Fjordman Lives On

Today’s edition of the Norwegian newspaper VG published an essay by Fjordman. The text, however, had been significantly redacted by the editors of VG without the author’s consent. To set the record straight, the complete article is reproduced below in English, followed by the original Norwegian.

Just as we did several weeks ago, we aim to overcome the stifling censorship imposed by the Norwegian media by spreading this essay as widely as possible. To help the cause of free speech, please mirror it on your blog or website.

We intend to demonstrate once again to the Norwegian newspapers that we can reach a wider readership than they can.


Introductory note from Fjordman:

This is my most recent Norwegian article as it should have appeared in print. Today VG, the largest national newspaper in Norway, published this article in the paper edition, but they also cut out a couple of vital paragraphs without my knowledge or approval. My essay was not over-long, and I stayed within their normal limits.

The missing paragraphs referred to the fact that Mohammed had sex with a nine-year-old child (Aisha) and that modern Islamic theologians such as Yusuf al-Qaradawi support this policy today because it is a part of Mohammed’s Sunna, his personal example. Journalist Elisabeth Skarsbø Moen and others deleted this, accidentally-on-purpose. They also deleted my suggestion that NRK TV dare not show a drooling Yusuf al-Qaradawi in a wheelchair telling Muslims that pedophilia is OK, in contrast to the parody of me they have been broadcasting.

Why did they cut this out? Fear, plain and simple.

I composed this essay in response to Anders Giæver, who writes regular commentary for VG and has slimed me several times for my alleged “paranoia” about Islam and Muslims. So VG can harass me for having paranoia about pro-Islamic censorship, and when I reply they censor me with pro-Islamic censorship.


Fjordman Lives On

by Peder Jensen, also known as Fjordman

Translation: Cecilie, aided by Fjordman.

A commentator at VG (Verdens Gang, Norway’s largest national newspaper), Anders Giæver, has attacked me multiple times in his columns in that newspaper. On the one hand he describes me disdainfully as an average Norwegian, but also adds that I am “one of the most central promoters of Islam-hatred and Muslim-paranoia in Europe.”

Who has decided what constitutes paranoia? Mr. Giæver has read hardly any of the writings of Bat Ye’or about Eurabia, nor Robert Spencer’s website Jihad Watch, and has probably not understood what little he may have read. He is incapable of disproving a single factual piece of information I have published, nor my statement about Islam being impossible to reform or fit in with Western civilization. The only thing he has to show for himself, therefore, is personal attacks.

It is true that after the terrorist attacks of July 22nd I was exhausted. When I appeared in VG under my real name I seriously contemplated giving up my career as a writer. However, after the situation has calmed down a bit and I could think things through, I have decided to continue with undiminished force.

Right from the beginning I have been saying that terrorists, whether they come in the shape of Islamic Jihadists or Anders Behring Breivik, should not be allowed to decide what a free society can or cannot discuss, and I meant that. If that is the case, they should not to be allowed to dictate to people who are critical of Islam and mass immigration, either.

I will definitely not accept that the mass media should be allowed to threaten or harass me to make me shut up.

If one day I should stop my activities it will be through my personal choice, not one dictated by Anders Giæver, Marie Simonsen or other media bullies.

In its ethical guidance the “Vær Varsom” (“Be Careful”) poster, the Norwegian Press Association gives a person the right to reply to statements uttered about him in the press. I will in the future actively exercise this right, which means I will be more visible than ever.

If Norwegian newspapers refuse to publish my essays I will publish them on the Internet at Gates of Vienna, both in English and in Norwegian, as examples of press censorship. My book The Curious Civilization will also be published as planned in 2012.

The Islamic Council of Norway, which is coercively sponsored by native, non-Muslim Norwegian taxpayers, receives guidance from the European Council for Fatwa and Research about whether they should be for or against the death penalty for homosexuals.

The Council is headed by Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who is the spiritual guide of the Muslim Brotherhood. Qaradawi has among many other things boasted openly that Muslims will soon conquer Europe, and has praised the Nazi Holocaust.

