The interesting thing about the Swedish Intifada is that international anarchists and “anti-fascists” are acting as an accelerant in the conflagration, with explicit connections to the rioting that has broken out all over Europe in solidarity with the Greek anarchists.
Also worth noting is the assertion of Waqf jurisdiction: since the premises in Malmö had been used as a mosque, they had thereby become sacred and are thus the property of Islam in perpetuity.
Our Flemish correspondent VH once again volunteered to dive into the information sewers on the AFA and anarchist websites, and has unearthed various bits and pieces about the situation in Malmö. Not much is available yet in English, but a rough picture of what’s going on can be put together.
First, an excerpt from Café Babel:
Protests spilled over into violence on Wednesday after the owner of a building in Rosengard housing and Islamic cultural centre and a mosque chose to use the space for other purposes. Centre workers moved out peacefully and handed over the keys, but a group of youths decided to camp in the basement. Police officers were told to remove them, sparking protests and violent clashes all over Rosengerden. The situation got worse when rioters seem to have received help for various autonomous left wing groups.
So far there have been five arrests, and the riots seem to calm down this evening.
Sweden has seen this types of riots before in city sections dominated by immigrants. It is a dangerous cocktail of extreme political opinions, in combination with alienation and a society that is closed in many respects that Sweden needs to solve.
Excerpts based on machine translations from Sydsvenskan:
Saturday evening a manifestation took place in Copenhagen to honor the boy who was shot to death by the Greek police earlier in December. The police assumed that many of the leftist activists in Malmö had gone [over the Öresund Bridge to Copenhagen] instead of going to Rosengård.
And:
Early Sunday morning no less than six cars were burning on Bennets road in Rosengård. The police suspect that cars were deliberately set on fire.
The car fires broke out at 4 and just after 5 o’clock Sunday morning. The rescue service is still at the scene.
Quotes from Ready To Go Sunderland Message Board:
The background is,
They had a mosque in this islamic centre, on a lease.
landlord decided not to renew it when it expired.
So rightfully it no longer belongs to the former owners.
Muslims claim it is now holy land and ground belonging to islam
”Police have to be brought in to close it down.
All hell breaks loose.
riots.
Its the cheek of them to complain constantly about the police. When these are the same people who repeatly attack the police,fire,and ambulance crews.”
[…]
“Today [Sunday] there was a fire crew parked less than a mile away because they just knew it was going to kick off. Added to this numerous bombs found in several locations today. All over a f***ing minature mosque that was rightfully closed down.”
“A few years back, their main mosque just down the road was set alight. Fire crews got there within 3 mins of the first report of it. They tried to put the fire out but they found themselves bombarded with petrol bombs amongst and vast array of other s***e. Then in the aftermath, the muslim community where outraged as to why the fire crews didnt put the fire out quicker. Claiming they purposely let the building burn for longer.”
For the Antifa connections, see this Indymedia post:
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Malmo riots, Sweden: Some context and pics
21.12.2008
Here are some (badly translated) statements from Malmo AFA and others regarding the recent riots in the city. Following that is some background to the events.
AFA Julia (Malmo):
Riots in the Manor in Rosengard continues. Young people who occupied the basement of the mosque at Ramel road are tired of police abuse and taken to more drastic methods to be seen and heard, when they had not heard in any other way. In this, they have helped and supported by activists from Malmö autonomous environment. We support the young people in the Manor just as we committed ourselves in squatter fights in Malmo and Lund and fight for the youth house. Fight for frirum is important, whether out of “young Muslims” or “Swedes.” It is important that we ensure that we have common interests with other groups than other autonomous, and discrimination based on ethnicity and religion and abuse from authorities and the police is something we always have to fight. We therefore call on all Trade activists to get to the Manor this weekend and show their support for the young people there and their struggle.
Statement put out by AFA Malmo:
Protests in Rosengard is self-defense against the class
2008-12-20
Young people occupied the room for 23 days. During those days was almost no discussion in the newspapers. At the eviction on Wednesday December 17, the police went in with a great strength. Dogs and pepper spray were used against young people gathered there to defend their local. After this incident the media has suddenly become very interested in what happens in Rosengard. But again, the issue ended up in the shadows. We know that you journalists like violence, you eat it for breakfast, breathe it during the day and dream about it at night. It is therefore not surprising that Rosengard again is focused on the front page.
