Raymond Ibrahim is already known to most readers from his excellent scholarship and anti-jihad reporting, first at Jihad Watch, and then later at the Middle East Forum and other outlets.Mr. Ibrahim was recently invited to speak about Islam at Everett Community College in Washington State. The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) objected vigorously to his presence on campus, and lobbied to have the invitation withdrawn. The college authorities stood fast, however, and Mr. Ibrahim appeared as scheduled.
The TV news report below contains some examples of very unusual behavior, especially coming from an American academic institution.
First of all, a college administrator staunchly defended the importance of free speech, even unpopular speech by someone that Muslims consider “hateful”.
Secondly, the students listened to the speaker, instead of shouting him down. One of the students — the only one quoted on camera — even described his experience as positive and informative.
Thirdly, the TV viewer was able to hear quotations from the Koran, and even a brief definition of the word dhimmi — a very unusual occurrence in an MSM news outlet.
Finally, the only response by CAIR was a simple assertion that Mr. Ibrahim was “wrong” — no counter-quotations from the Quran or other refutations. This is quite telling.
None of this could ever have happened at Yale or Harvard. The difference must be that it was a community college, rather than a bloated corrupt politically correct university. Dymphna has often said that community colleges are the only public institutions in the USA where real education still occurs, and this incident is yet more evidence that she’s right.
It also tells us that we should aim our American Counterjihad efforts at community college audiences — at least in areas that are not excessively culturally enriched.
Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for YouTubing this clip. The news video and an accompanying article are below the jump:
From KOMO 4 TV:
Muslim Group: Community College Speaker Spreads Hate
EVERETT, Wash. - A controversial speaker at Everett Community College has sparked outrage among a Muslim civil rights organization who says the speaker spreads hate.
The Council on American Islamic Relations asked the college not to allow Raymond Ibrahim to speak. But the college didn’t budge.
Everett Community College invited Ibrahim, an author and blogger, to share his viewpoint on Islam even though some local Muslim leaders say he’s filled with hate.
Ibrahim denies it.
“I’m just a messenger, and I’m bringing it,” he says.
Ibrahim won’t say if he’s Muslim or not - only that he’s spreading the truth about Islam. The published author, born to Egyptian parents, says he wants Americans to understand the religion.
Quoting a verse he claims is from the Quran, Ibrahim says, “This verse is 3:28 and it says let believers - Muslims - not take infidels - non-Muslims - for friends and allies.”
Ibrahim says Muslims like Osama bin Laden and others believe they are carrying out Sharia law - the Islamic code of law - which says Muslims are obligated to convert non-Muslims by persuasion or violence.
“Because it’s divine. It cannot be changed if you’re a true believer. If God is telling you to live this way,” he says.
“Well, it’s the 21st century, and we have to make things a little more lax. If you’re a Muslim, you’re free to do that. But I find it not logically consistent.”
Not so, says the Council on American Islamic Relations, or CAIR. The civil rights group and dozens of local religious leaders asked the college to close the door on Ibrahim. They say he incites fear, hatred and violence against Muslims.
“Just as they would not bring a known anti-Semite to campus to speak about Judaism or Jews in America, they should not bring a known Islamophobe to talk about Islam in America,” says Arsalan Bukhar of CAIR.
But Everett Community College officials told KOMO News they won’t silence free speech, even if some feel that speech is filled with hate.
“We believe that when we have open dialogue, and students can hear different views on things, it can lead to the development of critical thinking,” says Craig Lewis of Everett Community College.
The college allowed local Muslims to speak to students around three months ago. They shared their viewpoint, and on Thursday, Ibrahim shared his.
Hat tip: Egghead.
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Will America's future leaders (not thinking about just the Commander-in-Chief here) come from community colleges? Or from the Ivy League? Methinks a Counterjihad presence at Harvard and Yale would also be useful (even if, initially, it would not be an easy experience).
I Googled the faculty of Everett Community College, and found a "round table" discussion held in 2009 on religions.
Sociology teacher Margaret Riordan (she teaches a course there on "Intro to World Religions" and considers herself an "Interfaith" person, whatever that is), said the following on the question of whether there is religious persecution at Everett Community College (a laughable question btw):
I wonder how the Muslim students feel about this question and I think it's easy if you're not marked as the other, to feel like you can have your own religious beliefs. But I know that there are a lot of students who have a lot of strong anti, you know who have Islam-a-phobia basically, and so I think persecution is probably too strong of a word maybe to identify what's going on but I think there would be some forms of discrimination and maybe disdain and fear…I think that students who are Pagan, students who identify as Wiccan, they experience religious disdain and fear and that there is a kind of a snickering attitude or some people who will see them as being devil worshipers and Satanists so I think that that's another religious tradition that experiences religious discrimination.
And she said this right after a student at the round table said:
...everyone seems to have a really open mind towards all other religions so I guess I would say if everybody at the school is generally like that then religious persecution I think is very small and minimal.
Meanwhile, history teacher Jason Ripper (who considers himself a "non believer") said this:
...A class that explored that [science and objective truth], I think, would benefit people in the same way that Christians and Muslims understanding each other's histories and faiths would benefit people. There is a lot of misunderstanding.
He also said that many Americans are "uninformed" and cited one example asthe fact that most Americans don't know that the largest Muslim country is Indonesia. And yet he believes it would "benefit people" if Chrisians and Muslims "understood" each other's religions. And it's a safe bet that what he means by "understanding" and "misunderstanding" in terms of Islam is not what we mean -- we who have actually examined the contents of the Koran, Tafsirs, Hadiths, and Siras, as well as the history of Muslims and the news about Muslims from all around the globe.
A special thanks to CAIR. Their whining about Raymond Ibrahim’s talk at Everett Community College drew media coverage. Luckily I heard about the talk in time to see it.
The talk by Mr. Ibrahim was nothing more than a presentation of the hard cold facts about Islam. It was good to see that there were many in the audience who were aware of the reality of Islam.
Of course the usual liberals, Muslim apologists and Muslims were there doing what they could to deny and obscure those facts. And as usual they never had one thing to say that contradicted Mr. Ibrahim.
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