Representatives for Jonas Gahr Støre’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs have met members of the Brotherhood for talks in Oslo.

The author Walid al-Kubaisi describes al-Qaradawi as being “more dangerous than bin Laden” and describes how he issues fatwas ruling that it is allowed (halal) to marry children. I refer to the article “Islam and marriage with minors.” Muhammed himself married Aisha when she was only six, and consummated the marriage when she was nine and he was 54 years old (Bukhari 7.62.64). This has become part of his Sunna, or personal example, to be followed for all time.

In February 2006 a delegation was sent from Norway to the Middle East to beg for mercy from the mighty Yusuf al-Qaradawi because of the Mohammed cartoons. This was supported by the Norwegian government of PM Jens Stoltenberg.

Qaradawi then demanded a legal ban on criticism of Mohammed, the founder of Islam. This would imply submission to sharia law and that Europe and the Western world would from now on be under Islamic rule. That is what the international conflict over the Danish cartoons was really about.

Thomas Seltzer, a host of NRK3, has shown a caricature of me as a paraplegic writer in a wheelchair. I suppose this makes me Norway’s answer to Stephen Hawking, which I take as a compliment. Alternatively, one could be lead to believe that people in wheelchairs are slavering idiots, which is not particularly tasteful.

The difference between a humorist and a bully is that a true humorist makes fun of the powerful, not the weak. Seltzer does not dare to show a drooling Qaradawi in a wheelchair telling Muslims that pedophilia is OK.

I don’t take this very personally, given that Mr. Seltzer can scarcely be taken seriously. However, it does annoy me that he can force others to sponsor this through TV licensing, whether they want to or not.

Among the most important things one can do to get a more open debate in Norway today is to cancel all public funding for the press, as well as put an end to NRK [the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation] in its present form.


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Fjordman lever videre

Av Peder Jensen, også kjent som Fjordman

VGs kommentator Anders Giæver har flere ganger angrepet meg i avisens spalter. På den ene siden beskriver han meg med forakt som en gjennomsnittsnordmann, men legger til at jeg er “en av de mest sentrale premissleverandørene for islamhatet og muslimparanoiaen i Europa.”

Libya’s Future is Sharia

The following video is a report from an Iranian TV news channel about the end of the Qaddafi regime and the new transitional government in Libya. The important thing to notice is the proclamation that Libyan law will be based on Islam, and any law that violates Islamic doctrine will be considered void.

Many thanks to Shab for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling. Warning: there are brief images of violence in some of the news footage in this clip:

Gates of Vienna News Feed 10/23/2011

Muammar Qaddafi’s son Saif is currently on the run, and may be severely wounded, according to some reports. But how badly does the British government want him to be caught? Saif allegedly has inside knowledge of all the sweetheart oil deals made between the British and Libya, including the one that Tony Blair brokered for the release of the Lockerbie bomber. Saif knows where all the bodies are buried, so to speak…

In financial news, German Chancellor Merkel and French President Sarkozy have told Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi that Italy must act responsibly, and make the right decisions to put its fiscal house in order. The Dutch finance minister also chimed in, insisting that Italy must make budget cuts.

In other news, Saudi Arabia’s decision to limit the number of foreigners resident in the kingdom to 20% of the total population may cause up to three million people to lose their jobs.

To see the headlines and the articles, open the full news post.

Thanks to C. Cantoni, ESW, Fjordman, Insubria, JD, Kitman, Mary Abdelmassih, Vlad Tepes, and all the other tipsters who sent these in.

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The Rule of Law After 7/22

The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten, which refused Fjordman’s first right-of-reply article, has accepted his second submission. Many thanks to Kepiblanc for translating it into English. The original Norwegian version, which has just been published at Aftenposten, is at the bottom of this post.


The Rule of Law After 7/22

by Peder Jensen, a.k.a. Fjordman

I know that some people dislike me, which they are perfectly entitled to do. Yet it is important to remember that a civilized country ruled by law must function regardless of personal likes or dislikes. My unpleasant encounter with the Norwegian police raises fundamental questions regarding the handling of witnesses in major criminal investigations. You can still be interested in these issues even if you disagree with or dislike my writings.

