Once again, Mr. Robinson did an excellent job of throwing the hostility right back into the interviewer’s court. Pay particular attention to their exchange about Hamas — Mr. Robinson really scored big-time on that one:
Hat tip: Kitman.
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Friday, February 04, 2011
Tommy Robinson on Sky News
English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson gave another interview, this one to Sky News. If anything, this interviewer is even more antagonistic towards the EDL than the BBC people — or maybe he’s just more overt about it.
Once again, Mr. Robinson did an excellent job of throwing the hostility right back into the interviewer’s court. Pay particular attention to their exchange about Hamas — Mr. Robinson really scored big-time on that one:
Hat tip: Kitman.
Once again, Mr. Robinson did an excellent job of throwing the hostility right back into the interviewer’s court. Pay particular attention to their exchange about Hamas — Mr. Robinson really scored big-time on that one:
Hat tip: Kitman.
19 comments:
Adam Boulton, your attitude makes me sick. I just wish you were as aggressive in your interrogations of the muslim representatives in our country. And you know that if you were, your life wouldn't be worth living. Tommy Robinson is representing one of the few groups of people in our country who have the courage and determination to actually stand against the atrocities being carried out against the indigenous peoples of England, with the connivance of the elite who are supposed to be governing on our behalf.
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Mary said...
That made me FURIOUS. How DARE he speak to Tommy with such disrespect???
Anyone have the contact info for that sneering, repulsive bag of [human waste] host? Please post it.
He seemed a bit lost with words, but that's not very important.
What's important is that he talks back, that he refuses to play the media's game, and it shows.
He manages to convey the feeling that anger is now on our side, that it's fully legitimate, and that it's here to stay.
Very good answer to the sneaky mask question : my family is threatened, you're not.
PR suggestion for Tommy:
Take down the picture of yourself wearing a ski mask on the website. I accept your explanation of why you were wearing mask. The point is our side (the counter-jihad side) is for banning the veil and, to be consistent, all public mask wearing
Good luck tomorrow.
Excellent, Tommy! He is getting better by the day! Fat Liebour Boulton could not string a clear sentence together, he was so pissed off: GOAL!!
For me, the EDL has been the biggest disappointment. It apparently is less concerned with developing a serious and reasonable defense of England than by simply being anti-Islam and in the same pulling the leftist antic of denouncing everything to the right of Leon Trotsky as racist, sexist or fascist.
They pretty much want to defend the current communist-feminist dystopia of integration, inclusion, non-discrimination. If the principal objection to the conquest of the West through demographic overrun is that immigrants aren't PC enough, then why bother. A civilization that is this meaningless doesn't deserve to be around.
rebelliousvanilla I think your missing the point with the EDL.These guys are not sitting around reading Hegel,or having coffee mornings talking over the current communist-feminist dystopia of anything.They are normal working class blokes who are concerned with an immediate situation that confronts them in their everyday life.They want to work,bring up their children,go to the pub and all without the future threat that their children will live in a society that doesnt even have a pub.
The basics of life are enough for many people to be happy.Their arguement is at a basic level and it is begining to work.Be thankful for small blessings.
p.s. Hitler had the same nihilist attidude that if the german people were not strong enough they deserved to go down in flames.Tell that to Magda Goebbels kids or some bloke that just wants to watch his team play football on a saturday afternoon.They will look at you and think you have gone mad.
They pretty much want to defend the current communist-feminist dystopia of integration, inclusion, non-discrimination.
Absolutely, but that's why the counter-Jihad movement is the first step to recovery and, paradoxically, at the same time, a dead end. It will transform itself at some point into a form of ethnic nationalism, which is the logic measure to be taken for group survival.
It reminds me of a suggestion made some years ago that the immigrants should pass through a test to check their suitability to the Dutch society, more precisely, if they can stand the pictures of gay kissing. That's all: no test of Dutch history, culture, laws, not even Dutch language, but suitability to the liberal order. Which probably means replacing the Moroccan immigrants with those icons of liberalism, the pimps from Albania (or Kosova).
Of course, such a crazy state of affairs will not last. In the upcoming revolution, EDL-types, while necessary the first revolutionary stage, will be crushed by what one of their forgotten uber-mentors, Lenin, called "the internal contradictions of class struggle". Well, that class struggle concept is a little bit passé, since now we deal with Frankfurt School Marxism which replaced not-enough-resentful proletarians with 100% resentful minorities, but the idea remains.
RebelliousVanilla writes:
For me, the EDL has been the biggest disappointment. It apparently is less concerned with developing a serious and reasonable defense of England than by simply being anti-Islam and in the same pulling the leftist antic of denouncing everything to the right of Leon Trotsky as racist, sexist or fascist.
