The Prohibited Words
by JA
The title of an article presented in the Danish newspaper Weekendavisen (2008-07-04)
In the beginning of 2008 the Copenhagen City Deputy Mayor for Integration Jakob Hougaard (Socialdemokratiet — moderate socialist) arranged a conference on integration in the capital of Denmark, Copenhagen.
The psychologist Nicolai Sennels, who was then working at a correction facility for criminal youngsters, attended the conference. He was concerned by the difficulties he was faced with every day in his work with the young criminals — “one should not bypass the fact that most of the young criminals were of Muslim background,” and furthermore “one should not ignore the fact that the Quran and the Hadith encourage violence against non-Muslims,” Nicolai Sennels said at the conference.
Nicolai Sennels (wrongly) thought that the idea behind the conference was to develop a new strategy for the integration effort in Copenhagen and that every opinion was being welcomed.
He made it clear that one should not be blind to the importance of the cultural background of these young criminals, as most were of Muslim background. Nicolai Sennels had made observations that the young criminals with a Muslim background were responding differently to anger management techniques than young criminals with non-Muslim backgrounds.
He told the newspaper that a lot of the participants expressed support for his statements, but that they did not dare to do so publicly.
At the day of the conference Sami El Shimy, a team leader of an “on-the-streets team”, called Nicolai Sennels’ employer and made an official complaint. Nicolai Sennels’ employer informed his boss, the Vice Chief of Social Affairs of Copenhagen.
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Some two months later Nicolai Sennels was informed by the Vice Chief of Social Affairs of Copenhagen that his statements were not compatible with the “basic values” of the municipality of Copenhagen and that several participants of the conference had been offended by his statements.
Presented with this official reprimand, Nicolai Sennels left his job.
The leader of the conference, Jakob Hougaard, was not offended by the statements and, according to the newspaper, is afraid that “the whole matter” might derail the integration efforts. This point of view does not seem to concern the Copenhagen City Deputy Mayor for Social Affairs, Mikkel Warming (Enhedslisten, left-wing socialist), who was Nicolai Sennels’ political superior — “a representative of the municipality of Copenhagen cannot generalize,” Mikkel Warming told the newspaper.
But Nicolai Sennels is completely right in the fact that non-Western immigrants are over-represented in the crime statistics in Denmark.
Below are some numbers concerning criminal penalties in Denmark in 2002 (males from 15 to 64 years of age) presented by national statistician Jan Plovsing in the newspaper Berlingske Tidende (2004.12.12).
The numbers describe the differences between non-Western immigrants and Danes.
A “Dane” is a person having Danish citizenship or a person with at least one parent who has Danish citizenship.
Furthermore, one should be aware of the fact that the statisticians have counted the number of criminals and not the number of criminal offences.
Physical assault penalties (being part of major crime penalties):
- 261 to 89 (100 being the mean) corrected for age*
- 143 to 96 (100 being the mean) corrected for age and socioeconomic status**
Major crime penalties:
- 241 to 90 (100 being the mean) corrected for age*
- 24 to 89 (100 being the mean) corrected for age and socioeconomic status**
| * | Correction for age is a generally accepted statistical method of correction. | |
| ** | Correction for socioeconomic status is a more debatable statistical method of correction. |
11 comments:
Nicolai Sennels had made observations that the young criminals with a Muslim background were responding differently to anger management techniques than young criminals with non-Muslim backgrounds.
One word: Entitlement.
He told the newspaper that a lot of the participants expressed support for his statements, but that they did not dare to do so publicly.
One word: Traitors.
Europe's crucifixion of its Cassandras may well be the most damning act of all. As with the ill-fated Greek prophetess, nearly everyone refuses to believe such dire forecasts. Far more ironic is how, despite any disbelief of these ostensibly dubitable prophecies, such ominous predictions are still given sufficient credibility whereby they manage to constitute grounds for criminal prosecution.
So, which is it? Baseless predictions that serve no use and are insubstantial by their very nature? Or, are they alarming forecasts of scenarios so disturbing to the fantasies of Europe's liberal Marxists that they must be supressed even as they are declared insubstantial?
Interesting, that definition of "Danish"...