Manor is an area of Rosengard, which has long been neglected. Preschools dare not let their children play on the part of the courtyard are among others due to open the drain and dangerous electricity which may hang freely. The people who live in the Manor may not pitch for his complaint about the standard of the apartments and the lack of utemiljön. The three landlords in the area Contentus, Newsec and EIA of Malmö has, together with the Municipal Ilmar Reepalu (s), Rosengard city politicians and Residents’ Association formed a working group called the Estates Group. Malmo is composed of different districts, which look very different. In some areas of Rosengard, such as the Manor, living many people with foreign backgrounds. City sees it as a problem that the area is crowded lived and that people are segregated. Additional debt on the residents of the area by landlords are consistently blaming the wear on the tenants, rather than the total lack of maintenance that has characterized the town for a long time. What is the politicians’ solution to the problems?
Within the framework of the Manor group’s work, it does not seem possible to find a solution to people’s overcrowding by, for example, build more rental flats or raise the standards of the apartments which already exist. Instead, they want to throw out a number of compounds from a local business they had in a long time, an activity that has been a gathering place for young people after school hours. Politicians claim that Rosengard is the city of Malmo who spends most of the activities for young people. And so be it, it is not so much emphasis necessary to outdo the other city, the youth activities.
Ilmar Reepalu and accomplices in the Tenants’ Association believes that the activities of the locale does not fit the area’s new profile. What is it for activities that fit in? Manor Group proposes instead that room now to contain an activity known as Boskolan, driven by the Tenants’ Association. There will be immigrants learn to live on Swedish way. It has not come with any explanation of what to live on Swedish way means. It is cramped lived in the Manor probably depends unlikely that people want to live crowded, rather that the politicians in City Hall are not interested in building housing for ordinary people. The only option in today’s class society is being forced to live in apartments managed by SHARK who just want shoes themselves. The Malmö is a segregated city we know already, the situation is hardly better of the municipality entirely let the free market rule over new construction.
People are tired. They are tired of their voices are not heard and that once they noted, so the question is not on the merits of the case anymore. When society wants to make a contribution in the district will send the police. Police targeted weapons against children. Instead of investing resources in leisure activities for young people, jobs for those who want jobs and decent housing, and your government watchdogs in order to maintain the monopoly of violence.
In the media, police have in recent days made a big thing of it is traveling behind many of the violence. They called for traveling are other residents in Malmo, no traveling troublemakers who have nothing better to do than to create riots. We who have been there living in Malmo and Rosengard is a part of Malmo which people both live in and visit daily. By attempting to separate the Rosengard from other Malmo to assist the media to further exotifiera image of the district. Rosengard is not an isolated island living their own lives. The area affected, like the rest of Malmo of the policies of the current situation, whether it is socialist or bourgeois.
The district politicians and the police are terrified of the unrest that is currently underway at Rosengard will spread to other parts of Malmo. Events such as those on Rosengard will continue to flare up as long as there is an ongoing disarmament of leisure activities around Sweden. This is not a point of order that can be solved with batons and pepper spray, it is a social problem that politicians themselves have created. Now when they painted himself into a corner they desperately try to draw attention elsewhere. So grateful that once more put the blame on the many young people living in the district.
It is clear that politicians can not solve the problems they themselves created. The media is not interested in highlighting the real problems that create class society is not so surprising. It sells just no news. All fine talk of a democratic dialogue works as long as people are shut up and is satisfied with the little they get. The welfare policies that politicians say they will bring is an insult to the working class, the only possibility for change is självorganiserng. None of the rights enjoyed working today have been free, they have come about thanks to their own initiative from below by collective struggle. This is regardless of whether it is right to a decent working environment, meaningful leisure activities or homes free of cockroaches.
We are not surprised by the development of Rosengard and sees it as a logical result of the lack of societal resources to the residents there. That a Shell Mack fire is nothing to get worked up over, it happened throughout the 1990s by understandable reasons, and will happen again. To some trash cans into the fire is not in proportion to the violence that the police against Malmö’s young people. The police have a proportionality principle, they will work after, a principle that they consistently seem to forget in some contexts. Criminal damage is not violent riots, to defend themselves against police attacks are no riots, there is self-defense. Direct action has always and will always, to be used by people to change and take power over their daily lives. To quote the IHT: Anger and despair are strong driving forces. At best, they can be turned into something constructive.
BACKGROUND from mainstream media:
Riot police from Stockholm and Gothenburg are being sent to provide back-up for their colleagues in Malmö as tensions in the southern city continue to flare.
