian authorities would be willing to sit down and talk to Breivik’s accomplices, if such do exist, or whether they would be willing to accept land for peace in order to dissuade terrorists from future attacks on innocent Norwegian youths. I don’t think the authorities in Norway would even contemplate such a scenario. So why is Mr Sevje suggesting that the Israelis should have to do so?