In a strictly legal sense it is correct:
A “Dane” is a person having Danish citizenship or a person with at least one parent who has Danish citizenship.
However, I wonder how many of these people truly consider themselves "Danish" in any meaningful (i.e. non-legal entitilement) sense?
I realize that in a study like this is is probably impossible to accurately measure that sort of thing, but my gut feeling is that if "the Dane in the street" were asked about how many of the sample were "Danish", the number might be somewhat lower, which would make those ratios look even worse.
If JA reads this, could he please clarify his statistics? I could not make anything of them.
For example: what do the figures 261 and 89 pertain to?
The title is "physical assault penalties", but this contradicts the previous mention that "the statisticians have counted the number of criminals and not the number of criminal offences".
Are we to believe that Danish courts handed only 261 + 89 penalties for physical assault in 2002, for the entire country?
Such ethnic statistics are very useful, especially for us in France where they are forbidden.
If we can prove that immigrants/Muslims in many European countries are disproportionately breaking the law, it becomes more difficult for multiculturalists to pretend that France might be miraculously exempt from this trend, which is obviously the aim of the legal ban of such statistics here.
However, in order to disseminate these statistics and argue upon them, they have to be understandable and rock-solid.
There's no way I could use the afore-mentioned figures on a French blog.
Thank you.
"This point of view does not seem to concern the Copenhagen City Deputy Mayor for Social Affairs, Mikkel Warming (Enhedslisten, left-wing socialist), who was Nicolai Sennels’ political superior"
This guy, Mikkel Warming (http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikkel_Warming), represents the same party that recently enlistet a known islamist in their ranks; Asmaa Abdol Hamid (http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmaa_Abdol-Hamid)thereby giving her a platform from where she could get access to the parliament. It was absolutely disgusting. Suddenly all the "religion-as-opium-for-the-people" stuff was gone. Now the exotic strangers really should be respected and allowed to fully express their sick views from the center of the danish democracy.
Besides; lately, he have been involved in one scandal after the other in connection with providing care for the elderly and disabled. He is a complete disaster and it is beyond my abillity to understand how he have been able to get to where he is now. Maybe he is on the Saudi payroll. Why not? Everything seems possible these days. These communists definitely likes many aspects of the muslim utopia. Shares the same wet dreams and all!
With a little bit of luck though, they will be gone after the next election. Since their little stunt with Asmaa, 50 % of their voters have left them, meaning that there is a great change they will loose their seats in the parliament. Only around 2 % of the voters now support them. And 2 % is the limit.
Robert --
I think those numbers are proportions against the mean. He represents the mean as 100, so that when the relative proportions of the two groups are 261 and 89, it means that the first is 2.61 times the mean, and the second is .89 times the mean.
The actual crime rate -- e.g. 200 per 100,000 population -- is not referred to, only the relative proportions.
That was what I understood him to mean, but I could be wrong.
Has there ever been a case of someone actually dying of being "offended"?Exactly what sort of scars does it leave?these effeminate queers, like the ones that we all have in our countries need a good kick up the arse.
Thanks, Baron. If JA could help further to eliminate any guesswork from his figures, it would be welcome.
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The Baron is absolutely right.
The numbers presented are an index with 100 being the entire population (the average). The numbers are based on approximately 89.000 males age 15 to 64 years who in 2002 were sentenced for at least one criminal offence.
Lets take the numbers for the physical assault penalties:
261 Non-western immigrants (NWI's)
089 Danes
Thus in 2002 161% more NWI's were being sentenced with a physical assault penalty than the average. Or in other words - NWI's are sentenced nearly 3 times (261/89) as often as Danes compared age to age.
These numbers are regarded as being rather precise as they have been published by the Danish national statistician Jan Plovsing.
NWI's are:
- refugees with no asylum
- refugees with asylum
- immigrants with "green card"
- descendants of the above
Danes are:
- a person with Danish citizenship
- a person with a parent with a Danish citizenship
In the period from 1999 to 2004 some 82.000 persons were granted a Danish citizenship.
In 2004 some newspapers made a research with the conclusion that non-Danes accounted for 8% of the entire population but accounted for 28% of the inmates in the state correction facilities.
Statistic tables
Smashing, Sobriquet DK. I'll put this now into my database and disseminate the information whenever possible.
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