Furthermore, it is meaningless to hold well-documented texts responsible for the actions of a disturbed person. Assuming that we take “psychological accountability” seriously, we should also hold those accountable who distribute the Koran — which very explicitly encourages violence against non-Muslims — and thus make them co-responsible for countless actions of Jihadist terrorism around the entire world. Is this happening?

In his terror manifesto, Anders Behring Breivik quoted numerous different people from all over the world, obviously without their knowledge or approval. Being quoted by persons one has never met is something beyond one’s control, but since I was the only Norwegian among those quoted there I realized that I sooner or later would have to discuss this matter with the authorities.

I first contacted the Norwegian Police Security Service [PST] by physically knocking on the door of their headquarters in Oslo. However, they didn’t want to talk to me and told me to send them an email instead. I suppose the security services have coffee breaks, too. Judging by the newspapers one could get the impression that the police were actively seeking me out, yet neither the police nor the press had the slightest idea who I was until on August 4th when I knocked on the door to Manglerud Police Station, accompanied by Knut Ditlev-Simonsen from the law firm Staff. As far as they were concerned I might as well have been Mickey Mouse.

Although I was not legally obliged to do so I answered most of their questions. The only form of indirect contact I have ever had with Breivik is that both of us posted comments on the website Document.no. It is true that he tried to contact at me some point in 2009 and sent me a handful of emails. As with everything else he said to others prior to his atrocities, they were hardly spectacular or sensational and contained no hint of future terror actions. Furthermore, I was totally uninterested in meeting with him. Apart from that, I don’t know anything about Breivik. Absolutely nothing.

After some hesitation I voluntarily gave the police access to my telephone log, which must be considered to be a very friendly gesture by a person who is not charged with anything and who himself knows that he was not involved in the criminal actions. Virtually the only one of the police requests that I turned down was giving them my computer, which I considered to be too serious a violation of my privacy. I was then physically followed by several police officers and forced to hand it over.

It was Bård Dyrdal, leader of the program for questioning witnesses after the 7/22 terror attacks, who announced the use of force against my person, supported by police attorneys Christian Hatlo and Pål-Fredrik Hjort Kraby. “He had the status of witness and we got a long and fair explanation from him to the questions we had,” Kraby told NRK [Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation].

This is correct. I held the status as a witness both before and afterwards and have never been suspected of or charged with a criminal act of any kind. For the record, after having studied all of my communications for several months, the police informed me by email in October that I am still not suspected of anything.

When Dyrdal announced that I would immediately be escorted by half a dozen police officers to my flat in order to search through my books, movies, photos, kitchen equipment and dirty laundry for hours and hours he declared that there was a lot of pressure in this case, which probably means that the police let the mass media dictate their actions in the case against Behring Breivik. There was no objective, professional justification for what they did to me.

They also confiscated a suitcase with clothes and socks that contained no electronic equipment at all. At a time when far too many rapes and other serious crimes remain unsolved in parts of the country one has to wonder whether it is the right decision by the police to spend several months on studying the socks of a person who has no criminal record .

There is absolutely nothing on my PC that could possibly connect me to the terror attacks. The only thing there that might be of interest to the police authorities — and then to the PST more than the regular police — are contacts I have with peaceful individuals in many countries who do not like Islam. This means that the Norwegian police disregarded all common legal procedures in order to confiscate a PC that can be used for nothing other than conducting illegal political surveillance.

The police justified their actions against me by using something called a third-party search [tredjemannsransaking], which would imply that evidence of Breivik’s terror attacks should exist in my flat and that there was a danger that this evidence could be lost or destroyed. This is ridiculous. I had contacted the police myself and answered their questions for many hours precisely because I had nothing to hide. Besides, at this point two weeks had passed since the terror attacks, plenty of time to get rid of any evidence had such evidence existed in the first place, which it didn’t.

