A University of California, Irvine, disciplinary committee ruled that a Muslim student group should be suspended for at least a year because of a protest that disrupted a talk by Israel’s ambassador and led to the arrest of 11 students, according to documents released Monday.
The letter from a student affairs disciplinary committee to Muslim Student Union leaders said the group was guilty of disorderly conduct, obstructing university activities, furnishing false information and other violations of campus policy.
University spokeswoman Cathy Lawhon said the committee’s decision will be a binding recommendation to the campus’ office of student affairs if a planned appeal by the group does not succeed.
The students aren’t happy:
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MSU attorney Reem Salahi said the committee relied on evidence relied that was “inadequate and problematic” but declined to outline the group’s challenge in detail. She said the decision, if sustained, would leave Muslim students without an organization representing their interests.
“It really does have very lasting constitutional implications,” she said. “It’s a chilling effect for Muslims on campus and their right to associate.”
They’ve needed to chill out for a real long time. It’s about time someone put ice down their backs.
Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren was repeatedly interrupted and called “murderer” and “war criminal” by pro-Palestinian students as he was giving a talk on the Middle East peace process in February.
Eleven students were cited on charges of disrupting a public event after they were requested to refrain from heckling but did not.
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The MSU condemned the ambassador’s appearance but insisted it did not organize the protests.
Uh huh. Sure. Y’all were all at the library, studying.
The disciplinary committee, however, said a review of online message group conversations and minutes from an MSU meeting revealed that the group did engineer the protests and instructed participants to lie about its involvement.
The group’s preparations allegedly included scripting statements for protesters to make during the event and instructing participants to cheer at disruptions.
“Be VERY LOUD, firm and strong … but remain composed and under control. Do not let your emotions get the best of you. Remember that this is a planned/calculated response and not a venting session,” the committee quoted organizers as telling participants in meeting minutes.
So these idjits kept notes? You know why? Because they’ve been given free rein for so long they no longer believed they were touchable. I don’t blame them at all. They’re used to acting like this and getting away with it.
Well good on the grown-ups!
The committee also ruled that the group should be put on disciplinary probation for a year following its suspension, which ends in August 2011, and that members collectively complete 50 hours of community service.
Maybe they could clean out Christian churches or something usefully haram? Har har.
Hat tip Israpundit
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She said the decision, if sustained, would leave Muslim students without an organization representing their interests.
She says that like it's a bad thing.
“It really does have very lasting constitutional implications,” she said. “It’s a chilling effect for Muslims on campus and their right to associate.”
Le ditto.
The time for these scum bag Muslim networks and their diabolical taqiyya to be forced out into the disinfecting sunlight is long overdue.
That sure makes my day ! Enough of their antiques ! A little reality check for them ! Good on the University to deal with them ! Enough is enough !
Jewish conspiracy
Communist conspiracy
Hi, this is off-topic a little but quick question. These two conspiracy theories overlap except that: a jewish controlled left wouldn't probably promote islam.
Are they both right (ie. it was started by jews but they lost control)? Or is the latter one wrong? (it is by a grand wizard of the KKK which DOES NOT mean he is a harry potter fan).
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“It’s a chilling effect for Muslims on campus and their right to associate.” . But islamists/mohammedans don't allow the right to associate with others if they disagree with them.
The more militant they are the more aggressive they become the more aggressiveWE must become.
I'm guessing it was decisive that the Uni authorities were able to show that the MSU had lied. What's the betting the MSU will appeal on the gounds that their minutes etc shouldn't have been looked at?
Anyway, they'll be more careful next time, won't they?
I see, so if I form a Nazism group on a campus, I have freedom of assembly rights, right? Heck, I bet they'd close one if it was made for white American students. Or if it was against feminism or any of the pet ideologies of liberals.
Sam Buckett: I'm guessing it was decisive that the Uni authorities were able to show that the MSU had lied. What's the betting the MSU will appeal on the gounds that their minutes etc shouldn't have been looked at?
This is one of those rare and delicious moments where taqiyya unintentionally damns Islam just as irrevocably as it does when it is intentionally used as a weapon of deceit and war.
Muslims get used to lying so much that they also get used to getting away with it. As with truly hardcore criminals, the MSU's greatest outrage is not at being caught doing this but at being caught at all.
Taqiyya is one of the ultimate ethical crimes. To permit oneself an unfair advantage of dissembling and misdirection at all times that will always be refused any opponent is not just evil, but also − as can be seen from this incident − a crutch that can just as easily trip up those who come to depend upon it for their success.
It is with supreme confidence that I wager it was not some wise Muslim who came up with the old saying:
When you tell the truth you never have to remember a story.
rebelliousvanilla: I see, so if I form a Nazism group on a campus, I have freedom of assembly rights, right?
Too late. There're already Nazi groups on campus
I see. Shouting down Ahmedijad is good. Shouting down Israeli ambassador is bad.
I'm a former UCI alumnus. A few years ago I wrote them and told them to take my name off the list, because of the MSU activities on campus.
More than once, they have invited Abdel Malik Ali, a notorious and virulent anti-Semite, to speak at their gatherings.
Evidently it's OK for him to speak, but not the Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren.
It's a typical Muslim reaction; whenever something goes against them, to whine and complain and hide behind typically Western attitudes like "freedom of association" - something that would be the first to go under a caliphate - under Shi'a law. And for them to try to hide behind the Constitution is the epitome of hutzpah. Under Islam, constitutions are irrelevant. Allah and the State are one, and the Koran is the final authority.
I wonder if they've ever accepted any Jewish or Christian members.
I am a liberal and I am happy that appropriate action was taken against the Muslim Student Group. However, I have to say that associating Muslim ignorance with "liberal ideology" (a/k/a doing the right thing) or feminism is absolutely disingenuous and wrong.
Miss Sideway, please do not presume that only liberals like yourself are capable of "doing the right thing". Tories like myself are quite happy to put our money where our mouths are and donate to charity and so on. In fact, we're probably more likely to do it ourselves than liberals are.
Tories don't deny that the world has problems. We simply have this knack of saying that your solution to said problems isn't going to work (and we seem to be right more than we're wrong).
So don't make such a sweeping statement on morality when you don't know what any of us do. It's insulting and demeaning (and I have a witty insult here too, but I shall refrain, considering we speak of politics here).
teacher.paris: Shouting down Ahmedijad is good.
Shouting down a genocidal, monster raving loon who is quite content with turning Iran into one gigantic suicide bomber most definitely is good.
Ahmadinejad seems to have very little difference of opinion with Ayatollah Khomeini, who is well-known to have said:
"We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah; for patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world."
— Ayatollah Khomeini, Qom, 1980 —
Israel makes no secret of its Samson Option, whereby even a single WMD strike against the Jewish homeland could see the entire MME (Muslim Middle East) glassed and Windexed™.
Given that very strong possibility, yes, it does seem rather prudent to "shout down" a raving, genocidal lunatic like Ahmadinejad whose feckless obsession with killing Jews could well see untold millions of Muslims die at his behest.
During a recent Islamic confab, Saudi Arabia's king inasmuch told Ahmadinejad to sit down and STFU before he got all of them killed. So it is not just the counter-jihad movement that finds this mental and physical midget to be repugnant.
Shouting down [the] Israeli ambassador is bad.
Has Israel advocated the murder of every last Muslim on earth? Genocide against the Jews is a constant Islamic topic.
Your comparison does not hold any sort of water beyond that which is usually accompanied by a swift yank on the chain.
It's a start.
What ever happend to
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