They pretty much want to defend the current communist-feminist dystopia of integration, inclusion, non-discrimination. If the principal objection to the conquest of the West through demographic overrun is that immigrants aren't PC enough, then why bother. A civilization that is this meaningless doesn't deserve to be around.
I agree with Rebellious Vanilla wholeheartedly, but I still feel very proud of Tommy (Steven) for his taking action. And there is no way he deserved to be spoken to with such contempt by that blob on SKY. At least these men are doing SOMETHING which is why I admire them. Sadly though, Vanilla is right. Ultimately, this fight against 'Islamisization'is only the tip of the iceberg as far as our real pressing problems are concerned.
R-V and Mary, the EDL is setting the ball in motion. Don't protest that it's not doing more, just be grateful that it's doing what it's doing.
Sohns and Dottirs -
Lennon should be an MP - with some financing and British Postal Voting
"...This Can Be Arranged..." I also like Lennon's Nom de guerre:
Tommy - a British soldier
Robinson - a true son of Robin of Sherwood Forrest fame.
Dr. Shalit
I'm not belittling people for risking their livelihood. This wasn't my intention. But doing so to bash Muslims for not being PC enough seems farcical to me. If I was to risk my life, I'd do it for a noble cause, which is to return Europe to the path on which our ancestors put it - and that wasn't of bashing outsiders for not respecting other outsiders. My grandfather didn't volunteer in WW2 and fought against both the Bolsheviks and the Nazis so that Europe would turn into this. I doubt that ANYBODY's parent or grandparent who fought in WW2 would have done anything if they knew where it would lead.
kloutlichter, this is exactly the problem - comfort seeking. Some social hormesis apparently does us good. And if they think that being English means tolerating everyone and that Muslims are bad because they don't do it, England is already ruined since they not only not read Hegel, but they didn't read their own history.
Armance, ethnic nationalism is a pleonasm. And the only positive outcome that can come out of the Counterjihad movement is a destruction of liberal values by exposing the inconsistencies and their farcical nature. Then, probably new people will be needed because from what I saw, the vast majority of people who mind Islam do it because Muslims threaten their little liberal bubble.
And our problems precede the Frankfurt school by a century or more. The Frankfurt school just made them obvious. And if I was Dutch, I wouldn't die for such a Netherlands(with gay tests). I'd probably be more comfortable in Islam with Sharia law than with liberalism implemented to its full conclusion.
RV ,I get your points and agree with them.What I dont agree with is a suggested outcome other than comfort seeking.Whats the point of any of this if the conclusion isnt to be able to live a comfortable and happy life at the end of it.An eternal struggle might keep some happy but most people just want to live life in comfort and peace.Obviously the situation at the moment is not acceptable.Obviously the problem is alot of people sit on their behinds and let their current comfortable situation stagnate into the mess we have.Obviously this utopian idea of 'comfort'is a long way off and may not happen.But it is the job of anyone in power to try and create the conditions for its citizens to live in comfort and peace.
The majority of people couldnt care less about reading Hegel or any other guy with enough money to sit on his behind and think about the world,but it is up to those that do to make the right decisions for all.Obviously those decisions are open to debate.
kloutlichter, what you're saying is exactly why most people shouldn't vote(since if you don't read, you hardly know what world you're living on).
On another note, your statements show how devalued the educational system is in the West.
There is a point related to the one kloutlichter was making, which is valid, and which was expressed beautifully by Joseph Sobran in this great article:
Sobran's Pensees
It is very long, but what I am referring to is right at the beginning, about "normal life" as distinct from, and prior to, politics. "Comfort" is not the thing Sobran would value most about "normal life", but there is a fundamental sense in which, I think, we all would agree with Sobran here, that the ends of politics should be for people to be undisturbed and happy in their normal lives, rather than enlisted in a plan to remake the entire society to fit someone's theory. kloutlichter's sense of what sort of happiness people will or should pursue is impoverished if he can only describe it as "comfort", and shows a lack of historical perspective, but there is still a good point there if you reinterpret "comfort" to mean the enjoyment of "normal life" as Sobran puts it.
I dont think I lack historical perspective polymath.I have a good degree in modern History and what history tells me is that it is always a minority in power that sets the agenda for all.That that minority can and usually does fall,only to be replaced by another bunch with their agenda.Historical perspective tells me that generally we are all whistling in the wind on this one.
Reb vanilla you are right as far as the education system in GB is concerned.It is continuously dumbed down to the point where I believe my 9 yr old daughter is either a retard or that the school system is now teaching 9yr olds as if they are 6.
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