I have never before heard of any Western democratic country where a voluntary witness who himself contacted the authorities, who was described by the police as being cooperative, who has no criminal record, did not know the perpetrator, and on top of everything else was nowhere near the crime scene when the crime took place have his apartment ransacked and his computer equipment confiscated.

When I told Lars Hedegaard of the International Free Press Society what kind of treatment I had been given as a witness, he responded that it reminded him of the situation in totalitarian states, like the ones we are all too familiar with from the twentieth century. “If someone had told me a few years ago that the free and proud Norway which we Danes admired during the German occupation would end up like this, I would have considered them insane.” Harsh words from a neighbor, and damaging to Norway’s international reputation.

If my case is not disputed, I fear that it may create a dangerous precedent. Worst case scenario, it could imply that the police can from now on ransack the apartment of citizens they dislike, especially if they say something Politically Incorrect, and confiscate their computer equipment, camera and clothes without charging them of having done anything criminal whatsoever. If this happens, we no longer have a crime police; we have a thought police. Do we want a society like that?


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Rettsstaten etter 22/7

av Peder Jensen, også kjent som Fjordman

Jeg vet at det er folk som ikke liker meg. Det skal de få lov til, men det er viktig å huske på at en sivilisert rettsstat skal fungere uavhengig av om man liker vedkommende eller ei. Jeg mener at mitt ublide møte med norsk politi reiser prinsipielt viktige spørsmål knyttet til hvordan man skal behandle vitner i store kriminalsaker. Du kan interessere deg for dette selv om du er uenig med eller til og med misliker mine skriverier.

Who Are These Soldiers of Allah?

Djemila Benhabib is the author of Ma vie à contre-Coran (“My life against the Koran”). She is the daughter of a Greek Cypriot mother and an Algerian father, and was raised in Oran, Algeria. She now lives in Quebec, and the interview below is from a Quebec television program.

Many thanks to Bear for the translation, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:


A full transcript is below the jump:

“We Do Not Want Intellectuals”

My acquaintance with the nature of Islamic fundamentalism began thirty years ago when I first read Among the Believers: An Islamic Journey by V.S. Naipaul. I’m now in the process of rereading the book, just to see what it looks like after sitting through ten years of Advanced Jihad Studies.

It’s an extraordinary book. Mr. Naipaul understood the Islamic revival long before any of the rest of us had even thought about it. And he managed this simply by traveling to Islamic countries and talking face-to-face with Muslims. He listened carefully to what they said to him, and took them on their own terms.

His first stop was Iran, in the summer of 1979, a few months after the Islamic Revolution. At that time the leftists had not yet been entirely eliminated from their prominent positions in the new government and society. Some of the purges of communist groups and publications took place while he was still in the country.

The following excerpt is from the end of Section I, pp. 81-82, just before the author flew from Tehran to Karachi. Behzad is the young Iranian communist who acted as Mr. Naipaul’s guide and translator while he was in Iran:

The plane that was to leave at 7:30 didn’t arrive until 10:00. We began to taxi off at 11:25 but then were halted for a further hour, while American-made Phantoms of the Iranian Air Force took off. I thought they were training. They were in fact taking off on Khomeini’s orders to attack the rebel Kurds in the west. Later, in Karachi, I learned that two Phantoms had crashed, and the news was curiously sickening: such trim and deadly aircraft, so vulnerable the inadequately trained men within, half victims, yet men that morning obedient to the will of God and the Twelfth Imam and full of murder.

To Kurdistan, following the Phantoms, went Ayatollah Khalkhalli, Khomeini’s Islamic judge, as close to power as he had boasted only ten days before in Qom. In no time, moving swiftly from place to place in the August heat, he had sentenced forty-five people to death. He had studied for thirty-five years and was never at a loss for an Islamic judgement. When in one Kurdish town the family of a prisoner complained that three of the prisoner’s teeth had been removed and his eyes gouged out, Khalkhalli ordered a similar punishment for the torturer. Three of the man’s teeth were torn out on the spot. The aggrieved family then relented, pardoned the offender, and let him keep his eyes.