After two nights of intensive rioting, police in the city requested assistance from units specially trained to deal with mass violent demonstrations.
“We don’t think it’s over yet. We think it’s going to continue and we have to be prepared to work around the clock,” said regional police spokesman Charley Nilsson.
Emotions have been running high in Malmö’s predominantly immigrant Rosengård district since police forcibly removed three squatters from the basement offices of an Islamic cultural centre. The premises had been occupied since November 24th as part of a protest against the landlord’s decision not to renew the association’s lease for the space, which it had held for the past fifteen years.
Thursday night saw the most extreme rioting in Rosengård since the disturbances began. Police were pelted with Molotov cocktails and bomb threats were issued against a local petrol station.
Police spokeswoman Ewa-Gun Westford said she would not even hazard a guess as to how many police vehicles were damaged in the rioting, as locals were reportedly joined by left-wing extremists, or “autonomists”, from outside the area.
The city’s fire and rescue services have been refusing to enter the area until their safety can be guaranteed.
One person was arrested for rioting, while another was detained for disturbing the peace.
By 3am on Friday the situation had stabilized somewhat and police were able to move in and remove burning trailers and other objects from the streets with the aid of a bulldozer.
Further links from VH (in Swedish):
- Possibly interesting article — Intifadan: Många och kända vänsterhuliganer (AFA) bakom upploppen
- AFA Julia Malmö: Rosengård — Kravallerna fortsätter
- Jihad i Malmö
15 comments:
One thing that has always confused me is the implicit assumption in this entire debate - that immigration must happen. I've fallen into the trap myself in the past, in arguments over the subject. There's this belief that immigration can't and shouldn't be prevented. The assumption runs through every shade of the political spectrum. TO ask "Why should it happen?" is met with blank stares at best, or accusations of racism at worst.
It's the assumption that drives everything we're up against. Immigration is a fact, they say. The anti-anti-jihad over at you know where bases its entire logical foundation on the assumption that immigration cannot be stopped and must be allowed. I just don't understand why they believe this. Immigration can be allowed, but a nation has the right to say "we don't want to allow it" or it is not a free nation.
It's OT, but this whole malmö thing sparked the train of thought. I haven't broached the subject with my wife's family but she labours under the assumption that immigration will happen no matter what... I expect they do as well. I did mention Malmö but they hadn't heard anything about it. It seems to have become a non-issue as far as the local media are concerned...
What logical justification does immigration have? It's inevitable, so it should be allowed to happen, and it's allowed to happen so it's really inevitable. Yet when the result is this, how can even an a-priori justification stand?
"Yet when the result is this, how can even an a-priori justification stand?"
At a guess Lawrence Auster would cite this as another example of the "unprincipled exception".
“A few years back, their main mosque just down the road was set alight. Fire crews got there within 3 mins of the first report of it. They tried to put the fire out but they found themselves bombarded with petrol bombs amongst and vast array of other s***e.....”
The anti-authority kneejerk reactions of the rabid left and muslims is a powerfull ploy against them (as much as the orderly and law abiding tendencies can be against conservatives faced with wickedness in the authorities). "Oft evil will shall evil mar" as Tolkein said.
The Islamic cuckoo's eggs are hatching.
And destroying their duped hosts.
Graham,
I don't see your comment as being other thread. It fits perfectly with this post. I would also extend that thought process to: if immigrants come and cannot behave themselves, deportation is appropriate. I would further extend that hospitality to naturalized citizens. If they cannot behave themselves in civilized society, let them return to a place and a culture where they feel at home.
Archonix, I agree,
There's little justification for mass immigration if you live in a country with a fragile environment. PC and self interest by business group have effectively suppressed discussion of the subject.
Do burnt out or destroyed-by-bombs mosques belong to Islam forever?
I am wondering if there is some central Muslim record keeping facility that keeps tabs on all the property claimed by Muslims over the course of history.
Also an area of speculative thought is: how are the boundaries of this "now holy and sacred and owned forever by Islam because it's been used as a mosque" determined? Is it just the ground upon which the building stood? Only the rooms used for actual prayer? Does the property claimed by Islam in these cases extend beyond the building margins?