It was Islamic justice, swift, personal, satisfying; it met the simple needs of the faithful. But we hadn’t, in the old days, been told of this Iranian need. This particular promise of the revolution had been blurred or fudged; and we had read, mostly, Down with fascist Shah. Only Iranians, and some foreign scholars, knew that when Khomeini was a child — while the Qajar kings still ruled in Iran — Khomeini’s father had been killed by a government official; that the killer had been publicly hanged; that Khomeini had been taken by his mother to the hanging and told afterwards, “Now be at peace. The wolf has attained the fruit of its evil deeds.”

Gates of Vienna News Feed 10/22/2011

The heir to the Saudi throne, Crown Prince Sultan Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, has died. According to unofficial reports, the 85-year-old prince was in New York being treated for cancer at the time of his death. King Abdullah is 87 and said to be ailing, so this leaves the succession to the throne uncertain, and may be a cause for concern within the kingdom.

In other news, the construction of the first stand-alone mosque on Prince Edward Island has begun in Charlottetown. Meanwhile, in the far west of Canada, author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali is scheduled to speak at an event in Calgary on Tuesday evening.

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Ahmadi Leader Warns Geert Wilders

Geert Wilders may have won his court case in Amsterdam, but the threats — ahem, I mean “warnings” — against him haven’t stopped.

The Ahmadis comprise a small Islamic sect that is considered heretical by mainstream Sunnis and Shi’ites, and is frequently persecuted in countries with a Muslim majority. On one issue, however, all three Islamic groups are in agreement: Geert Wilders is a very, very bad dude.

The Ahmadi umbrella organization Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat — headquartered in London, where else? — reports in a press release that its leader, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, issued a warning to Geert Wilders during Mr. Ahmad’s visit to the Netherlands:

World muslim leader sends warning to dutch [sic] politician Geert Wilders

Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad also praises Queen Beatrix

During a recent visit to Holland, the world Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, issued a stark warning to Geert Wilders, the far-right Dutch politician. He warned Wilders that if he continued to defame Islam and the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) then he and other like-minded individuals would be humiliated by God Almighty.

Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad said that Wilders had exceeded all limits of falsehood and hatred in his opposition towards Islam. He said Wilders was motivated solely by a desire to further his own political ambitions and so the time had come to warn him about the consequences of his actions. He said that irrespective of whether Wilders gained further political capital in the short term, ultimately his antics would lead only towards abject failure and humiliation.

Addressing Wilders directly, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad said:

“Listen carefully — You, your party and every other person like you will ultimately be destroyed. But the religion of Islam and the message of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) will remain forever. No worldly power, no matter how powerful and no matter how much hatred they bear towards Islam, will ever succeed in erasing our religion.”

Mr. Ahmad was careful to emphasize that he was not predicting or advocating any violence against Mr. Wilders:

What Honor?

Vlad Tepes has uploaded two videos about the case of Mohammad Shafia, a Muslim Canadian who is on trial for murdering his ex-wife and three daughters to defend the “honor” of his family.

The first clip is from Ezra Levant’s program. His guest is Raheel Raza, a Muslim woman who was abused but managed to escape:


It take exception to Ms. Raza’s assertion that the mandate to abuse women is not in the Koran; it most emphatically is in the Koran. I quote from the most authoritative source on Sunni Islamic law, Reliance of the Traveller, Book P, “Enormities”:

p42.0 A WIFE’S REBELLING AGAINST HER HUSBAND (def: m10.12)

p42.1 Allah Most High says:

“Men are the guardians of women, since Allah has been more generous to one than the other, and because of what they (men) spend from their wealth. so righteous women will be obedient, and in absence watchful, for Allah is watchful. And if you fear their intractability, warn them, send them from bed, or hit them. But if they obey you, seek no way to blame them” (Koran 4:34).

p42.2 The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

A Long Day’s Journey Out of Night, Part III

Below is the third article in a four-part series on history, human development, and Islam by our English correspondent Seneca III. A slightly different version of this essay was previously published at Crusader Rabbit.

Previously: Part I, Part II.


A Long Day’s Journey Out of Night
Part III: Belief

by Seneca III

On a chill Thursday morning, February 17th in the year 1600, just sixteen years before Galileo Galilei barely escaped the same fate, the fifty-one-year-old Benedictine friar Giordano Bruno was led naked and with an iron spike through his tongue into the Campo de’Fiori in Rome, burned at the stake for committing “heresy in matters of dogmatic theology”, and his ashes dumped in the Tiber. His crime had been to comment on the work of Nicolaus Copernicus and suggest that there were infinite worlds in the universe with intelligent life, some perhaps with beings superior to humans.

[“I can imagine an infinite number of worlds like the Earth, with a Garden of Eden on each one. In all these Gardens of Eden, half the Adams and Eves will not eat the fruit of knowledge, and half will. But half of infinity is infinity, so an infinite number of worlds will fall from grace and there will be an infinite number of crucifixions.” — Giordano Bruno, ‘On the Cause, Principle, and Unity’, 5th dialogue.]

This was an extremely brave thing to do. Within the Roman Catholic Ecumene of the 16th and 17th Centuries — just as it is today within the Islamic Umma — it was invariably fatal to challenge the Church’s doctrinal power base, a fate Copernicus, a curate and Renaissance polymath, had managed to avoid by publishing his seminal work ‘On the Revolutions of Celestial Spheres’ in 1543, only shortly before his death by natural causes at the age of seventy.

Whether the timing of its publication and his passing were planned or simply fortuitous is a moot point, although circumstances do point to the latter. But being the essential pragmatist that he was Copernicus may well have understood that the failure of the human mind to come to terms with the fundamental difference between faith and doctrine, between apostasy and heresy, has been a prime cause of conflict and atrocity throughout our history.

Bruno was also a cosmologist and polymath of high standing — his qualitative approach to mathematics and his application of spatial paradigms of geometry to language are considered a classic of their time — but in other respects he was a very different kettle of fish to Copernicus. Recent examination of the background to the case indicates that another dynamic had just entered stage left, Renaissance Hermeticism. Bruno subscribed to the mysticism verging on magic that lay at the core of Hermeticism, esoteric beliefs originating in the ancient Greek writings attributed to Hermes Trismegistus and which to some extent still exist today within Rosicrucianisn, Freemasonry and Coptic scripture.

In this context it is worth noting the seventh of the eight charges that Bruno faced:

Gates of Vienna News Feed 10/21/2011

The Norwegian state oil company has confirmed the discovery of a vast new oil field in the North Sea. The new reserves are thought to hold up to 1.5 billion barrels of oil. Meanwhile, Switzerland has passed Norway as the richest country in the world, based on the average per-capita wealth held by its citizens.

In other news, the United Arab Emirates are in the midst of a gasoline shortage. Despite having the sixth-largest oil reserves in the world, the government-mandated price for gasoline at the pump has caused the Emirates’ largest gasoline distribution company to operate at a substantial loss for the past year. This has dried up the flow of fuel to retail outlets.

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Sharia-Controlled Zones in Denmark

We’ve reported previously about the “sharia-controlled zones” in East London. Now it seems the same trend has come to Denmark

In the video below, a Danish TV news reporter interviews a young man about his desire for sharia in his neighborhood, and also his insistence that Islamic religious strictures forbid Muslims from voting in elections. He is forthright in his view that Islam and sharia will eventually rule in Denmark.

Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for uploading this video:



The Copenhagen Post has an article about the push for sharia-controlled zones in Denmark:

Islamists Seek to Introduce ‘Sharia Zones’

A majority of Danish Muslims distance themselves from small group of extremists

A fundamentalist Islamic group wants to set up zones in Copenhagen where Islamic Sharia Law should be upheld.

The group, ‘The Call to Islam’, belongs to a branch of Islam called Salafism, whose followers in the UK attempted to introduce similar Sharia zones in London earlier this summer.

A Mad Weir of Tigerish Waters

And if the world were black or white entirely
        And all the charts were plain
Instead of a mad weir of tigerish waters,
        A prism of delight and pain,
We might be surer where we wished to go
        Or again we might be merely
Bored but in the brute reality there is no
        Road that is right entirely.