If ground becomes their property in perpetuity just by the act of making it into a mosque, what is the principle that determines mosque-ishness(for lack of a better term)
Should landlords who lease buildings to Muslims have a clause refuting the transfer of ownership in case the building becomes a mosque in extreme circumstances or if the purpose of the lease is to create a mosque? Would that be counted as legal in their law for the landlord to retain ownership?
If the mechanism of transfer is just that a Muslim has prayed there, then wouldn't that mean that anywhere a Muslim prays becomes permanently the property of Islam by their laws? In such case, I think it would be in the best interests of all to allow businesses to prevent their adherents from praying on the business property.
Does anyone know the answers to these questions?
The penalty for leaving Islam is death. It is a one-way street. This applies to land as well. Once an area is Muslim controlled, it cannot revert back, otherwise it is 'occupied'. The obligation to kill 'occupiers' comes into effect. This along with Jihad, are some of the mechanisms that expand Islamic control.
Call Me Mom --
I can answer some of them.
Property which is sacred to Islam is held under a trust, called waqf, in perpetuity. In a Muslim country that is fully assimilated into the Ummah (i.e. part of Dar-al-Islam), this includes all property. Just as under Communism, there is no private property; everything belongs to Allah, and is held in trust by the Ummah, which may extend the trust to individuals or organizations. But all property is Allah’s.
In non-Muslim lands (Dar al-Harb), certain properties are sacred to Islam and are considered to fall under waqf jurisdiction. These include mosques, madrassas, and cemeteries where Muslims are buried. According to the Shariah, they belong to the Ummah in perpetuity.
The authority that keeps track of sacred Muslim property is the Waqf Board, which is fairly localized. In India these boards exist at the regional level, but I’m not sure what political entity includes them. An example of a waqf property is the Taj Mahal. The Ayodhya temple caused an immense amount of controversy because it had been a mosque, but the Hindus reclaimed the property and destroyed the mosque for the purpose of rebuilding their temple. To the Muslims, this was a violation of waqf.
The waqf designation ratchets in only one direction. Once property becomes sacred to Islam, it can never revert. Hence the anguish over Al-Andalus (Iberia).
The issue about teaching them to live in a swedish kind of way, lately there has been complaints from muslim families from having their apartments infested with cockroaches. Like in all other cases involving muslims, they blame the other part, in this case the landlord. Well, as you probably can imagine, the truth is not that simple. Rumor has it that these people has the tap water running 24/7 all year long. Also, they don't seem to use the shower properly, thus the water does not only flow down the sink-hole but is all over the bathroom floor. Also note that these families does not consist of 2-4 members as most native swedish families do but are much larger than that. So basically the mold and cockroach infestations are of their own making. I've also seen rumors that the stove in the kitchen is constantly on as well. The oil they use to cook, they just pour it into the kitchen-sink and it clogs up the pipes. They are constantly littering, the trash just goes out the window. It is also custom not to make racket after 22:00 at night or you could get evicted. Of course they don't respect this either, the racket could go on all night. One witness has even seen them cook over open fire outside the house, conclusion they don't understand how the electric stove in kitchen works. Supposedly an apartment like this is in serious need of a complete renovation after just one year of occupation.
Baron, do you know if one mosque in a country is enough to make claims of that entire country in perpetuity? If so we are truly screwed here in the west.
And so it begins.
Sweden, under pressure from the World Wide Depression, lacks the money to spread out bribes to stop the rioters.
The rioters, both Muslim and Antifa Anarchists, seek to extort money from the government which just is not there anymore.
So that leaves a huge gap, exposed. People lose property, there is not enough money to make everyone whole. The government is exposed as incompetent and powerless. A gap for protection of the property-holding classes and the ability of Muslims and Antifa to destroy at will is only going to aggravate this situation.
I think it's entirely probable that the riots will SPREAD and other places will be ablaze. With the police again powerless. Muslims and Antifa exercising power (to destroy) over greater and greater areas, including those held by private property owners.
Who are going to look to SOMEONE to fix the situation. That means IMHO some criminal network looking to become even more powerful and richer.
Thank you Baron.
Do you know if there is any way that land once claimed for Allah can be disowned? What if someone raises pigs on it?
I wonder where I could find out something like that. Hmmm...
There doesn't seem to be any precedent for that, unfortunately.
Before the little nasty puppet god of mahomet gets abrogated, should we concede that Israel and Spain are waqf as well?
I noticed that Sydsvenskan referred to the rioters as 'ungdomer'- youths. Not named Sven, Ole, Lars, Kjell, or Per, either.
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