— Louis MacNeice, from “Entirely”

This morning we received an email from a relatively new reader who lives in Florida. He proposed a topic he would like to see addressed at Gates of Vienna:

The world is a busy place right now. I won’t blame you for not addressing this topic right away. Your articles on history have been very well done and interesting. As I’ve said in a comment I am not a good student of history like some of my fellows so those entries about Germanic, Scandinavian, and Norman peoples are good.

Primarily my praise is for the fact that you do not pretend to cover up the sins of America’s ancestors as many enemies in our world would love to accuse you of. But I wonder if you could spend some time discussing, for the benefit of any open-minded accusers out there, the difference between the views of the alert, EDL class, of groups out there and racism.

I know there is a difference and it is primarily to do with migration, adsorption, absorption, getting along in freedom. In other words why, Gates of Vienna, are you not an Aryan nationalist bigoted collection of white guys?

As I wrote out my reply to him, it kept getting longer and more involved. The essay below is a lightly-edited adaptation of it.


That’s a good question. My wife will probably answer it differently, since she and I come at the issue from different angles.

To me, race is not the important issue; immigration is. If we (the USA) or Australia or European countries stopped all immigration, or at least slowed it down to a trickle, in two or three generations race would no longer be an issue. This would especially be the case in countries that have not experienced a lot of mass immigration up until now. France is an exception — it has an Algerian population of long standing, going back more than a hundred years, so its problems will remain.

In addition to limiting immigration, two other policies would be necessary:

1.		Deport all criminal immigrants, revoking the citizenship of serious criminals if they are naturalized citizens; and
2.		Insist on assimilation.

These steps would keep race from being an issue in most countries. Unfortunately, no Western country is doing these things — Denmark comes the closest — so we are headed for catastrophe, probably within the next twenty years or so.

The United States is also a special case. Black people were brought here against their will beginning four hundred years ago. In my area (Central Virginia), the ancestors of many of the black people arrived on this continent before the ancestors of the most of the white people who live here now. Thus they have at least as good a claim to the territory as the whites. There can be no moral justification for solving the “race problem” here through forced relocation — we are going to have to muddle through with what we have now.

In my local area, which is rural, the blacks and the whites are split about 50-50, and the populations are mixed fairly evenly. Yes, there are clumps of each race, but those are small and interspersed among each other. There is also a lot of interbreeding within the lower class.

This means that radical ideas about racial separation — e.g. David Duke on the white side, Louis Farrakhan on the black — cannot be implemented in Central Virginia without massive, apocalyptic violence. People who have lived here for centuries and do not feel like moving will not easily be uprooted to satisfy the schemes of power-mad people in Chicago or New Orleans. If such a “solution” were attempted, the fabric of our society would be utterly destroyed.

Debating Immigration: The Sweden Democrats vs. the Socialists

The following video comes highly recommended by our Swedish correspondent LN, who has this to say about it:

Even though this short video is in Swedish, you must see it! Study the body-language — Kent Ekeroth [of Sverigedemokraterna] is debating immigration to Sweden with [Social Democrat] Mona Sahlin and a (I think) Kurdish immigrant, Dilsa Demibag Steen, who not without success has chosen to be a professional debater and writer.

Ekeroth is citing statistics and using common sense, and the ladies are dreaming about even more open borders, more diversity, and intensified Multiculturalism.

In Sweden every crook is getting asylum. Hitler, if he were fleeing from justice in postwar Germany, would today get asylum in Sweden, because there would have been a risk that he would be hanged back home.

Now all the Libyan pro-Gaddafi crooks will come to Sweden, fleeing from their imminent executions in Libya…

If I get a time-stamped translation of this video, I’ll see about a subtitled version. In the meantime, for our Scandinavian readers, here’s the Swedish original, courtesy of Sverigedemokraterna’s YouTube channel:


The debate took place at “Globala gymnasiet 2011” — which would translate roughly as “Global High School” — in Stockholm.